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K1VSK

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RE: Ham Antennas - A profit Threat???
« Reply #30 on: July 31, 2018, 02:47:54 PM »



Could I have an address so that I can see what the home and neighborhood) actually looks like?

It's in Bradenton, about 700 feet from the Sarasota line, so it technically doesn't fit your desire to live in. Sarasota. It was intended only to demonstrate one example of available homes.

As Arnold said, "I'll be back"


Nevertheless I'd like an address so that I can see the example you presented.
i asked him it that was okay and he doesn't want to be involved in this discussion in any way. Suffice it to say such homes are readily available.
All of this begs the question why you don't do your own due diligence before making unfounded claims if you really are in the market for a home here.
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K7JQ

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RE: Ham Antennas - A profit Threat???
« Reply #31 on: July 31, 2018, 05:07:58 PM »



Could I have an address so that I can see what the home and neighborhood) actually looks like?

It's in Bradenton, about 700 feet from the Sarasota line, so it technically doesn't fit your desire to live in. Sarasota. It was intended only to demonstrate one example of available homes.

As Arnold said, "I'll be back"


Nevertheless I'd like an address so that I can see the example you presented.
i asked him it that was okay and he doesn't want to be involved in this discussion in any way. Suffice it to say such homes are readily available.
All of this begs the question why you don't do your own due diligence before making unfounded claims if you really are in the market for a home here.

I imagine that the home is not in the Multiple Listing Service, otherwise what's the big deal in not providing the address?
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WB2KSP

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RE: Ham Antennas - A profit Threat???
« Reply #32 on: July 31, 2018, 05:53:27 PM »



Could I have an address so that I can see what the home and neighborhood) actually looks like?

It's in Bradenton, about 700 feet from the Sarasota line, so it technically doesn't fit your desire to live in. Sarasota. It was intended only to demonstrate one example of available homes.

As Arnold said, "I'll be back"


Nevertheless I'd like an address so that I can see the example you presented.
i asked him it that was okay and he doesn't want to be involved in this discussion in any way. Suffice it to say such homes are readily available.
All of this begs the question why you don't do your own due diligence before making unfounded claims if you really are in the market for a home here.

I've already told you that my attempts to hunt down a viable home in that part of the country have been fruitless. That isn't to say that there are no homes in Florida without covenants or HOA's. Its just that I haven't been able to find one in my price range which I find acceptable. I am not a single male and so my wife has to be included in the final decision. She would just as soon live in a condo but that wouldn't work for my ham radio hobby so, she is flexible, knowing how important the hobby is to me. Problem is, it isn't just Florida with these issues. New neighborhoods in Delaware are also under HOA control. That's one of my major problems with Sen. Nelson. He's obviously bought and paid for by his states real estate developers (his arguments against ham radio seem almost to come from the typewriter of his republican colleagues in the Senate). It bothers me that his intransigence effects the real estate market of the entire country. I didn't vote for his as my rep, nor would I considering his stance on certain topics and yet I and other fellow citizens suffer due to this one individual. Getting back to the subject at hand. In that I have been unsuccessful in my search and you have stated that finding the right home in a non HOA controlled neighborhood is such a breeze, I ask that you provide not only examples but photos and addresses of each home so that I can see, not only the house in question but,  the neighborhood as well. Hey, you never know. Perhaps you'll succeed and in turn find a new career for yourself as well.
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K7JQ

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« Reply #33 on: July 31, 2018, 06:49:48 PM »

I don't think "he'll be back" ;D. I believe he took that breeze and is sailing the Caribbean in his yacht ::).
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K1VSK

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RE: Ham Antennas - A profit Threat???
« Reply #34 on: August 01, 2018, 10:46:09 AM »



Could I have an address so that I can see what the home and neighborhood) actually looks like?

It's in Bradenton, about 700 feet from the Sarasota line, so it technically doesn't fit your desire to live in. Sarasota. It was intended only to demonstrate one example of available homes.

As Arnold said, "I'll be back"


Nevertheless I'd like an address so that I can see the example you presented.
i asked him it that was okay and he doesn't want to be involved in this discussion in any way. Suffice it to say such homes are readily available.
All of this begs the question why you don't do your own due diligence before making unfounded claims if you really are in the market for a home here.

