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N2DTS

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Re: Yaesu FTDX10 Announced
« Reply #15 on: November 10, 2020, 09:11:37 AM »

Great spec's  but I tend to dislike radios with a band button, a mode button, not even up and down buttons, just one button.
Are buttons so expensive they have to limit them to such low numbers?
Radio's like the Icom 756 pro series were my standard for ease of use with band and mode buttons for each.
A bad trend.
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G8FXC

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Re: Yaesu FTDX10 Announced
« Reply #16 on: November 11, 2020, 12:10:36 PM »

Great spec's  but I tend to dislike radios with a band button, a mode button, not even up and down buttons, just one button.
Are buttons so expensive they have to limit them to such low numbers?
Radio's like the Icom 756 pro series were my standard for ease of use with band and mode buttons for each.
A bad trend.

I think this is an extension of the comments above about unergonomic menu structures - the manufacturers may be realising that, increasingly, the physical controls are seldom used with operation taking place through a combination of PC mouse and keyboard. Manufacturers will always try to minimise the cost of manufacturing, I'm afraid. The trend started a long time ago - Kenwood used to offer a version of the TS2000 that had just one physical control - the power switch.

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N2DTS

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Re: Yaesu FTDX10 Announced
« Reply #17 on: November 11, 2020, 01:37:23 PM »

So you buy a radio to rag chew with your buds on 80 and 40 meters, and like to do a little CW and you control the radio with a computer?
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Re: Yaesu FTDX10 Announced
« Reply #18 on: November 11, 2020, 02:32:49 PM »

So you buy a radio to rag chew with your buds on 80 and 40 meters, and like to do a little CW and you control the radio with a computer?

If the radio is in another room, or another building, but has a LAN connection, sure, why get up from the easy chair if there's a laptop computer on the side table, or from the desk with the big monitor where all the radio controls are easier to see.
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Re: Yaesu FTDX10 Announced
« Reply #19 on: November 11, 2020, 11:36:33 PM »

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G8FXC

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Re: Yaesu FTDX10 Announced
« Reply #20 on: November 12, 2020, 02:37:36 AM »

So you buy a radio to rag chew with your buds on 80 and 40 meters, and like to do a little CW and you control the radio with a computer?

I certainly do - and I think it is a growing trend these days. My 7300 sits well back on my desk and the only front panel control used is the power switch. I have a decent specification PC with two large screens and almost all operation is done through the keyboard and mouse. I don't go in for a lot of remote operation - usually I'm working from a chair at my desk in the shack.

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Re: Yaesu FTDX10 Announced
« Reply #21 on: November 12, 2020, 03:29:07 AM »

Rear panel: https://int.wimo.com/en/ft-dx10

Well, there's a surprise - the external display is on a DVI socket, not HDMI! I thought that DVI was dying out - the socket is certainly larger than HDMI and would seem to be inappropriate on a compact rig....

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« Reply #22 on: November 12, 2020, 03:45:34 AM »

I noticed that too. I would guess they are trying to avoid the HDMI royalty and potentially DRM issues. The connector area looks modular so hopefully they come to their senses with the production version.

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G8FXC

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Re: Yaesu FTDX10 Announced
« Reply #23 on: November 12, 2020, 05:04:54 AM »

I noticed that too. I would guess they are trying to avoid the HDMI royalty and potentially DRM issues. The connector area looks modular so hopefully they come to their senses with the production version.

- Glenn W9IQ

Actually, I'm unconvinced by the marketing value of an external display option. Surely anyone that is prepared to put a screen on their shack table would prefer to have it hooked up to a PC - far more versatile than simply dedicating it to a larger panadaptor display. I would prefer that they gave me the panadaptor data over a fast USB port and let me display it in a window on my PC.

In fact it occurs to me that they are missing an even stronger marketing option - put the PC into the radio! A Raspberry Pi Zero costs about $10 and is the size of a stick of gum, but it is a capable little device. A Pi 4 costs something like $50 and can give a mid-range PC a good run for its money. Those are one-off prices to you or me - Yaesu or ICOM could get them a lot cheaper in bulk. I would think that there is quite a big marketing advantage for the first of the big manufacturers to ship a rig that you can connect to a screen, keyboard and mouse - then boot up and have not only a nice large panadaptor display, but also your logbook, DX Cluster, WSJT-X, PSKnnn, RTTY, JS8 etc. etc. all in a single box. I would certainly look very seriously at such an option...

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N2DTS

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Re: Yaesu FTDX10 Announced
« Reply #24 on: November 12, 2020, 05:22:35 AM »

Well, I have a Flex 6400M and run it from the radio as the delay (latency) through a fast computer is excessive.
Its direct connect ethernet at 1 gig.
The radio has an hdmi output but the display on the radio looks better to me.
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W9IQ

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Re: Yaesu FTDX10 Announced
« Reply #25 on: November 12, 2020, 06:44:54 AM »

The radio does have an Ethernet option so perhaps you will be able to avoid the dedicated monitor.

A Linux PC inside is an interesting idea. We are starting to see that on the high end HTs so you never know.

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Re: Yaesu FTDX10 Announced
« Reply #26 on: November 12, 2020, 06:52:47 AM »

So you buy a radio to rag chew with your buds on 80 and 40 meters, and like to do a little CW and you control the radio with a computer?

I certainly do - and I think it is a growing trend these days. My 7300 sits well back on my desk and the only front panel control used is the power switch. I have a decent specification PC with two large screens and almost all operation is done through the keyboard and mouse. I don't go in for a lot of remote operation - usually I'm working from a chair at my desk in the shack.

Martin (G8FXC)
Why buy the radio with the touch screen if you don't plan on touching it?
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G8FXC

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Re: Yaesu FTDX10 Announced
« Reply #27 on: November 12, 2020, 08:57:59 AM »

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Why buy the radio with the touch screen if you don't plan on touching it?

because it is arguably the best value radio on the market at the moment - in terms of price-performance ratio? You are quite hard-pressed to buy a modern HF radio without some degree of touch screen these days.

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G8FXC

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Re: Yaesu FTDX10 Announced
« Reply #28 on: November 12, 2020, 01:27:45 PM »

The radio does have an Ethernet option so perhaps you will be able to avoid the dedicated monitor.
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- Glenn W9IQ

Are you sure it has an ethernet option? There is no obvious connector on that back panel...

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K1FBI

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Re: Yaesu FTDX10 Announced
« Reply #29 on: November 12, 2020, 01:31:33 PM »

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Why buy the radio with the touch screen if you don't plan on touching it?

because it is arguably the best value radio on the market at the moment - in terms of price-performance ratio? You are quite hard-pressed to buy a modern HF radio without some degree of touch screen these days.

Martin (G8FXC)
Yes, it is an excellent value. Glad you are enjoying it.
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