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KG4RUL

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RE: D.H.S. and F.E.M.A.
« Reply #15 on: May 07, 2018, 06:25:46 AM »

That's fine however, try to find a recently built home (2000 to 2018) in a non HOA neighborhood today. I don't live in a HOA either. My current home was built in 1985. I've been looking at homes in neighborhoods which I can retire to. From my experience there are no new homes which have access to high sped internet, sewers, public water and gas as opposed to wells and oil tanks, and good hospitals and other amenities being built, which are not in HOA communities.
Again, more self-imposed requirements = fewer choices.
From your response, I can assume that you live in a place which has no internet service, you dispose of waste in a privy, you get your water from a stream, you heat with wood you chop down in the woods with an ax and you are your own emergency room doctor?
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WB2KSP

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« Reply #16 on: May 07, 2018, 07:34:59 AM »

That's fine however, try to find a recently built home (2000 to 2018) in a non HOA neighborhood today. I don't live in a HOA either. My current home was built in 1985. I've been looking at homes in neighborhoods which I can retire to. From my experience there are no new homes which have access to high sped internet, sewers, public water and gas as opposed to wells and oil tanks, and good hospitals and other amenities being built, which are not in HOA communities.
Again, more self-imposed requirements = fewer choices.
From your response, I can assume that you live in a place which has no internet service, you dispose of waste in a privy, you get your water from a stream, you heat with wood you chop down in the woods with an ax and you are your own emergency room doctor?


His answer only tells me that he can't find such a home. HOA free newly constructed homes do not exist in today's America. Please don't misunderstand me, Anyone with access to Google maps can see where I live. I've seen the homes of some of the naysayers in here. While my current home is about 30 years old, it is up to current spec and my neighbors keep there property up to condition which would satisfy any HOA, yet no one tells me that what I can and can not do with my property. I'm 62 years old, not 6 and don't need some nanny state to tell me what I can and can't do with my home.
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WA7PRC

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RE: D.H.S. and F.E.M.A.
« Reply #17 on: May 07, 2018, 12:58:58 PM »

That's fine however, try to find a recently built home (2000 to 2018) in a non HOA neighborhood today. I don't live in a HOA either. My current home was built in 1985. I've been looking at homes in neighborhoods which I can retire to. From my experience there are no new homes which have access to high sped internet, sewers, public water and gas as opposed to wells and oil tanks, and good hospitals and other amenities being built, which are not in HOA communities.
Again, more self-imposed requirements = fewer choices.
From your response, I can assume that you live in a place which has no internet service, you dispose of waste in a privy, you get your water from a stream, you heat with wood you chop down in the woods with an ax and you are your own emergency room doctor?
Much assumption.

His answer only tells me that he can't find such a home. HOA free newly constructed homes do not exist in today's America. Please don't misunderstand me, Anyone with access to Google maps can see where I live. I've seen the homes of some of the naysayers in here. While my current home is about 30 years old, it is up to current spec and my neighbors keep there property up to condition which would satisfy any HOA, yet no one tells me that what I can and can not do with my property. I'm 62 years old, not 6 and don't need some nanny state to tell me what I can and can't do with my home.
Much assumption.
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KG4RUL

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« Reply #18 on: May 07, 2018, 07:31:37 PM »

That's fine however, try to find a recently built home (2000 to 2018) in a non HOA neighborhood today. I don't live in a HOA either. My current home was built in 1985. I've been looking at homes in neighborhoods which I can retire to. From my experience there are no new homes which have access to high sped internet, sewers, public water and gas as opposed to wells and oil tanks, and good hospitals and other amenities being built, which are not in HOA communities.
Again, more self-imposed requirements = fewer choices.
From your response, I can assume that you live in a place which has no internet service, you dispose of waste in a privy, you get your water from a stream, you heat with wood you chop down in the woods with an ax and you are your own emergency room doctor?
Much assumption.

