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WE4B

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Re: AMSAT Ambassador Opportunity
« Reply #15 on: November 21, 2020, 03:26:50 PM »

I hear Rudy Giuliani is looking for staffers ... 202-456-1414. You'd fit right in if hired, AND get yourself on Fox News!

So... the legacy, incumbent AMSAT-NA Board members condone their Ambassadors attacking any members or potential members that may be Republicans? Wow! That must be half the membership or half of potential members? Why does AMSAT-NA allow representatives to chase away members and potential members? This is bizarre!
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K6LCS

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Re: AMSAT Ambassador Opportunity
« Reply #16 on: November 21, 2020, 03:34:21 PM »

>> ... [deflection] ... [lies] ... [no evidence] ... [continuing refusal to answer direct questions] ...

Who said anything about "Republicans?" Attorneys are dedicated to the rule of law ... not political parties.
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Clint Bradford, K6LCS
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WE4B

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Re: AMSAT Ambassador Opportunity
« Reply #17 on: November 21, 2020, 03:41:31 PM »

Tick tock... is anyone who is active in this thread guilty of threatening to sue AMSAT-NA?

Tick tock...
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WE4B

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Re: AMSAT Ambassador Opportunity
« Reply #18 on: November 21, 2020, 04:57:58 PM »

This silence in regards to my question about who has threatened to sue AMSAT-NA is deafening...

Tick tock...
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W9FIB

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Re: AMSAT Ambassador Opportunity
« Reply #19 on: November 21, 2020, 05:10:23 PM »

Oh, I entirely "get it." Without conducting independent research and asking questions of those truly responsible, a couple malcontents have picked up a few followers.
Clint Bradford

Didn't know I was following anyone. I expressed my opinion based on your attitude you show towards others and now including myself. And I drew 3 conclusions only.

1) Your representing a group so you should be respectful of the group. You failed.

2) It is not your job to run some kind of show trial. The purpose of your job, as you stated, is to promote the organization in the best light possible. Again you failed.

3) I do also come to the conclusion you are part of a group leading the organization on a self destructing path.  Otherwise you would be replaced for reasons 1 and 2.

For the most part, that does not take into account the substance of all the back and forth bickering, other then the fact you bicker back when its not your position in the organization to do that. On your own opinion, I could care less. But signing for AMSAT-NA is way above your pay grade.

As I said this is MY opinion only. So don't lump me in with those you obviously can't come to any agreement with. But then again, its not your position to do so.
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73, Stan
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W4HIJ

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Re: AMSAT Ambassador Opportunity
« Reply #20 on: November 21, 2020, 07:17:55 PM »





Why anyone would read the very first post - where the writer states that he broke the rules of a message system, was booted, and now wants to whine - and SUPPORT him in any manner - is also baffling.



I stated I broke the rules by calling you a "known conman and huckster". Even though this is the absolute truth an everyone here knows it, it was deemed a "personal attack" and once again since you seem to be too dense to understand the concept, I was put on "moderated status" not "booted". What got me "booted" was a joking flippant comment about FM satellites. I told AMSAT to "wake me when they launched some real sats...ZZZZ"

I want you to explain to me me "Mr. Ambassador" how that joking comment breaks any rules? News flash, it doesn't. All it did was offend the apparently delicate and thin skinned sensibilities of the BB moderator. I guess maybe, just like you, he doesn't have the technical ability to do anything more than work "easy sats" and I hurt his little feelings but calling AMSAT out for it's penchant for launching a flying repeater every few years and acting like they are actually doing anything of substance should not be grounds for dismissal from the BB. Not by any of the rules I've read. Comments like that should not be censored, nor should praise for the two directors who are demanding transparency and trying to get this organization moving out of it's decade long stagnation. But unfortunately that's exactly the kind of censorship that is happening on a regular basis.

 Why don't you also explain "Mr. Ambassador" why you continue to teach new satellite ops bad operating practices that cause needless QRM on the  "easy sats" you are so fond of?