I've already told you that my attempts to hunt down a viable home in that part of the country have been fruitless. That isn't to say that there are no homes in Florida without covenants or HOA's. Its just that I haven't been able to find one in my price range which I find acceptable. I am not a single male and so my wife has to be included in the final decision. She would just as soon live in a condo but that wouldn't work for my ham radio hobby so, she is flexible, knowing how important the hobby is to me. Problem is, it isn't just Florida with these issues. New neighborhoods in Delaware are also under HOA control. That's one of my major problems with Sen. Nelson. He's obviously bought and paid for by his states real estate developers (his arguments against ham radio seem almost to come from the typewriter of his republican colleagues in the Senate). It bothers me that his intransigence effects the real estate market of the entire country. I didn't vote for his as my rep, nor would I considering his stance on certain topics and yet I and other fellow citizens suffer due to this one individual. Getting back to the subject at hand. In that I have been unsuccessful in my search and you have stated that finding the right home in a non HOA controlled neighborhood is such a breeze, I ask that you provide not only examples but photos and addresses of each home so that I can see, not only the house in question but,  the neighborhood as well. Hey, you never know. Perhaps you'll succeed and in turn find a new career for yourself as well.
what you originally said and subsequently repeated frequently is that there are no homes available to you which aren't in an HOA.

Now, the tune is " that's not to say there are no homes...".

I'll take that as an acknowledgment there are but you simply didn't look enough to find them. And having said that, it really isn't my job to find you one. All I intend d here is for you to admit there are options.
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RE: Ham Antennas - A profit Threat???
« Reply #35 on: August 01, 2018, 11:08:58 AM »

what you originally said and subsequently repeated frequently is that there are no homes available to you which aren't in an HOA.

Now, the tune is " that's not to say there are no homes...".

I'll take that as an acknowledgment there are but you simply didn't look enough to find them. And having said that, it really isn't my job to find you one. All I intend d here is for you to admit there are options.
More requirements = fewer choices. In other words...

"You can't always get what you want...
But, if you try real hard,
you get what you neeeeed!
Oh baybeee..."

-Mick Jagger  ;)
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« Reply #36 on: August 01, 2018, 11:55:29 AM »

On the other hand cable TV has been a great in terms of dramatically reducing TVI complaints.
  Good point, but satellite TV antennas can sometimes present problems!
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WB2KSP

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RE: Ham Antennas - A profit Threat???
« Reply #37 on: August 01, 2018, 02:37:40 PM »



Could I have an address so that I can see what the home and neighborhood) actually looks like?

It's in Bradenton, about 700 feet from the Sarasota line, so it technically doesn't fit your desire to live in. Sarasota. It was intended only to demonstrate one example of available homes.

As Arnold said, "I'll be back"


Nevertheless I'd like an address so that I can see the example you presented.
i asked him it that was okay and he doesn't want to be involved in this discussion in any way. Suffice it to say such homes are readily available.
All of this begs the question why you don't do your own due diligence before making unfounded claims if you really are in the market for a home here.

I've already told you that my attempts to hunt down a viable home in that part of the country have been fruitless. That isn't to say that there are no homes in Florida without covenants or HOA's. Its just that I haven't been able to find one in my price range which I find acceptable. I am not a single male and so my wife has to be included in the final decision. She would just as soon live in a condo but that wouldn't work for my ham radio hobby so, she is flexible, knowing how important the hobby is to me. Problem is, it isn't just Florida with these issues. New neighborhoods in Delaware are also under HOA control. That's one of my major problems with Sen. Nelson. He's obviously bought and paid for by his states real estate developers (his arguments against ham radio seem almost to come from the typewriter of his republican colleagues in the Senate). It bothers me that his intransigence effects the real estate market of the entire country. I didn't vote for his as my rep, nor would I considering his stance on certain topics and yet I and other fellow citizens suffer due to this one individual. Getting back to the subject at hand. In that I have been unsuccessful in my search and you have stated that finding the right home in a non HOA controlled neighborhood is such a breeze, I ask that you provide not only examples but photos and addresses of each home so that I can see, not only the house in question but,  the neighborhood as well. Hey, you never know. Perhaps you'll succeed and in turn find a new career for yourself as well.
what you originally said and subsequently repeated frequently is that there are no homes available to you which aren't in an HOA.