His answer only tells me that he can't find such a home. HOA free newly constructed homes do not exist in today's America. Please don't misunderstand me, Anyone with access to Google maps can see where I live. I've seen the homes of some of the naysayers in here. While my current home is about 30 years old, it is up to current spec and my neighbors keep there property up to condition which would satisfy any HOA, yet no one tells me that what I can and can not do with my property. I'm 62 years old, not 6 and don't need some nanny state to tell me what I can and can't do with my home.
Much assumption.
Well then, what was the thrust of your comments?  Are you criticizing others for their choices?  Perhaps you are just patting your self on the back for your wise choices?  Inquiring minds want to know!
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WA7PRC

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« Reply #19 on: May 07, 2018, 08:01:00 PM »

Well then, what was the thrust of your comments?  Are you criticizing others for their choices?
WB2KSP stated several features he requires. My comment was simply that, the more requirements someone chooses to have, the fewer choices that person has. David is clearly trying to justify his argument by attaching requirements.

My comment was then batted-down with innuendo, based on extreme assumption. It has oft been said, "when you run out of argument, substitute personal insult.". Even when the insults are awful, I avoid replying in-kind. I wonder what assumptions and comments about me would've been made, had I agreed.  Me thinks, because I would be singing the same hymn, none. ::)

Perhaps you are just patting your self on the back for your wise choices?
No... another assumption.
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AC2RY

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« Reply #20 on: May 08, 2018, 07:48:02 AM »

That's fine however, try to find a recently built home (2000 to 2018) in a non HOA neighborhood today. I don't live in a HOA either. My current home was built in 1985. I've been looking at homes in neighborhoods which I can retire to. From my experience there are no new homes which have access to high sped internet, sewers, public water and gas as opposed to wells and oil tanks, and good hospitals and other amenities being built, which are not in HOA communities.
Again, more self-imposed requirements = fewer choices.
From your response, I can assume that you live in a place which has no internet service, you dispose of waste in a privy, you get your water from a stream, you heat with wood you chop down in the woods with an ax and you are your own emergency room doctor?


His answer only tells me that he can't find such a home. HOA free newly constructed homes do not exist in today's America. Please don't misunderstand me, Anyone with access to Google maps can see where I live. I've seen the homes of some of the naysayers in here. While my current home is about 30 years old, it is up to current spec and my neighbors keep there property up to condition which would satisfy any HOA, yet no one tells me that what I can and can not do with my property. I'm 62 years old, not 6 and don't need some nanny state to tell me what I can and can't do with my home.

When I was looking for a new house without HOA, I found ONE that was within reasonable commute (30 minutes) from work and in area with schools rated 8 and above (a must for my kid). Price was $600K. And you know what - I didn't buy it - it had a foundation problem. Thus now again I have to live with HOA and instead of having beam on top of the tower I hide my humble  wire dipole in trees.


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W1BR

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RE: D.H.S. and F.E.M.A.
« Reply #21 on: May 09, 2018, 01:10:40 PM »

That's fine however, try to find a recently built home (2000 to 2018) in a non HOA neighborhood today. I don't live in a HOA either. My current home was built in 1985. I've been looking at homes in neighborhoods which I can retire to. From my experience there are no new homes which have access to high sped internet, sewers, public water and gas as opposed to wells and oil tanks, and good hospitals and other amenities being built, which are not in HOA communities.
Again, more self-imposed requirements = fewer choices.
From your response, I can assume that you live in a place which has no internet service, you dispose of waste in a privy, you get your water from a stream, you heat with wood you chop down in the woods with an ax and you are your own emergency room doctor?


His answer only tells me that he can't find such a home. HOA free newly constructed homes do not exist in today's America. Please don't misunderstand me, Anyone with access to Google maps can see where I live. I've seen the homes of some of the naysayers in here. While my current home is about 30 years old, it is up to current spec and my neighbors keep there property up to condition which would satisfy any HOA, yet no one tells me that what I can and can not do with my property. I'm 62 years old, not 6 and don't need some nanny state to tell me what I can and can't do with my home.

