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STUPID MISTAKE ..Wrong button pushed on radio
« on: April 21, 2019, 10:23:20 AM »

I recently have been having issues with my palstar at2k tuner it would not tune in 40 meters when it was working flawlessly before... I had this problem for about 3 weeks I could not figure it out. I went to the antenna forum on eham and posted the problem and got all kind of great advice nothing worked.. By the way Eham is the GREATEST  HAM SITE IN THE WORLD BAR NONE MAYBEE THE UNIVERSE. On every other band radio{ICOM 7300} worked fine which led me to believe all jumpers were working fine.. And this was happening on two different antennas I had same problem only on 40 meters.. This morning I went out to shack and a cup of coffee and was trying to figure out problem and I noticed on 40 meter screen on my Icom 7300 the tune readout was on in the left hand corner and not on any other screen. I had a brain fart at that moment to push tuner button to make it disappear on 40 meter screen when i did this. PROBLEM FIXED.. I GET THE STUPID AWARD...  DUHHHHH. The tuner button on Icom 7300 is not a physical button like older radios affecting all bands. Anyway it makes you think sometimes it is the simple things that are the problems. How many guys out here have done this had the wrong button pushed and you spend all this time and money trying to fix issue when all along it was the wrong button pushed . I can not be the only one this has happened to.. I STILL GET THE STUPID AWARD FOR THE MONTH. Everyone take care care and be safe and enjoy the hobby...73ss
P.S. When i pushed the tuner button and it fixed problem I was so HAPPY.

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RE: STUPID MISTAKE ..Wrong button pushed on radio
« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2019, 10:49:45 AM »

Congratulations! You've found the big drawback that goes with touch screens, menus and so on. The old HP 8568A spectrum analyser had a load of discrete buttons in two big heavy boxes, but you didn't have to remember where in the blasted menus the function you wanted was........

OK, so I'm a Luddite. There are times when the older methods work best. One example was the space qualified integrated circuits that we made for NASA. Test data was to be kept for 25 years - and it was. On 12 inch discs........and I don't mean vinyl music phonograph records. Even NASA couldn't read them - they had to pay some US firm who had the equipment a vast sum to get them re-formatted.....

There is some truth in the assertions that if pencil and paper had just been invented, it would be the miracle new data storage system. Hieroglyphs chiselled in stone can be translated over 2000 years later...The Dead Sea Scrolls  survived and could be translated. Good job they weren't on an electronic/magnetic medium....
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RE: STUPID MISTAKE ..Wrong button pushed on radio
« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2019, 11:15:32 AM »

I have an antenna tuner button on my 7330, just under the transmit button. Hm...
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« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2019, 04:32:29 PM »

There is some truth in the assertions that if pencil and paper had just been invented, it would be the miracle new data storage system.

I carry a pen and small pad of paper with me at all times. Absolutely wonderful. No learning curve. Permanent memory. I can write or draw. Never run out of charge.

I run into people who "write" on their "smart"phone. Heh--that can be a lengthy adventure to jot down a few notes. Then they send it to their wireless printer to make a hard copy. I know how many installers it took some tens of hours to get the "smart"phone to "talk" to the printer.

We certainly live in an age of miracles. I would say it's a miracle to call a phone "smart" and ignore the (potential) intelligence of the person with the phone. I am, seemingly, a rara avis.
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« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2019, 04:34:23 PM »

I have an antenna tuner button on my 7330, just under the transmit button. Hm...

They say that as the products of civilization progress in ability, the level of human stupidity grows.
This maintain a necessary balance.
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RE: STUPID MISTAKE ..Wrong button pushed on radio
« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2019, 05:07:08 PM »

OK, so I'm a Luddite. There are times when the older methods work best. One example was the space qualified integrated circuits that we made for NASA. Test data was to be kept for 25 years - and it was. On 12 inch discs........and I don't mean vinyl music phonograph records. Even NASA couldn't read them - they had to pay some US firm who had the equipment a vast sum to get them re-formatted.....

[story]Many years ago, my company made a radar processor, for a country that will remain nameless. The program for developing this processor happened while I was living in Germany for a few years. I never even knew the program existed. But, apparently, the country did not want to fix the circuit boards in the system. They only wanted to replace the ones that broke. So about 20 years after the initial program, they wanted to purchase replacement boards.

Well, after 20 years, there was only one person left, that originally worked on the program, and most of the ICs were obsolete and difficult to find. Well the purchasing people pulled off a miracle and found all of the parts. But now, they had the new boards made, but there was a ATP (Acceptance Test Procedure) that all the boards needed to pass. The ATP was run on a custom computer (Sun 3E) with multiple specialized test boxes. My job was to recreate the whole test system.

