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VA3VF

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K0UA

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RE: AMPRNet sells 25% of it's IPv4 address space.
« Reply #1 on: July 19, 2019, 04:40:15 PM »

FYI.

https://www.ampr.org/amprnet/


I would have sold many more of them. Good idea to sell, but should have sold more. These will be worthless in time.
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RE: AMPRNet sells 25% of it's IPv4 address space.
« Reply #2 on: July 19, 2019, 04:53:53 PM »

Wow. Quite a bit of shock expressed on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/amateurradio
Links:
https://www.reddit.com/r/amateurradio/comments/cf2cbo/see_ya_448/
https://www.reddit.com/r/amateurradio/comments/cf5v6e/can_some_eli5_the_448_fiasco/
https://www.reddit.com/r/amateurradio/comments/cf2boh/amateur_radio_digital_communications_sells_part/

and on Hacker News: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20477670

BTW -
Regarding this comment from DD2TH... This is an international resource. I wonder how international the board is.
"TommiHPunkt DD2TH - This is so retarded... the entire german Hamnet uses exactly the address space they sold"
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VA3VF

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RE: AMPRNet sells 25% of it's IPv4 address space.
« Reply #3 on: July 19, 2019, 05:45:46 PM »

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BTW -
Regarding this comment from DD2TH... This is an international resource. I wonder how international the board is.
"TommiHPunkt DD2TH - This is so retarded... the entire german Hamnet uses exactly the address space they sold"

It's a 'World Series' type board:

The ARDC Board of Directors

    Brian Kantor, WB6CYT
    Phil Karn, KA9Q
    K. C. Claffy, KC6KCC
    John Gilmore, W0GNU
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RE: AMPRNet sells 25% of it's IPv4 address space.
« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2019, 08:53:27 PM »

A couple of stupid questions:

1.  What does an IP address in the 44.x.y.z range get you that your own home or work address can't provide?  I've heard about these addresses for 25 years, and I still don't know what they're used for.  If I want to connect my rig to the Internet, I can do so now, via my home LAN and router.

2.  IPv6 is going to take over when?  How long have we been hearing this?  15-20 years?  It has yet to happen.  Not sure if it ever will.
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K0UA

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RE: AMPRNet sells 25% of it's IPv4 address space.
« Reply #5 on: July 19, 2019, 09:17:12 PM »

A couple of stupid questions:

1.  What does an IP address in the 44.x.y.z range get you that your own home or work address can't provide?  I've heard about these addresses for 25 years, and I still don't know what they're used for.  If I want to connect my rig to the Internet, I can do so now, via my home LAN and router.

2.  IPv6 is going to take over when?  How long have we been hearing this?  15-20 years?  It has yet to happen.  Not sure if it ever will.

Give me a call if you want and I will explain it all to you.. I am just not going to type it all out at this point. leave you number if you want in my actual email box.  my call @yahoo.com I will go over it all with you and answer your question as best I can.  Or perhaps someone else would care to explain it all in words...
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RE: AMPRNet sells 25% of it's IPv4 address space.
« Reply #6 on: July 20, 2019, 06:14:21 AM »

You can watch the story unfold here:
https://www.mail-archive.com/nanog@nanog.org/index.html#101516

Notable posting here:
https://mailman.nanog.org/pipermail/nanog/2019-July/102138.html

I they probably did the right thing to sell it. The amount of money they took in could be enormous (10s of millions?).   :o
I wonder where I send my grant application?  ;D
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K0UA

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RE: AMPRNet sells 25% of it's IPv4 address space.
« Reply #7 on: July 20, 2019, 06:38:00 AM »

I still say it was a very astute decision to sell them.  You are selling a product whose sell by date is coming soon for a tremendous amount of money that can do a tremendous amount of good (provided that happens) and a product that was not benefiting you and your group in any way. WIN WIN WIN.  I would have sold more...
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