Using an Icom R75 and a 400' Beverage on the Ground in the desert wash behind my house in NW Tucson, just last night I listened to LW Stations: Allouis, France on 162, Nador, Morocco on 171, Europe 1 in Felsberg, Germany on 183, BBC in Droitwich, England on 198, Radio MonteCarlo on 216, and Tipaza, Algeria on 251. With the same set up, I have been able to build an NDB logs of nearly 750 from this location.