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W9IQ

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Re: Yaesu FTDX10 Announced
« Reply #30 on: November 12, 2020, 02:12:00 PM »

The Ethernet option was listed by Wimo but everything still sounds preliminary so we will have to wait.

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KX2T

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Re: Yaesu FTDX10 Announced
« Reply #31 on: November 14, 2020, 06:21:48 AM »

The last thing I had seen on the new Yaesu was that it did have a DVI output on the back, no second RX or second antenna input but it does have APF and the contour control. If the RX specs are as good as they claim it very well might be a scaled down version of the 101D's RX section, they do show on the Yaesu site the optional roofing filter for 300Hz but  that is it but the RMD, Blocking and dynamic range numbers would spank even the old K3's and make the 7300 and 590 look old school. The size is about the same as the 590SG but maybe slightly taller cause it has the 5" display but just over a 10X10 inch box plus priced around $1699 thus far so having a better RX, APF and DVI output over the 7300 at a $700 plus price range might be for some a radio to consider but I feel there pricing should have been at the $1500 range.
This radio might bring Icom around to a newer version of there 7300 with more features but I have a feeling they just will leave well enough alone or maybe a radio between the 7300 and the 7610 might make more sense but Yaesu has done some nice things with there new 101 RX so this new kid on the block might stir up some new interest but if I were them I would not be pushing the 3D display as much as they do, that is the most ridiculous looking display on a radio EVER, just have one stiff drink, go into the shack turn that 3D on and you will get that real fast, pure gimmick!
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Re: Yaesu FTDX10 Announced
« Reply #32 on: November 15, 2020, 02:04:24 PM »

I'm not certain what if any advantage a 3d waterfall gives.
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Re: Yaesu FTDX10 Announced
« Reply #33 on: November 16, 2020, 07:59:45 AM »

I'm not certain what if any advantage a 3d waterfall gives.

Mostly looks better in the marketing brochures and YouTube reviews.

Also, the spectral signal peaks stand out a bit better in the waterfall history for people who are colorblind, or have similar visual issues.
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Re: Yaesu FTDX10 Announced
« Reply #34 on: November 16, 2020, 05:02:27 PM »

I don't think you have to use it.
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K1FBI

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Re: Yaesu FTDX10 Announced
« Reply #35 on: November 17, 2020, 02:57:42 AM »

I don't think you have to use it.
Though you still have to pay for it. They could have made the fluff an option like they did with the FTDX-1200.
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W9IQ

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Re: Yaesu FTDX10 Announced
« Reply #36 on: November 17, 2020, 03:25:35 AM »

One of the attractive features of SDR architectures for a manufacturer is that they get to reuse their software libraries with little or no NRE (non-recurring engineering). So their incremental cost to carry this feature into another product is near zero.

The marketing of the 3D feature suggests that they are using it to drive competitive differentiation. I doubt they would warm to the idea of making it optional.

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KX2T

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Re: Yaesu FTDX10 Announced
« Reply #37 on: November 17, 2020, 07:54:06 AM »

I think that the 3D display was more of a marketing ploy on the FTDX10 trying to be the baby brother of the 101D giving some of the features plus may be using the same ADC chip set to create a similar display. It also looks like what ever they did in the 101D did trickle down to the FTDX10 in the 9Mhz front end, those claimed specs are besting the FTDX3000 by a fat margin. I feel the 3000's days are numbered cause it sells on features not the best overall performance cause it rates rather low on an RX chart compared to the 7300 and even the 590's. Yes it has a second vfo/clarifier knob, three antenna ports with one addressable for RX only but its older DSP features and funky display are out dated plus the middle of the road RX performance, after all the radio came out before 2010 its over a 10 year old design.
This radio might be the one to push Icom to come out with a radio between the 7300 and the 7610, maybe something like the size of the 7410 with larger display, in band dual watch but with one digi select plus external display and RX antenna input, kind of a stripped down 7610.  But Icom has dumped a whole lot of money into the 705 which I cannot justify for the $1300 price tag so when you call a radio overpriced that is one radio that comes up IMO not worth the money at all.
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KX2T

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Re: Yaesu FTDX10 Announced
« Reply #38 on: November 17, 2020, 11:29:14 AM »