Now, the tune is " that's not to say there are no homes...".

I'll take that as an acknowledgment there are but you simply didn't look enough to find them. And having said that, it really isn't my job to find you one. All I intend d here is for you to admit there are options.

Yours is a poor excuse for not answering my original post. I had said that realtors had shown us a non HOA property in fairly run down neighborhoods. It would have been a step below the neighborhood of my last home (which was a home built in 1953 and our first house). It was what one would call a blue color neighborhood of lower middle class (or upper lower class) residents. Not a place I'd wish to spend my retirement. If you misunderstood what I was looking for then all I can say to that is, now you know. Others who took a similar stance to mine seem to understand what I was looking for. With that now in mind, maybe you can find a suitable dwelling for us.
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K1VSK

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RE: Ham Antennas - A profit Threat???
« Reply #38 on: August 01, 2018, 05:14:01 PM »

. I had said that realtors had shown us a non HOA property in fairly run down neighborhoods.
And from that, you made the unfounded blanket generalization that there are no non-HOA properties from which to choose. The only unanswered question is why you can't admit you misspoke.

This is a waste of time as you clearly cannot.
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« Reply #39 on: August 01, 2018, 05:35:26 PM »

Blah, blah, blah. Get a life.
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WB2KSP

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« Reply #40 on: August 01, 2018, 05:57:22 PM »

So, I made the mistake? OK I made the mistake. Now grow up and respond to my latest comment concerning my requirements for a retirement home. Don't have an answer? That's fine as well. I just looked up your qth on Google maps. Are you allowed to install an external antenna (roof mounted beam and vertical in the back yard) at your QTH? Don't know if I want to live in your part of the state but that looks like the type of home I could move into. Have you been able to find those type of homes (preferably on the gulf coast near Tampa/Carolwood) that allow homeowners to use their property to enjoy a (federally) legal en devour. If not, let me state that I am not interested in sailing nor do I want to have to sail in order to make use of my Extra class license. I state my license class because I worked hard for that ticket and I took the 20 WPM CW test at the FCC office on Varick street in Manhattan.
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K1VSK

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« Reply #41 on: August 02, 2018, 07:32:19 AM »

Blah, blah, blah. Get a life.


That 'eloquent' comment applies most to anyone who's life revolves around an obtrusive antenna.
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WB2KSP

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« Reply #42 on: August 02, 2018, 10:39:13 AM »

Blah, blah, blah. Get a life.


That 'eloquent' comment applies most to anyone who's life revolves around an obtrusive antenna.


Nice reply, how about answering my question?
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K1VSK

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« Reply #43 on: August 02, 2018, 01:53:29 PM »

Blah, blah, blah. Get a life.


That 'eloquent' comment applies most to anyone who's life revolves around an obtrusive antenna.
I did. Why pretend i didn't or that homes clearly exist!

Nice reply, how about answering my question?
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WB2KSP

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« Reply #44 on: August 02, 2018, 02:20:13 PM »

Blah, blah, blah. Get a life.


That 'eloquent' comment applies most to anyone who's life revolves around an obtrusive antenna.
I did. Why pretend i didn't or that homes clearly exist!

Nice reply, how about answering my question?


Home which meet my criteria do not exist. That is my point. I could move to a section of town where poverty exists and crime is high and purchase a home to put up an antenna. Why don't I do that? Take a guess. I specifically asked you if you are allowed to put up an antenna in your neighborhood and you failed to address that question. You don't think much of one of the major aspects of this hobby which leads me to ask, why are you a ham op? If you weren't, I would understand the position you've taken. If you think antennas are SO ugly that they mustn't be seen by the average home owner I have to conclude that something is wrong here. Why not turn in your license and hang out on Skype or some other internet chat app. If you are so selfish that you feel that you are getting what you want out of the hobby and everyone else be damned then I conclude that yours is a sad view of life. We don't live in a culture of I, Me, Mine (Thank you George Harrison). You needn't concern yourself. We will never be neighbors nor with that attitude, friends.
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