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VE3WGO

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Re: Yaesu FTDX10 Announced
« Reply #75 on: December 18, 2020, 07:16:01 AM »

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One antenna port, no RX antenna port, yet $600.00 more then the 7300?
For the $600.00 you get the 3d bandscope?
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... and the FTDX10 includes an external display port along with a LAN port and 2 more USB ports for mouse and keyboard.

So the FTDX10 is definitely a step up from the 7300.    But first, let's see how its receiver architecture stacks up in Sherwood tests before getting too excited.

73, Ed

ps. I own no Yaesu equipment, so not a fanboy or anything, just showing my interest.
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K9IUQ

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Re: Yaesu FTDX10 Announced
« Reply #76 on: December 18, 2020, 08:06:16 AM »


... and the FTDX10 includes an external display port along with a LAN port and 2 more USB ports for mouse and keyboard.

So the FTDX10 is definitely a step up from the 7300.    But first, let's see how its receiver architecture stacks up in Sherwood tests before getting too excited.


I finally got around to looking at the manual of the FTDX10, it reads much like my FTDX101MP manual. As an owner of the 101MP for a year, I am now quite familar with the way Yaesu does things in their new radios.

It seems to me that Yaesu took many many of the features of the 101 and put them into the 10. Menus are very similar. And let me talk about the menus.

As a very long time Icom user I was/am quite familiar with Icom menus. The menus in the 101MP are very easy to use and intuitive. All menu items are doable thru the touch screen which works very well. I would say that Icom menus are also very intuitive. Which is the winner? Neither. Both menu systems are more than adequate and easy to use for any reasonably intelligent ham. Unfortunately we have hams that do not have the skills or intelligence to use menu systems of modern radios. From the FTDX10 manual I would say their menu system is just like the 101 but on a slightly smaller scale.

Whine all you want, like em or not but menu system radios are here to stay.

Concerning receiver architecture , we all know that the FTDX101 hybrid structure beat all other radios on Sherwoods List. Also the 101 has an extremely clean xmitter according to QST review Nov 2019.

Will the FTDX10 have some of these same attributes? I would expect the radio to be very competitive  performance wise.

Now if you are a ham that sits on 160/75/40 mtrs AM/SSB bragging with your buddies about your Great 7-10khz tx audio and listening to rx audio thru an Ancient Marantz stereo while complaining about Dxers and Contesters screwing up the ham bands, look elsewhere for a radio instead of the FTDX10.  ;)

Stan K9IUQ
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N2DTS

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Re: Yaesu FTDX10 Announced
« Reply #77 on: December 18, 2020, 10:18:40 AM »

Some hams are smart enough to pick radios that are well thought out, and not stuck on one brand come what may or pick radios at the top of the Sherwood list just because.

And there is a big difference between the 101 which has lots of buttons and knobs over the 10 which has very few, but maybe that is hard for some Yaesu fan boys to see....
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K9IUQ

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Re: Yaesu FTDX10 Announced
« Reply #78 on: December 18, 2020, 11:16:09 AM »

Some hams are smart enough to pick radios that are well thought out, and not stuck on one brand come what may or pick radios at the top of the Sherwood list just because.

Yes, well thought out. Are you describing your Beloved Flexradio 6400M that is WITHOUT mouse control or speaker outputs? Designing a radio by super gluing a Maestro Tablet on a black box and calling it a knobbed radio? Or pricing such a Butt Ugly radio at $3000 plus $300 for ATU AND with a 3-4 month waiting period. How about those L  O  N  G wait times for software releases and fixes? From the Flex forum a couple of weeks ago "I’m losing faith in getting any updates. I feel like I’ve been abandoned." Imagine that, Flexradio software updates take forever, STILL??

Is the above what you consider smart and well thought out?? :D ;)

If a ham wants to work DX and Contesting, considering and understanding Sherwood's list seems to be smart and well thought out.

OTOH if you sit around telling lies and bragging about your Great Radio on AM/SSB to your General Class friends, and in your spare time constantly promote and defend your Beloved Radio on eHam, then I am surprised you would even know what a Sherwood List is.

Stan K9IUQ
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N2DTS

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Re: Yaesu FTDX10 Announced
« Reply #79 on: December 18, 2020, 12:54:48 PM »

Yet more pointless anger.
Its not good for your health you know.
Maybe you are just grumpy from dealing with all those menu's.
Maybe try a 7610.

I have told no lies, point one out.

While the equipment I mostly use is built by myself, I do like to try new radios.
I have had two new Yaesu radios 991a and 3000, three Icom's, pro3, two 7300's, the used Flex 6400M, the mcHF sdr, two G90's, a KX2 and a KX3 plus some qrp kits.