I must say one thing my post above on the FTDX3000 might seem a little harsh, to be honest I owned that radio from 2012 to 2018, at that time I found that radio overall better than the 590S and K3 I had before it, the RX side was very close but the K3 did seem slightly better on cw but I just could not warm up to the audio on the RX side. The 7300 came into the shack in 2018 and on crowded 40 m bands with CW the 7300 did edge out the 3000 but I never tried the 300Hz optional filter. I thought it was a good radio for the time period but like everything else technology marches on and I just did not want to sound too insulting.
I am looking very closely at the FTDX10, only time will tell.
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VE3WGO

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Re: Yaesu FTDX10 Announced
« Reply #39 on: November 24, 2020, 06:46:03 AM »

I wonder if Yaesu will ever get back into the VHF-UHF satellite rig market that they had with the FT-726/736/847 radios.   

The coolest thing would be if they made a companion radio to this new FTDX10, for the 144/430/1200 MHz bands with full duplex like those earlier models.  It would have C4FM too, so there's that.  It could easily compete with the Icom IC-9700.

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Re: Yaesu FTDX10 Announced
« Reply #40 on: November 24, 2020, 08:11:50 AM »

I wonder if Yaesu will ever get back into the VHF-UHF satellite rig market that they had with the FT-726/736/847 radios.   

The coolest thing would be if they made a companion radio to this new FTDX10, for the 144/430/1200 MHz bands with full duplex like those earlier models.  It would have C4FM too, so there's that.  It could easily compete with the Icom IC-9700.

73, Ed

I miss my 847! I do keep an eye on the second hand prices, but they are too expensive to justify - it was a fairly mediocre HF rig by today's standards, but a nice VHF/UHF box...

Martin (G8FXC)
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KX2T

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Re: Yaesu FTDX10 Announced
« Reply #41 on: November 24, 2020, 08:37:23 AM »

They should look at a VHF/UHF radio if they wanna compete against Icom's 9700 but only time will tell but this radio I feel is not the direct competition to Icom's 7300, if those RX specs are anywhere near what the radio will do its in another bracket as far as the receiver is concerned. Its really clear they do not want to go head to head with Icom's entry level radio at this time which is a smart move on there part but if they do and bring this new RX design into a lower price point then Icom will be forced to re make there 7300. It really depends on how this model sells out of the gate, I wish them well, at least now they don't have a large cooperate giant squashing there nuts on R&D costs and price vs profit, they are back to being Yaesu Musen again.
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Re: Yaesu FTDX10 Announced
« Reply #42 on: November 28, 2020, 11:12:22 AM »

Seven page brochure on groups.io

 https://tinyurl.com/y4r2u9a6  tnx to SQ9FMP
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Re: Yaesu FTDX10 Announced
« Reply #43 on: November 29, 2020, 05:51:33 PM »

One capability that neither Yaesu nor ICOM include is support for LF/MF transmissions, in the form of a low-level drive signal.  Kenwood, Flex, Elecraft and others seem to manage it and I notice there is some activity on at least 630 m in Japan, judging by the PSKreporter and WSPR database/maps.  I'm now used to the TS-890S bandscope for noise evaluation and minimization (antenna orienting etc) on MF but am looking to free that radio from routine MF operations.  I'd consider the FTDX10 as a replacement but I'm not interested in using a transverter.  It's disappointing because, if the FTDX10 receiver is as good as the FTDX101 on MF, it'd be quite attractive.  There are various alternatives involving my TS-590S and an external display but none are as elegant, or potentially as low-RFI, as the integrated radio.

73, Peter.
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Re: Yaesu FTDX10 Announced
« Reply #44 on: December 03, 2020, 08:10:34 AM »

Last night I had seen a Youtube video from a amateur radio retailer in Japan, he had a working FTDX 10 od display and was comparing size of this radio against the 991A plus had a short video of operation of the transceiver mostly with the 3D display. He was tuning back and forth and it looked like a drunken sailor, I personally did not like it when you tune cause it was all over the display but halfway into it he went to the standard spectrum display plus waterfall and then to the cw code reader. The radio look promising and if they might have improved the NR operation compared to what I have seen on video's of the 101D/MP plus the NB as well this rig may very well best the 7300 especially in the receiver department. I am not sure on this point cause the same DSP chip is used on the FTDX10 as in the 101 series so only if they can improve the code in firmware, we can only hope.
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