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AC2EU

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Re: Perhaps change the definition of this Forum topic?
« Reply #15 on: August 10, 2020, 07:29:31 PM »

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The "problem" if it is a problem, was  self inflicted the day they signed up for a HOA.
If you sign a legally binding contract , you are expected to obey the terms of said contract.

I'm not up to what HOA does or does not entail, but based on the quoted text, I think I 'know' enough.

In my hometown, a new sub-division was built 'next door' to the the city's airport. The 'pride of ownership' folks are now 'up in arms' because of the noise the airport causes. They want it moved: no ifs, ands, or buts.

For context, my hometown is Canada's capital, and the airport has been there for 60+ years.

No, an HOA can only dictate terms within their private community. In the US, the HOA has the right to complain about an airport like anybody can, but the complaints will be mostly ignored unless some noise abatement ordinances were violated at the airport. It's a toothless tiger outside the community, but the folks within signed up for the restrictions.

The people who bought into that subdivision didn't know there was an airport there? Like anything else, do your due diligence before buying! They can live with it or move also...

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Re: Perhaps change the definition of this Forum topic?
« Reply #16 on: August 10, 2020, 08:01:29 PM »

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The people who bought into that subdivision didn't know there was an airport there? Like anything else, do your due diligence before buying! They can live with it or move also...

Precisely, but try reasoning with them. A major international airport that has been there all along. Did they visit the houses at 3 o'clock in the morning, I wonder? Perhaps the real estate agent told them no 747 or A380s, I don't know. ;)

I doubt the airport is not complying with all the rules and regulations they are supposed to comply with. The airport is far from capacity, so moving won't happen anytime soon.

As for the new owners moving, their properties are worth less now because of the airport, or so they say. Some people are funny. :)
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Re: Perhaps change the definition of this Forum topic?
« Reply #17 on: August 11, 2020, 04:12:18 AM »

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The people who bought into that subdivision didn't know there was an airport there? Like anything else, do your due diligence before buying! They can live with it or move also...

Precisely, but try reasoning with them. A major international airport that has been there all along. Did they visit the houses at 3 o'clock in the morning, I wonder? Perhaps the real estate agent told them no 747 or A380s, I don't know. ;)

I doubt the airport is not complying with all the rules and regulations they are supposed to comply with. The airport is far from capacity, so moving won't happen anytime soon.

As for the new owners moving, their properties are worth less now because of the airport, or so they say. Some people are funny. :)

Just like the people who buy next to a freeway and then demand taxpayers put up sound barrier walls. Can't figure out why governments need to do this when it was not their fault that the homeowner(s) couldn't understand that freeways are noisy.

I grew up with a railroad next to our property. Tracks about 150 feet away. To me the noise of passing trains was normal. The freeways become the same thing...background noise...if they let it.

As for HOA's, my lifestyle precludes buying in an HOA, and I know and understand that. (Besides the next move I make will probably be to my grave.) And that is the "problem" as I see it. When you make a big decision, you should try to anticipate any problems of compatibility and see if in time you can live with the issues identified. If an HOA works for you...great! If it presents too many problems for you...it's a poor choice to make then. But each and every person/family must make the choice and live with it, or move on.
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Re: Perhaps change the definition of this Forum topic?
« Reply #18 on: August 11, 2020, 04:47:05 AM »

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The people who bought into that subdivision didn't know there was an airport there? Like anything else, do your due diligence before buying! They can live with it or move also...

Precisely, but try reasoning with them. A major international airport that has been there all along. Did they visit the houses at 3 o'clock in the morning, I wonder? Perhaps the real estate agent told them no 747 or A380s, I don't know. ;)

I doubt the airport is not complying with all the rules and regulations they are supposed to comply with. The airport is far from capacity, so moving won't happen anytime soon.

As for the new owners moving, their properties are worth less now because of the airport, or so they say. Some people are funny. :)

Just like the people who buy next to a freeway and then demand taxpayers put up sound barrier walls. Can't figure out why governments need to do this when it was not their fault that the homeowner(s) couldn't understand that freeways are noisy.


Flew into DIA last year.  Large airport that seems to be in the boonies.   They closed Stapleton in 1995 (which was within the city limits) and moved all flight operations to DIA, which is 13 miles away from the old Stapleton tower (tower to tower, as a comparison).   

Many of the side roads adjacent to DIA have housing developments going in.  The closest one I could measure on a map is 5 miles away. 

I've said for years, that people want 5 bars of cell phone service in their basement, but they don't want to see the towers.  They also want to be 5 minutes from the airport, but don't want to hear the jet noise. 
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Re: Perhaps change the definition of this Forum topic?
« Reply #19 on: August 11, 2020, 05:54:22 AM »



 First, I am not interested in being a neighbor of yours, so you don't have to concern yourself with my interference in your preferred lifestyle. What if my race or religion were not to your liking. Would my request to become a neighbor of yours also cause distress for you? Don't give me the, it's not the same thing argument because in reality it is. Someone with whom you disagree with no matter what the reason adding stress to your lifestyle, whether it be race, religion or engaging in a legal pursuit. It's not for you to decide what holds merit and what does not.
Perfect example of the “all about me” attitude which pervades that comment.

It isn’t about me or you. Stop looking at this selfishly. No one has any right to interfere in the business, community or culture of a place they don’t live. That you advocate trying is simply arrogant by wanting to change the rules of places in which you don’t live. It’s that simple.

In my community or any other HOA where people aren’t complaining about antenna limitations, it’s certainly not your right to interfere or “decide what holds merit”. There are plenty of places you can live where the neighborhood doesn’t have to change to accommodate your hobby.

Playing the “race card” noted!
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Re: Perhaps change the definition of this Forum topic?
« Reply #20 on: August 11, 2020, 09:14:59 AM »

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