Its not my fault Flex has some great things about their radios, and its not my fault Yaesu menu systems are so unpopular and Icom gets high marks for their setups.




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K9IUQ

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Re: Yaesu FTDX10 Announced
« Reply #80 on: December 18, 2020, 02:48:54 PM »

Yet more pointless anger.

Its not good for your health you know.

Maybe you are just grumpy from dealing with all those menu's.
Maybe try a 7610.

I have told no lies, point one out.

You posted your opinions which are debatable as every ham looks at radios differently. I have NO anger about any radio, not do I have anger against you. in fact I am the happiest when I get the chance to debate a Flexlover.  Grumpy? I am never Grumpy, I love debating opinions and am pretty good at it, especially when I deal with dedicated Flexlovers.

I never lie on eHam, if I did I would have been sued for defamation by Flexradio years ago. Before I post anything I always make sure it is factual. You may not agree with my facts but they are true.

For instance you do not like Contesting or Dxing and posted that fact here on eham more than once. You like AM mode, which infers long conversations about radios and audio. If you look at my QRZ.com webpage you will find I also like AM mode but I also am a ham that embraces all modes (well maybe not FT8  ;) ) and likes CW/Contesting and Dxing. I require a much different radio than you.

You certainly do constantly promote/defend your Flexradio on eHam.  OTOH I rarely post anything about my 101MP since my postings a year ago when I was looking for info on it here on this forum. The 101MP is just yet another radio to me.

I suspect you are the Grumpy one, I do have that affect on Flexlovers. I seem to get under your skin
definitely.

Stan K9IUQ
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K9IUQ

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Re: Yaesu FTDX10 Announced
« Reply #81 on: December 18, 2020, 03:41:16 PM »

FWIW In another younger life I was a long time Union Steward. Union Stewards LOVE to argue and make management look silly. Once it gets in your blood, it is hard to stop.  :) :)

The first thing I learned in Union Steward school was never take it personally, it is just a job. I remember vividly Management Supervisors wanting to strangle me in a heated meeting, calling me every vulgar name they could throw it me. That evening, they would buy me beers at the local bar, all of us laughing and joking about the day's events.

So don't call me Grumpy, angry, nasty, etc, as arguing/debating is all fun and just a game to play to me..  :D :D :D :D

I also believe eHam keeps me healthy by keeping the old adrenaline flowing whenever I post.

Stan K9IUQ
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K1FBI

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Re: Yaesu FTDX10 Announced
« Reply #82 on: December 19, 2020, 04:45:43 AM »

How do such supposedly highly intelligent people find Yaesu's menu system so difficult?? I can even program my BaoFeng by hand, yet many find it difficult and have to buy programming software.
Personally I think an iPhone requires more skill than a Yaesu.
I'm surprised many of you got your television up and running.
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K9IUQ

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Re: Yaesu FTDX10 Announced
« Reply #83 on: December 19, 2020, 05:38:00 AM »

How do such supposedly highly intelligent people find Yaesu's menu system so difficult?? I can even program my BaoFeng by hand, yet many find it difficult and have to buy programming software.
Personally I think an iPhone requires more skill than a Yaesu.
I'm surprised many of you got your television up and running.

I wonder the same thing. Hams are no longer Highly Intelligent. It goes beyond menu systems tho. The intelligence of hamradio operators has continually deteriorated for many many years. At one time I was Proud to be a Ham.

No longer, listening to the crap on 160/80/40 mtr SSB any night reminds me of the harm of the "everybody gets a license" mindset. When I have visitors to my shack or even my wife I turn off the audio of my ham radio so not to embarrass my hamradio hobby.

Too many hams enable these clueless hams. Can't program your Baofeng, no problem, can't figure out your DMR codeplug, cry for help and someone will do it for you.  Same thing with FT8. The hardest thing about FT8 is getting everything to work initially. No problem, cry for help on  eham and K0UA will do it for you.

Instead of researching the net and finding the answers or RTFM and then doing it yourself, these clueless hams remain clueless because they get some ham to do it for them.

I have never encountered any menu system that was hard to use, RTFM and boom everything becomes doable. Instead the clueless would rather whine endlessly about the menu systems on eham. 

Stan K9IUQ
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K0UA

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Re: Yaesu FTDX10 Announced
« Reply #84 on: December 19, 2020, 05:49:38 AM »

Woof!..  Did someone pull my chain?  :) Stan, I think you are very opinionated. 

In what industry were you a Union Steward?

I worked in telephony for many years. About 21 as a technician and than another 15 as an engineer the 1 year as a sales puke.
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73  James K0UA

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Re: Yaesu FTDX10 Announced
« Reply #85 on: December 19, 2020, 06:29:52 AM »

Woof!..  Did someone pull my chain?  :) Stan, I think you are very opinionated. 