I managed to find the original computer, with a custom built interface. After a lot of searching, found the original software on several spools of 9-track tape. Then I had to guess as to how the system was put together. It took a lot of work, but I managed to put the whole system back together. The company made a bundle of money on that project. Pretty much, the whole program was nothing but profit. The program manager received lots of accolades from upper management. They barely gave me any notice at all. It seems that resurrecting a 20 year old program was my job.

But about 5 years later, they came back, with their hats in their hands, and asked me to put the computer system back together again. It seems that they had another pure profit contract. But, no one had the foresight to store the important components of the computer system. It wasn't my job to archive everything. Once the project was over, I couldn't charge my time any more. So when I went to find the all important computer, I found out that they had thrown it out. So I had to inform them that they couldn't fulfill the contract without the computer. Of course, now, I was the bad guy. They had to go back to the country and tell them they needed to buy a new radar processor.[/story]
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KC8KTN

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RE: STUPID MISTAKE ..Wrong button pushed on radio
« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2019, 09:04:41 PM »

How many of  us had the weing button pushed all along really.  Take care all. 73s
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« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2019, 07:51:00 AM »

Both of my 7300's have a physical tuner button.  The tuner icon on the touchscreen is just a display icon not a control activated by touch.

I like my touchscreens.  :)   
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RE: STUPID MISTAKE ..Wrong button pushed on radio
« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2019, 08:08:48 AM »

How many of  us had the weing button pushed all along really.  

Never push the weing button!   :)
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RE: STUPID MISTAKE ..Wrong button pushed on radio
« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2019, 03:28:19 PM »

The smarter a radio is,

the dumber it can make an operator look!

The new breed of radio remembers settings by band, so when you switch bands, settings may change.
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RE: STUPID MISTAKE ..Wrong button pushed on radio
« Reply #10 on: April 22, 2019, 04:44:07 PM »

I want a radio that does what I tell it to do, Not what it thinks I should want it to do!

Older radios, especially with tubes, meet that requirement....

And if I don't live really out in the wilds of somewhere like New Mexico, Arizona, Utah, Nevada or Colorado, the EMC crap from the neighbours is going to limit me anyway....
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RE: STUPID MISTAKE ..Wrong button pushed on radio
« Reply #11 on: April 22, 2019, 04:51:40 PM »

Buy or make a "tuner plug"
When plugged in radio thinks it has a icom external tuner plugged in.
This disables the internal tuner.
When you push the tune button the radio will transmit a 10 cw carrier.
A must have for icom radios.
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RE: STUPID MISTAKE ..Wrong button pushed on radio
« Reply #12 on: April 22, 2019, 05:04:12 PM »

I want a radio that does what I tell it to do, Not what it thinks I should want it to do!

It does.

The tuner isn't activated, nor turned on or off per band, unless the operator pushes the button to turn it on or off per band, or holds it in to force a tune. It even displays what YOU - the operator - told it to do the last time.

I simply do not know what you are complaining about ...  :-\
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RE: STUPID MISTAKE ..Wrong button pushed on radio
« Reply #13 on: April 22, 2019, 05:28:29 PM »

I want a radio that does what I tell it to do, Not what it thinks I should want it to do!

Older radios, especially with tubes, meet that requirement....

I found I could turn off the very annoying and time-consuming automatic spelling on my "smart" (=stupid) phone. It took some research to discover how to do this. Since I don't keep a phone with me in my back pocket, I seem to not to suffer from too many "butt dialings" but I do not infrequently get calls from others who have "butt dialed" my number.

Soon, I expect, the turn-off features will be eliminated from our "smart" (=stupid) devices. Big tech will be telling us
what to text and will always know exactly where we are.

I resent the memory features of my rig which recalls the settings from my last venture on each band. I prefer to start
each operating session afresh and to forget all the horrors of my last radio venture.

Besides, turning knobs getting ready to operate is part of the adventure. Like setting up the spaceship for warp speed.

I use an antenna tuner. Manual. Three knobs. The controls are a little stiff. They keep my forearms looking like Popeye's.

When everything is automatic, there will be no jobs. No need for humans at all. Then we can leave for Mars where there is no EMI. Yet.
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RE: STUPID MISTAKE ..Wrong button pushed on radio
« Reply #14 on: April 22, 2019, 06:45:00 PM »

To correct earlier post no weing button I meant to put wrong button. I guess the stupid Award is still going strong for me. Everyone please be safe and Enjoy the correct buttons on your radio.... 73s

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