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WE4B

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Re: AMSAT BB Censorship
« Reply #75 on: November 20, 2020, 02:29:40 PM »

A current AMSAT-NA Board member just posted the AMSAT-NA Ambassador Code of Conduct in the thread started by the Ambassador that continues to violate the rules of the Code of Conduct.

Since legacy, incumbent Board members think that bylaws and Washington DC corporate code don’t matter, it’s easy to understand why they don’t enforce their own Code of Conduct of organizational representatives.

Can any of y’all imagine the ARRL operating in such a haphazard manner? Or any legitimate amateur radio organization? It’s no wonder why AMSAT-NA is in a downward spiral.
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W4HIJ

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« Reply #76 on: November 20, 2020, 08:46:50 PM »

It's interesting how as soon as I mentioned publicly that I was being harassed at my private E-mail, those E-mails stopped immediately. Just like the AMSAT organization itself, the individual in question doesn't want any sort of a light shown on what he's really up to.
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WE4B

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Re: AMSAT BB Censorship
« Reply #77 on: November 20, 2020, 09:51:34 PM »

It's interesting how as soon as I mentioned publicly that I was being harassed at my private E-mail, those E-mails stopped immediately. Just like the AMSAT organization itself, the individual in question doesn't want any sort of a light shown on what he's really up to.
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Michael, W4HIJ

That's how that individual operates. I've got emails from him along with private messages from various social media forums. He is well known for this type of behavior. This particular person even makes up things and publishes them on his web site. He is also well known for doing that. I wouldn't lose any sleep over this individual. He's just a keyboard warrior that has an odd fascination with Tang. He has found that the legacy, incumbent Board members of AMSAT-NA condone and encourage this type of behavior from their pawns and cronies.

As long as AMSAT-NA allows their representatives to harass members, non-members and potential members in this manner, AMSAT-NA will continue to receive the negative press which they seem to enjoy. One day AMSAT-NA members will wake-up and clean house. Until then, we can all expect AMSAT-NA to continue to generate bad press through the actions of their leaders and representatives. It's really sad but it is what it is.
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VE3WGO

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« Reply #78 on: November 21, 2020, 06:57:23 AM »

Most organizations that I am aware of do not seem to have term limits on their leadership team positions, but particularly in Amsat-NA's case, it might be a good idea to add terms limits as an amendment to the bylaws.  The bylaws are here:  https://www.amsat.org/bylaws-of-the-radio-amateur-satellite-corporation/.  Not that I would expect it to be easy to get agreement of 2/3 of the directors (see Article IV near the end of the page).  Members might go for it though.

 I could find nothing mentioned about any kind of limitations of being a director or executive, other than being elected.  So in theory, someone could be president for life.

73, Ed
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Re: AMSAT BB Censorship
« Reply #79 on: November 21, 2020, 07:33:38 AM »

Most organizations that I am aware of do not seem to have term limits on their leadership team positions, but particularly in Amsat-NA's case, it might be a good idea to add terms limits as an amendment to the bylaws.  The bylaws are here:  https://www.amsat.org/bylaws-of-the-radio-amateur-satellite-corporation/.  Not that I would expect it to be easy to get agreement of 2/3 of the directors (see Article IV near the end of the page).  Members might go for it though.

 I could find nothing mentioned about any kind of limitations of being a director or executive, other than being elected.  So in theory, someone could be president for life.

73, Ed

This dilemma is quite common with clubs and organizations.
It's the apathy of the general membership that allows this happen.
Nobody seriously campaigns or perhaps even know enough about the club operations to get elected.
Sometimes, its due to a form of intimidation from the entrenched leadership.

None the less, if things get to where they are now at AMSAT, you would think the member would elect ANYBODY to replace the current regime, but that didn't happen.

I think you gentlemen are beating a dead horse, unless you are willing to continue waging a reform campaign with facts, figures and a plan.

There was a guy who had an agenda to bring to the ARRL, who showed up at every hamfest I attended , ( probably all in the district) handing out flyers about his plans, asking to be elected district manager.
It was a success. He unseated a "do nothing" manager of 20 years.

There is hope...

WE4B

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Re: AMSAT BB Censorship
« Reply #80 on: November 21, 2020, 10:58:26 AM »

I could find nothing mentioned about any kind of limitations of being a director or executive, other than being elected.  So in theory, someone could be president for life.

AMSAT-NA Presidents are elected. They are appointed by the Board. When the Board is made up of legacy, incumbents guess who gets appointed? Their cronies. The last two AMSAT-NA Presidents have resigned while there was serious controversy within the organization. A new one was just appointed (anointed) and, guess what? He's a crony of the legacy, incumbent Board members. This new President must do as the Board says in order to maintain his puppet title. It's really a sad situation. The AMSAT-NA bylaws need to be rewritten but that leads to another problem.... the legacy, incumbent Board members refuse to have regular meetings in order to conduct business. Once again, this is documented by a current Board member here:

http://amsat.wd9ewk.net

You can't revise bylaws unless the Board meets and approves them and the legacy, incumbent Board members are not interested in changing bylaws that would limit their power to spend the money of members and would do away with their clubhouse.

This is all FACT. You'll see the same person attempting to defend and deflect but, once again, he would be wrong. When in comes to AMSAT-NA, it's all smoke and mirrors in an attempt to allow legacy, incumbent Board members and their cronies to maintain power and to have their own clubhouse which is paid for by members.
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WE4B

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Re: AMSAT BB Censorship
« Reply #81 on: November 21, 2020, 11:40:39 AM »


AMSAT-NA Presidents are elected.

