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AC2RY

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RE: Found my dream home...
« Reply #15 on: September 25, 2019, 07:43:13 PM »

I'm looking at a house. The CC&R's actually say "no antennas" so that is an easy win. Further, I can easily show that other items in the rules are not being enforced. I'm wondering if they will want to crack down on everybody when I put up some antennas... Also, if I have to employ the Federal law, wondering if a hexbeam can be seen as what it takes to accomodate my station...

Read CC&R from the first page to the last before you put money on the table. If it says "no antenna", it means NO ANTENNA. If you have to live under HOA, find one where antennas are allowed, likely under some conditions. Make sure there are tall trees on your future property - they will allow you to easily hide vertical or wire antenna from plain view. This is likely will be a condition for you to have antenna allowed.
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W9IQ

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« Reply #16 on: September 26, 2019, 04:30:10 AM »

If it says no antenna, then ham radio antennas are not allowed. But regardless of the deed restrictions, satellite, OTA TV, and Internet antennas are allowed due to federal preemption.

- Glenn W9IQ
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K1VSK

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« Reply #17 on: September 26, 2019, 04:49:17 AM »

If it says no antenna, then ham radio antennas are not allowed. But regardless of the deed restrictions, satellite, OTA TV, and Internet antennas are allowed due to federal preemption.

- Glenn W9IQ
It's important to add to the above  that such items are allowed only to the extent  and within the limitations imposed by an HOA which may and typically do limit height, size, location and other aesthetic considerations.

If antenna considerations define the quality of  life, such person has bigger issues to resolve.
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K7JQ

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« Reply #18 on: September 26, 2019, 05:58:18 AM »


If antenna considerations define the quality of  life, such person has bigger issues to resolve.

No disrespect meant, but I don't think that's a situation for you to define or comment on. Quality of life is different for everyone. Things not very important to you just might be very important to others, especially in our later years. Case in point, when one retires from working and kids are grown up and out of the house, priorities change. Depending on financial and physical limitations, some people can't or don't want to travel, etc, and are happy and content to enjoy the amenities of their home and its surroundings. Ham radio can be a very important part of one's everyday activities, thus antenna considerations are a primary concern, not a trivial "issue" that you disagree on.

Sorry about the soapbox, but this topic is about antenna restrictions, not an evaluation of what defines one's quality of life.

73,  Bob K7JQ
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K1VSK

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« Reply #19 on: September 26, 2019, 06:56:16 AM »



Sorry about the soapbox, but this topic is about antenna restrictions, not an evaluation of what defines one's quality of life.

73,  Bob K7JQ
It’s hard to not be judgmental when looking at the title of the thread which implies “dream home” changes into a nightmare simply based on antenna desire.
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KH6AQ

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« Reply #20 on: September 26, 2019, 08:21:00 AM »

Having lived in four housing developments with CC&Rs having "no amateur radio antenna clauses" has presented some fun challenges. What worked was to be stealthy and decent performance down to 160 meters was had.

House #1: No CC&R enforcement group. Installed a 5BTV in the backyard and a 6 meter ground plane on the roof.

House #2: Very active CC&R enforcement. Cited me for two things but never noticed the 38' vertical that would appear after dark or the #26 wire dipole just above the roof.

House #3: Very active CC&R enforcement. Never noticed the 30' push up fiberglass mast that would appear after dark.

House #4: Very active CC&R enforcement. Within 12 hours of installation cited me for a 5BTV on the roof. Installed a #26 wire dipole just above the roof line. It was never noticed. Removed that and in backyard installed a screwdriver antenna that looked like a birdhouse. It was visible thru the "good neighbor" fence but was never cited.
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K7JQ

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« Reply #21 on: September 26, 2019, 08:29:45 AM »



Sorry about the soapbox, but this topic is about antenna restrictions, not an evaluation of what defines one's quality of life.

73,  Bob K7JQ
It’s hard to not be judgmental when looking at the title of the thread which implies “dream home” changes into a nightmare simply based on antenna desire.

Nonetheless, judgemental it was, and that is not for you or anyone else to question his quality of life decisions, implying that he has "bigger issues" than antenna concerns. It's quite obvious that the home itself meets his desires, however his intention to erect a hex beam in order to enjoy his hobby might be denied by his misunderstanding of the implications that the CC&R's provide. He has a right to declare this revelation a "nightmare" if he so chooses. I (and everyone else) was just advising him to do his due diligence regarding CC&R antenna restrictions before he signs off on the purchase. I believe that was all he was asking about when posting this thread.
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K1VSK

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« Reply #22 on: September 26, 2019, 09:04:31 AM »



Sorry about the soapbox, but this topic is about antenna restrictions, not an evaluation of what defines one's quality of life.

