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KC9QBY

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RE: HOA Antennas: An approach I used - Approval Earned
« Reply #15 on: June 04, 2019, 06:24:43 PM »

Responding to question about what antennas approved:
Antenna options include long wire: EF, OCF, center fed all possible. The one that fits (yep, I know its not optimal) is Ultimax 100; decent reviews on Eham, so I'll give it a shot.

Vertical antenna options are of Hustler BTV, Mosley RV-6A, or any flagpole variety, height not to exceed roof-line.  No objection to ground radials. "Uglier" options like Butternut ran afoul HOA.

Based on house configuration and how it would have been installed, HOA objected to something like Inverted-Vee installed DX-EE.

Long wire or vertical antennas must be installed in rear of home.  I feel like I can make this work and plenty to explore.

DS-150S antenna (VHF/scan) installed in attic above garage. Not external antenna, thus not subject to HOA approval.

HOA/CC&R pretty prevalent in our area. We stated we were seeking "reasonable accommodation" abiding HOA covenants understanding it was necessary approach for approval.  We were ready with ARRL article cited earlier, and had studied HOA applicability of FCC PRB-1 documents and decisions on their website.  We never got that far and did not need them in earning approval.

Other comments: We too have had mixed if not bad experience with HOA, particularly when zealots or even ordinary stakeholders have an agenda. This obviously gets messy and tough, making the expected righteous indignation claims (does not add value to discussion) and denial a foreseeable outcome.  We documented decision and HOA agreed via sign-off on plans and summary memo.

In our case, HOA was part of the overall QTH project, otherwise not viable.

I recall a story about a local guy who built a very nice house near an already present small rail yard (not in an HOA), and he complained passionately about the noise from the railyard.  Turns out they decided knowingly to build rail yard adjacent.  House vacated, long unsold, later demolished. There it is!

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Chuck

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K1VSK

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RE: HOA Antennas: An approach I used - Approval Earned
« Reply #16 on: June 05, 2019, 02:38:40 PM »



The PROBLEMS with HOAs outnumber the approvals.


Here we have yet another wild and unfounded claim destined for the trash heap in which it belongs.

Never has there been any objective assessment quantifying this. A very cursory poll conducted on another ham forum clearly indicated the majority of HOA resident hams have no problems further evidence by the almost complete silence by affected and unhappy HOA residents.

It seems clear only one conclusion is valid - some people seem eager to show how little they know.



And still no evidence of the “outnumber” claim.  As though any doubt existed.
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K7JQ

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RE: HOA Antennas: An approach I used - Approval Earned
« Reply #17 on: June 05, 2019, 03:26:19 PM »

Now here's a guy initiating a legitimate post about a favorable outcome dealing with CC&R antenna restrictions, and along comes W8LV and N0YXB replying with completely unrelated Debbie Downer remarks just to stir up more controversy. What a shame.

KC9QBY should be congratulated on his diligent efforts to gain approval from the HOA! The antennas approved, IMO, are good enough "reasonable accommodation" to get him on the air with outdoor configurations that he feels confident to work with. A step in the right direction.

We don't need negative remarks on this thread. Distractors should go elsewhere.

73,  Bob K7JQ 
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K1VSK

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RE: HOA Antennas: An approach I used - Approval Earned
« Reply #18 on: June 05, 2019, 03:44:55 PM »

Now here's a guy initiating a legitimate post about a favorable outcome dealing with CC&R antenna restrictions, and along comes W8LV and N0YXB replying with completely unrelated Debbie Downer remarks just to stir up more controversy. What a shame.

KC9QBY should be congratulated on his diligent efforts to gain approval from the HOA! The antennas approved, IMO, are good enough "reasonable accommodation" to get him on the air with outdoor configurations that he feels confident to work with. A step in the right direction.

We don't need negative remarks on this thread. Distractors should go elsewhere.

73,  Bob K7JQ 
they don’t like success stories. This being just one of many people who don’t bother describing as  it isn’t divisive and it spoils the delusion. Those of us living in HOAs already know doing what you want within reason is a function of mutual respect, apparently a not well-understood concept by a few here. You can easily see that by the nature and tone of their comments.
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W8LV

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RE: HOA Antennas: An approach I used - Approval Earned
« Reply #19 on: June 05, 2019, 05:46:30 PM »

Debbie Downer?   :D

Not at all!

All the Best to the op who got his antenna approved!

Apparently though, SOME of you "missed" this part of his Journey:

"We too have had mixed if not bad experience with HOA, particularly when zealots or even ordinary stakeholders have an agenda."

Legislation will stop those kind of negative HOA experiences.
Completely.

At the VSK QTH in HOT (HOA Occupied Territory) in the Land of Fla, we still don't know what kind of antenna setup he has there to achieve the QSO success he does. So I guess he's not up to recommendations for others who face or may face living in an HOA in the Future.

Why not when He is in a position to Elmer/mentor people with this information?

Can't Say.... Don't know.

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KC9QBY

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RE: HOA Antennas: An approach I used - Approval Earned
« Reply #20 on: June 05, 2019, 08:18:50 PM »

Without intent to tangle or debate, I recall a career (mine) with regularly observed colleagues faced with challenges that came to me without even a thought about a solution.  The solution is to go forth and find one.  I feel like we did.

What I did intend was that the model proposed be considered on its merit which was in my case (immodestly declared) success.

Thanks for all the observations.

73,

Chuck
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W8LV

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RE: HOA Antennas: An approach I used - Approval Earned
« Reply #21 on: June 06, 2019, 12:20:01 AM »

Thanks for sharing your experience for others to learn from, and enjoy the hobby!

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