When I was looking for a new house without HOA, I found ONE that was within reasonable commute (30 minutes) from work and in area with schools rated 8 and above (a must for my kid). Price was $600K. And you know what - I didn't buy it - it had a foundation problem. Thus now again I have to live with HOA and instead of having beam on top of the tower I hide my humble  wire dipole in trees.


We have people in this state who are being assessed major bucks by their condo associations to remedy bad concrete foundations in other units.  Eastern CT had a bad run of improperly mixed concrete which affected many homeowners.  New foundation is over 100K.   
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KC2QYM

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« Reply #22 on: May 10, 2018, 11:47:46 AM »

Should DHS and FEMA declare an emergency because of bad concrete in HOAs thus allowing antenna variances by chit chat hams?

Really?

Again, looking for the relevance of how the topic started to where it ends up...can you guys keep the train on the tracks?
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ONAIR

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« Reply #23 on: May 12, 2018, 04:33:06 PM »

That's fine however, try to find a recently built home (2000 to 2018) in a non HOA neighborhood today. I don't live in a HOA either. My current home was built in 1985. I've been looking at homes in neighborhoods which I can retire to. From my experience there are no new homes which have access to high sped internet, sewers, public water and gas as opposed to wells and oil tanks, and good hospitals and other amenities being built, which are not in HOA communities.
Again, more self-imposed requirements = fewer choices.
From your response, I can assume that you live in a place which has no internet service, you dispose of waste in a privy, you get your water from a stream, you heat with wood you chop down in the woods with an ax and you are your own emergency room doctor?


His answer only tells me that he can't find such a home. HOA free newly constructed homes do not exist in today's America. Please don't misunderstand me, Anyone with access to Google maps can see where I live. I've seen the homes of some of the naysayers in here. While my current home is about 30 years old, it is up to current spec and my neighbors keep there property up to condition which would satisfy any HOA, yet no one tells me that what I can and can not do with my property. I'm 62 years old, not 6 and don't need some nanny state to tell me what I can and can't do with my home.

When I was looking for a new house without HOA, I found ONE that was within reasonable commute (30 minutes) from work and in area with schools rated 8 and above (a must for my kid). Price was $600K. And you know what - I didn't buy it - it had a foundation problem. Thus now again I have to live with HOA and instead of having beam on top of the tower I hide my humble  wire dipole in trees.



   For $600K you might have been able to buy property and build a home on it!
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W6EM

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« Reply #24 on: May 12, 2018, 07:47:15 PM »

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Has the ARRL contacted the D.H.S. or F.E.M.A.?  I would think they would be interested in a fully-functional Emergency Communication Network. They can over-ride the CCR’s like they did with Dish TV and TV antennas.

DHS? FEMA is part of DHS, as are the Coast Guard, Customs, Boarder Patrol, etc.  I'm sure that they have all of the "ECN" assets they need.  Especially, FEMA, with their satellite trucks.  Who needs a bunch of OF's with traffic vests and HTs?

You must not be a QST reader.  I can recall at least a half dozen ARRL photo ops with Craig Fugate while he was FEMA Administrator.

And besides, CC&Rs won't impede that sort of activity.  Actually, CC&Rs where we used to live prohibited eyesores like public-safety-surplus whacker-mobile Crown Vics being parked in driveways, so not all bad.
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AC2RY

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« Reply #25 on: May 12, 2018, 10:03:33 PM »

 For $600K you might have been able to buy property and build a home on it!

Ready for building lots are even harder to come by.  Otherwise cost of connecting water, sewer, electricity, Internet becomes prohibitively high.
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AA2UK

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« Reply #26 on: May 13, 2018, 06:02:52 AM »

Looks like it's still alive.....
From the ARRL a few days ago...
SB QST @ ARL $ARLB011
ARLB011 Amateur Radio Parity Act Language Inserted in National
Defense Authorization Act

ZCZC AG11
QST de W1AW 
ARRL Bulletin 11  ARLB011
From ARRL Headquarters 
Newington CT  May 11, 2018
To all radio amateurs