73,  Bob K7JQ
It’s hard to not be judgmental when looking at the title of the thread which implies “dream home” changes into a nightmare simply based on antenna desire.

Nonetheless, judgemental it was, and that is not for you or anyone else to question...

The irony in that statement is adorable
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K7JQ

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« Reply #23 on: September 26, 2019, 11:24:16 AM »



Sorry about the soapbox, but this topic is about antenna restrictions, not an evaluation of what defines one's quality of life.

73,  Bob K7JQ
It’s hard to not be judgmental when looking at the title of the thread which implies “dream home” changes into a nightmare simply based on antenna desire.

Nonetheless, judgemental it was, and that is not for you or anyone else to question...

The irony in that statement is adorable

Au contrere, mon ami! I'm not judging you or your values. I'm sure you're a man of high integrity, but maybe, just maybe, you made a statement (without really thinking) questioning someone else's definition of quality of life and what HE values, when it wasn't warranted in the context of this topic. In essence, you implied he was nuts for including antenna considerations as a priority in his search for a new home. You're just reluctant to say it might have been inappropriate to convey that he has "bigger issues". Sorry to get off topic here, guys, but I just think VSK said something he shouldn't.  And maybe you think I shouldn't have defended the OP for merely wanting advice on CC&R's from people with experience with them. If so, I apologize. I'm done.

By the way, I have been told that I'm adorable. But looking in the mirror, I can't see it ;D.

73, Bob K7JQ
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K1VSK

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« Reply #24 on: September 26, 2019, 01:50:10 PM »



 questioning someone else's definition of quality of life.....

you implied he was nuts for including antenna considerations......

 I just think VSK said something he shouldn't. 

73, Bob K7JQ

Yet more examples of the irony of your accusations.

At least I admitted my judgment.

Let’s just agree to disagree about quality of life being dependent on inanimate objects.
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K7JQ

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« Reply #25 on: September 26, 2019, 02:55:22 PM »



 questioning someone else's definition of quality of life.....

you implied he was nuts for including antenna considerations......

 I just think VSK said something he shouldn't. 

73, Bob K7JQ


Yet more examples of the irony of your accusations.

At least I admitted my judgment.

Let’s just agree to disagree about quality of life being dependent on inanimate objects.

Don, one more comment ;D....

No accusation, no judgement on your character, just my opinion that you made an inappropriate comment in the intention of this thread.

Now, you have a beautiful, 41 foot sailboat (inanimate object) that you tool around the Caribbean in. I think that's great, and I'm sure you worked hard to be able to achieve that luxury. Would your quality of life be affected if you didn't have that anymore? Kinda like a ham without his coveted antenna?

OK, I agree to disagree on this subject. We should all just enjoy life the way we want ;).

73,  Bob K7JQ

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K1VSK

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« Reply #26 on: September 27, 2019, 10:12:05 AM »

. Would your quality of life be affected if you didn't have that anymore?

73,  Bob K7JQ



No. It wouldn’t. Sailing is my hobby, not my life.

And arguably, my quality of life would be greater without the headaches, time consumed, expense and effort involved in sailing her . Also,  sailing a small boat is both more challenging and more fun than with a larger boat. And sailing on someone elses’ boat is always preferable. The metaphors are obvious.
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« Reply #27 on: September 27, 2019, 03:15:20 PM »

Very interesting insights into sailing and Hobbies.
As I'm certain you already know, Jean Socrates just set the World Record for oldest person sailing unassisted around the World.
(https://www.svnereida.com/blog) and of course Ham Radio made a contribution to her success.

It seems also to me that all Hobbies done on a small scale are usually the most rewarding.
Gardening...Even Aquariums! Something I can agree on with Don! (First time for everything.. ;-))

73 DE W8LV BILL
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« Reply #28 on: September 28, 2019, 05:10:24 AM »

The Ultimate in Irony is that some are affected by the presence of a small antenna in a neighbor's yard.  Talk about one's perceived and distort quality of life index being ruined by an innocuous inanimate object that in reality has no effect on their lives.
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K1VSK

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« Reply #29 on: September 28, 2019, 06:27:26 AM »

The Ultimate in Irony is that some are affected by the presence of a small antenna in a neighbor's yard.  Talk about one's perceived and distort quality of life index being ruined by an innocuous inanimate object that in reality has no effect on their lives.

“Rules are rules”. We don’t get to ignore those we dislike.

To state the obvious -

What is in a neighbor’s yard can and often does affect the aesthetics of the neighborhood, property values, resale potential, etc., all of which clearly can negatively affect their lives.
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