That should have said not elected. Sorry for my faux pas.
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K6LCS

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Re: AMSAT BB Censorship
« Reply #82 on: November 21, 2020, 02:05:05 PM »

Three assumptions ... two blatant misrepresentations of the truth ... three misinterpretations of easily discovered situations ... one false prophet citation ...

It is obvious you have never been interested in truth-telling. That FACT you have proven for years.

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WE4B>> ... [ ... un-truths ... un-truths ... un-truths ... ]

K6LCS.. You are not being truthful.

WE4B>> Clint needs to be reported to the authorities for being mean, everybody! He has incited unpleasant emotional reactions in me ...

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It was old a long time ago ... The voters spoke. You aren't to be trusted.

Clint Bradford
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WE4B

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Re: AMSAT BB Censorship
« Reply #83 on: November 21, 2020, 02:13:59 PM »

You aren't to be trusted.

The AMSAT-NA Ambassador, speaking as a representative of AMSAT-NA continues in his quest to belittle and libel a paid, AMSAT-NA member. This is not a great way for AMSAT-NA build goodwill and trust of the organization. Rather, it just backs-up what so many see and comment about concerning AMSAT-NA.

Why won't AMSAT-NA enforce their Ambassador Code of Conduct? Why do they allow an Ambassador to post such libelous claims which will forever be archived on the internet? My guess is that they just don't care. As long as the legacy, incumbent Board members get to keep their seats and spend the money of others, nobody cares.

This AMSAT-NA Ambassador continues to prove that he and AMSAT-NA are just a clubhouse for legacy, incumbent Board members.

Thankfully, all of this is duly archived on the internet, forever. Is this what members and potential members want from an amateur radio satellite organization and its representatives?
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K6LCS

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Re: AMSAT BB Censorship
« Reply #84 on: November 21, 2020, 02:18:58 PM »

>> ... libelous claims ...

Truth is my defense.

Just because one repeatedly says something does not make it true.

Not here ... not in his blog ... not in his obscenity-laden email messages ... not on his defamatory Web sites ...

Clint Bradford
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WE4B

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Re: AMSAT BB Censorship
« Reply #85 on: November 21, 2020, 02:51:51 PM »

Truth is my defense.

I may not be the sharpest tool in the shed but I'm pretty certain that there have been several people here on the forum that have been asking you about the truth the past few days.

I've backed-up everything that I have said with credible, verifiable information. What I have posted is true and factual. Whereas, it seems, all you can do is attempt to deflect claims against the organization while violating the AMSAT-NA Ambassador Code of Conduct. It has all been noted and recorded. The fact that AMSAT-NA allows a representative of the organization to continue to do this speaks volumes to members and potential members.

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K6LCS

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« Reply #86 on: November 21, 2020, 03:13:52 PM »

Your word is worthless - unless you back your allegations with evidence. Show us documents that show illegal actions occurred. Show us the Minutes and official board statements and Budgets that show inappropriate actions. Show us proof. Your repeated allegations are meaningless.

And if being called out and causing great emotional distress to you for being one who sees through your nonsense - well, tough.

Again evasive ... not responsive ... without documentation: DISMISSED. Try again.
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WE4B

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Re: AMSAT BB Censorship
« Reply #87 on: November 21, 2020, 03:19:58 PM »

Your word is worthless - unless you back your allegations with evidence. Show us documents that show illegal actions occurred. Show us the Minutes and official board statements and Budgets that show inappropriate actions. Show us proof. Your repeated allegations are meaningless.

And if being called out and causing great emotional distress to you for being one who sees through your nonsense - well, tough.

Again evasive ... not responsive ... without documentation: DISMISSED. Try again.

LOL! Once again, personal attacks against a paid, AMSAT-NA member by an AMSAT-NA Ambassador who just can't seem to restrain themselves as they continue to bring shame on AMSAT-NA by violating the AMSAT-NA Ambassador Code of Conduct.

I have posted credible evidence to back-up all my claims. The shills for the legacy, incumbent Board members seem to only be able to attack members and potential members while violating the AMSAT-NA Ambassador Code of Conduct.

Sadly, this has what has become of AMSAT-NA and everyone is watching it in action right here.
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K6LCS

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Re: AMSAT BB Censorship
« Reply #88 on: November 21, 2020, 03:41:58 PM »

WE4B>> ... I have posted evidence ...

No. You post ridiculous conspiracy theories and unsubstantiated allegations. You point to non-official AMSAT-NA sites.

Post the AMSAT Budget involved. Show us the budgeted line item for legal expenses. Show us what it is. Give us FACTS.

Show us the proof of non-approved expenditures that were made without board approval that you whine about.

EVIDENCE! Make a case! Show documentation of all this wrongdoing and I'll jump ship faster than you can say, "malcontent."

Tweets ... blog posts ... eHam rants - are not evidence, no matter how many times you write them.
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WE4B

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Re: AMSAT BB Censorship
« Reply #89 on: November 21, 2020, 03:55:34 PM »

It's obvious from these silly comments from an AMSAT-NA Ambassador that what has been posted, complete with credible and verifiable information cannot be disputed. As such, AMSAT-NA sends forth one of their Ambassadors in an attempt to deflect from the truth.

Attention AMSAT-NA Ambassador, people are laughing at these poor attempts of deflection as you consistently violate the AMSAT-NA Ambassador Code of Conduct. Just think what potential members must think when they see this. I bet they run as fast as they can.

It's easy for anyone to see how AMSAT-NA legacy, incumbent Board members condone this type of behavior from their Ambassadors. What a sad day for a once great organization.
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