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N5PG

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Yaesu FTDX10 Announced
« on: October 30, 2020, 06:45:16 PM »

Gigaparts has the most info it seems:
 
https://www.gigaparts.com/yaesu-ft-dx10-hf-50mhz-100w-compact-sdr-transceiver.html

Another hybrid.
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Re: Yaesu FTDX10 Announced
« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2020, 07:14:46 PM »

This looks like a single receiver version of the FTDX101, I believe.  Maybe to compete with the TS590SG and Icom 7300.  Any idea as to actual selling price?  I see the MSRP is $2000 which is well above the 7300 level.  It is the same size as the 7300, though.

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N5PG

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Re: Yaesu FTDX10 Announced
« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2020, 08:06:28 PM »

No idea of street price & Gigaparts might be guessing !
Could indeed be a "simplified" version of the '101D kinda like FT-990 vs FT-1000D.
Maybe replacement for the FT-3000 too.
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Re: Yaesu FTDX10 Announced
« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2020, 08:13:40 PM »

My bet, a replacement for the FT 3000.
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Re: Yaesu FTDX10 Announced
« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2020, 07:06:33 AM »

Under $2000. Looking good. Used a lot of style clues of the FT-991A.
With a manufacture's coupon (someday), competition for the IC7300.
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AC7CW

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Re: Yaesu FTDX10 Announced
« Reply #5 on: November 02, 2020, 11:18:59 AM »

It appears to me that the architecture is actually dual conversion with the DSP in the second IF. The direct sampling is used only for the bandscope. One advantage is that it seems to have the superb front end from the FTdx-101 but without the continuous tuned filtering. It has switched filters instead. So essentially it's not an SDR at all...
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Re: Yaesu FTDX10 Announced
« Reply #6 on: November 02, 2020, 12:17:12 PM »

It appears to me that the architecture is actually dual conversion with the DSP in the second IF. The direct sampling is used only for the bandscope. One advantage is that it seems to have the superb front end from the FTdx-101 but without the continuous tuned filtering. It has switched filters instead. So essentially it's not an SDR at all...
If the ADC for the DSP is done before demodulation, that technically still fits the definition of an SDR (similar to Tayloe IQ SDR kits).
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AC7CW

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Re: Yaesu FTDX10 Announced
« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2020, 06:22:31 PM »

It appears to me that the architecture is actually dual conversion with the DSP in the second IF. The direct sampling is used only for the bandscope. One advantage is that it seems to have the superb front end from the FTdx-101 but without the continuous tuned filtering. It has switched filters instead. So essentially it's not an SDR at all...
If the ADC for the DSP is done before demodulation, that technically still fits the definition of an SDR (similar to Tayloe IQ SDR kits).
I never made that distinction, thanks. This radio could be incredible considering how good the front end will be. If the audio with digital noise reduction is not watery sounding like my 991A then I'm interested.
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Re: Yaesu FTDX10 Announced
« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2020, 06:09:58 PM »

Unless theprice is going below $1000 the radio is dead in the marketing tracks.
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Re: Yaesu FTDX10 Announced
« Reply #9 on: November 08, 2020, 03:56:21 PM »

In most of their new radios, the menu system is very bad.
I have had two of their newer radios and got rid of them both quickly.
Makes Elecraft radios seem simple to set up and operate...
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Re: Yaesu FTDX10 Announced
« Reply #10 on: November 08, 2020, 04:52:42 PM »

In most of their new radios, the menu system is very bad.
I have had two of their newer radios and got rid of them both quickly.
Isn't the way people actually operate most of these new desktop radios via CAT control from the computer?  Then one never needs to play with the extremely poorly designed built-in menu systems at all, after plugging in and setting up the rig.
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AC7CW

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Re: Yaesu FTDX10 Announced
« Reply #11 on: November 08, 2020, 05:44:39 PM »

In most of their new radios, the menu system is very bad.
I have had two of their newer radios and got rid of them both quickly.
Makes Elecraft radios seem simple to set up and operate...

I'm curious to see how they do the menus on this new rig.

I have a 991A. I'd say the menu system takes some learning but it's not as bad as some think. There are two menus, one is large but it's pretty much covering the set-and-forget items, the other is smaller and covers the things that need changing when using the rig. It takes some work and acclimatization to get to where one appreciates the system but I find it to be pretty good once I got going with it.
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Re: Yaesu FTDX10 Announced
« Reply #12 on: November 09, 2020, 04:43:02 AM »

In most of their new radios, the menu system is very bad.
I have had two of their newer radios and got rid of them both quickly.
Isn't the way people actually operate most of these new desktop radios via CAT control from the computer?  Then one never needs to play with the extremely poorly designed built-in menu systems at all, after plugging in and setting up the rig.

That is certainly the way my 7300 is used - I don't remember the last time I touched any of the physical controls.

Martin (G8FXC)
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Re: Yaesu FTDX10 Announced
« Reply #13 on: November 09, 2020, 05:05:29 PM »

It Will be interesting to see more about this rig. The published specs are top drawer, but have not seen anything on the back panel connectivity (I/O). The specs (if confirmed by independent measurement) put it near the top of Sherwood's list, above the pure direct sampling SDR's as far as blocking is concerned, and really good 2KHz IMDR dynamic range. Reciprocal mixing is also quite good. If this holds, ergonomics and I/O operability are going to be the factors going forward in new rigs, as well as transmitter purity. This is better than the previous generation receivers in this price class, and marks a new standard as far as the above mentioned specs. I am waiting to hear of additional features beyond the receiver performance and the 3D band scope. My thought as others have said this may be a FTDX3000 replacement.

Currently own a IC 7300 which is very good for what it is. Not sure if this is an apples to apples comparison. The ICOM if properly set up has a very good 2D band scope. Its blocking performance is not as good due to it being direct sampling. This would only be a problem in very strong signal environments such as co located contest stations, and field day. The FTDX10 looks to be shooting for higher specs, mid tier in a portable package. This will make the TS590SG look long in the tooth.(also have a 590SG), which is also a very good rig. We are getting more bang for the buck with these new rigs. A fair comparison may be the K3S with only one RX, for RX performance, not sure on the features.
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