In what industry were you a Union Steward?

I like pulling your chain James as you are likable and easy to get a response.

I worked for General Mills for 28 years, first as an electrician and the last 16 years as an Instrument Tech. I belonged to the BCTGM Union which is Bakery Confectionery Tobacco Grain Millers Union. The factory I worked at made Breakfast Cereals, Betty Crocker Cake Mixes, Hamburger Helper, Bugles snack products and a few other things you probably got in your pantry. Please keep buying Big G products as they still pay me a pension and supplemental insurance for my Medicare.  ;)

I was a Union Steward for 14 years, serving seven 2 year terms. It was an elective position, After that stint I became an Osha Rep for the Union. All this was in addition to working as an Electrician/Tech.

I enjoyed being a Union Steward, it was rewarding and got me out of a lot of work since it required attending many many meetings which the Company paid me for. Lots of free food in those meetings. The OSHA Rep job was also rewarding, I was responsible for investigating accidents and preventing accidents. This also required many meetings and free food..  :D :D :D

Stan K9IUQ
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K0UA

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Re: Yaesu FTDX10 Announced
« Reply #86 on: December 19, 2020, 06:39:43 AM »

Woof!..  Did someone pull my chain?  :) Stan, I think you are very opinionated. 

In what industry were you a Union Steward?

I like pulling your chain James as you are likable and easy to get a response.

I worked for General Mills for 28 years, first as an electrician and the last 16 years as an Instrument Tech. I belonged to the BCTGM Union which is Bakery Confectionery Tobacco Grain Millers Union. The factoryI worked at made Breakfast Cereals, Betty Crocker Cake Mixes, Hamburger Helper, Bugles snack products and a few other things you probably got in your pantry. Please keep buying Big G products as they still pay me a pension and supplemental insurance for my Medicare.  ;)

I was a  Union Steward for 14 years, serving seven 2 year terms. It was an elective position, After that stint I became an Osha Rep for the Union. All this was in addition to working as an Electrician/Tech.

I enjoyed being a Union Steward, it was rewarding and got me out of a lot of work since it required attending many many meetings which the Company paid me for. Lots of free food in those meetings. The OSHA Rep job was also rewarding, I was responsible for investigating accidents and preventing accidents. This also required many meetings and free food..  :D :D :D

Stan K9IUQ

Wow, sounds like you had a pretty fun career. Especially all that free food and lounging about in those meetings :)

And they pay for your Medicare Supplement too! Wow. After I left Windstream communications, I got my life and health license and sold Medicare Supplements. I am still licensed and appointed with Mutual of Omaha. I sell one once in a while here in retirement. The only downside is taking the stupid "continuing education" every two years.  That is a 16 hour bummer.  Well, this ole dog will go lay back down now, until someone trips over my chain again. :)
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Re: Yaesu FTDX10 Announced
« Reply #87 on: December 19, 2020, 06:50:42 AM »

And they pay for your Medicare Supplement too! Wow.  :)

Yes , I have been very fortunate. I have had fully paid health insurance Blue Cross/Blue Shield for the whole time I worked for Big G and also fully paid in retirement. This includes my wife. I pay nothing for it, it was a Benefit for which I thank the Union Master Contract. I retired at age 55 and could not have done that without the free Insurance. When I became eligible for Medicare, the insurance turned into supplement insurance. 

Of course nothing is free, I worked for many years for that insurance, it was part of my Benefit/Wage package. Thank goodness for Unions.

Stan K9IUQ
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K7JQ

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Re: Yaesu FTDX10 Announced
« Reply #88 on: December 19, 2020, 06:52:20 AM »

Getting back to radio menus and people complaining about them, can you imagine how much more crowded the front panels would be if there was a knob or button for every menu item in today's radios? If not for menus, hams would be crying that the radio can't do this or that ;).

Personally, I find the menu at Cheesecake Factory more difficult to navigate than my radios ;D.

Bob K7JQ
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K9IUQ

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Re: Yaesu FTDX10 Announced
« Reply #89 on: December 19, 2020, 07:02:36 AM »

Getting back to radio menus and people complaining about them, can you imagine how much more crowded the front panels would be if there was a knob or button for every menu item in today's radios? If not for menus, hams would be crying that the radio can't do this or that ;).
Bob K7JQ

IF not for menus we could not afford todays ham radios. Menus save lots of $$$$$$ in building a radio. I saw the same thing happen in industry. Stop and start buttons and control mechanicals of any kind are now on a touch screen with out of sight "menus" saving vast amounts of $$$$ to design, build and maintain.

Stan K9IUQ
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