SB QST ARL ARLB011
ARLB011 Amateur Radio Parity Act Language Inserted in National
Defense Authorization Act

ARRL is praising the work of US Representatives Joe Courtney (D-CT),
Vicky Hartzler (R-MO), and Mike Rogers (R-AL) for their successful
efforts in securing language in the National Defense Authorization
Act (NDAA) for Fiscal Year 2019 that aids in the survival and growth
of Amateur Radio by giving radio amateurs the right to install an
outdoor antenna at their residences with the approval of their
homeowners associations. This language - text from the proposed
Amateur Radio Parity Act (HR 555) - formed the basis for the
Courtney-Hartzler-Rogers Amendment to the NDAA.

The amendment, offered by the bipartisan trio and accepted by the
House Armed Services Committee by voice vote, will ensure that
Amateur Radio operators will continue to play a vital role in
disaster communication, when called upon. Amateur Radio has
long-standing relationships with the Department of Defense through
both the Military Auxiliary Radio Service (MARS) as well as spectrum
sharing.

The Armed Services Committee passed the NDAA by a 60-to-1 voice vote
after a 14-hour markup that ran well into the night. The bill now
awaits House floor action. The Senate will begin its markup of the
NDAA during the week of May 21.

Representatives Courtney and Adam Kinzinger (R-IL) spearheaded the
effort to include the Parity Act language in the NDAA. Both are
cosponsors of the Parity Act, which has passed the House by voice
vote twice in the past 2 years.

Recognizing the long-standing relationship between Amateur Radio and
the Department of Defense, Congressman Kinzinger - who served
multiple tours for the USAF as a fighter pilot and is still a Major
in the Air National Guard, and Courtney, who represents the House
district that includes ARRL Headquarters, have been champions of the
legislation in Congress.

"The steadfast support of the Amateur Radio community continually
demonstrated by Congressmen Kinzinger and Courtney has been a
godsend," said Hudson Director Mike Lisenco, N2YBB. "The Parity Act
wouldn't be anywhere close to this stage without their strong
support, and our organization is extremely grateful."

Lisenco, who serves as Chairman of the ARRL Board's Legislative
Advocacy Committee, also recognized other promoters of Amateur
Radio, including House Energy and Commerce Committee Chairman Greg
Walden, W7EQI (R-OR), Energy and Commerce Ranking Member Frank
Pallone (D-NJ), and House Armed Services Committee Chairman Mac
Thornberry (R-TX). "We are deeply grateful for their continued
understanding and support," Lisenco said.

ARRL will continue to press for support to enact the Amateur Radio
Parity Act throughout the legislative process.
NNNN
/EX
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W6EM

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« Reply #27 on: May 13, 2018, 04:48:14 PM »

 For $600K you might have been able to buy property and build a home on it!

Ready for building lots are even harder to come by.  Otherwise cost of connecting water, sewer, electricity, Internet becomes prohibitively high.

It depends largely on where you want to build.  For example, I own two 1/4 acre lots in Ocala, FL, that have no covenants in the Silver Springs Shores subdivision.  And, very inexpensive.  City water isn't too far away, but costly to connect.  Wells are the norm.  If anyone's interested, email me. 
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AC2RY

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« Reply #28 on: May 13, 2018, 08:03:33 PM »

 For $600K you might have been able to buy property and build a home on it!

Ready for building lots are even harder to come by.  Otherwise cost of connecting water, sewer, electricity, Internet becomes prohibitively high.

It depends largely on where you want to build.  For example, I own two 1/4 acre lots in Ocala, FL, that have no covenants in the Silver Springs Shores subdivision.  And, very inexpensive.  City water isn't too far away, but costly to connect.  Wells are the norm.  If anyone's interested, email me. 

It would be rather stupid idea to raise a tower on 1/4 acre lot.
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WA7PRC

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« Reply #29 on: May 13, 2018, 08:08:02 PM »

It would be rather stupid idea to raise a tower on 1/4 acre lot.
It's done all the time, and signed-off by licensed structural engineers.
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