 Speaking of "breaking rules" How about the harassing E-mails you sent to my personal E -mail "Mr. Ambassador". Would you like to explain those and how they serve any function or resemble any of the behavior outlined in the ambassadors code?
Michael, W4HIJ
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WE4B

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Re: AMSAT Ambassador Opportunity
« Reply #21 on: November 23, 2020, 08:21:59 AM »

Speaking of "breaking rules" How about the harassing E-mails you sent to my personal E -mail "Mr. Ambassador". Would you like to explain those and how they serve any function or resemble any of the behavior outlined in the ambassadors code?

I'm assuming that you aren't going to get an answer to your legitimate question. AMSAT-NA has an Ambassador Code of Conduct but doesn't hold their Ambassadors responsible for upholding the code. Why have rules if nobody has to follow them? Just another example of how AMSAT-NA is operated as a clubhouse and not as a non-profit business.
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WE4B

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Re: AMSAT Ambassador Opportunity
« Reply #22 on: November 23, 2020, 05:13:02 PM »

I am going to try and put this thread back on track. The OP is an AMSAT-NA Ambassador and seems to be recruiting others. As a non-Ambassador, I'm curious what are the requirements to be an AMSAT-NA Ambassador. Is there any kind of background check since an Ambassador can, and will, be around minors? I would welcome any information on what is required to become an AMSAT-NA Ambassador.
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W4HIJ

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Re: AMSAT Ambassador Opportunity
« Reply #23 on: November 25, 2020, 03:21:49 PM »

So no answers to my legitimate questions for "Mr. Ambassador". Of
 course I can't say I'm surprised. Interestingly enough, he did find time to send yet another unwelcome private E mail to me where he gloated about my censorship thread being locked. Actually I thank the mods for letting it go as long as it did as even with his constant attempts at sabotage, it served its purpose of exposing AMSAT censorship and corruption quite well.
 The sad part is that he is clueless to the harm he continues to do to the organization that he so staunchly wants to defend.
73,
Michael, W4HIJ
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WE4B

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Re: AMSAT Ambassador Opportunity
« Reply #24 on: November 25, 2020, 03:38:58 PM »

So no answers to my legitimate questions for "Mr. Ambassador". Of
 course I can't say I'm surprised. Interestingly enough, he did find time to send yet another unwelcome private E mail to me where he gloated about my censorship thread being locked. Actually I thank the mods for letting it go as long as it did as even with his constant attempts at sabotage, it served its purpose of exposing AMSAT censorship and corruption quite well.
 The sad part is that he is clueless to the harm he continues to do to the organization that he so staunchly wants to defend.

If an AMSAT-NA Ambassador is harassing you with unsolicited messages or emails, you need to report him to AMSAT-NA. They should NOT allow their representatives to engage in such behavior.

Happy Thanksgiving and satellite QSOs to all!

http://we4bravo.com
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W4HIJ

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Re: AMSAT Ambassador Opportunity
« Reply #25 on: November 25, 2020, 08:57:56 PM »

So no answers to my legitimate questions for "Mr. Ambassador". Of
 course I can't say I'm surprised. Interestingly enough, he did find time to send yet another unwelcome private E mail to me where he gloated about my censorship thread being locked. Actually I thank the mods for letting it go as long as it did as even with his constant attempts at sabotage, it served its purpose of exposing AMSAT censorship and corruption quite well.
 The sad part is that he is clueless to the harm he continues to do to the organization that he so staunchly wants to defend.

If an AMSAT-NA Ambassador is harassing you with unsolicited messages or emails, you need to report him to AMSAT-NA. They should NOT allow their representatives to engage in such behavior.

Happy Thanksgiving and satellite QSOs to all!

http://we4bravo.com
Well, if I thought it would do one bit of good to report his behavior, I would.
 I am having some PC hardware issues  and I'm reduced to using a tablet right now and am a bit out of my element. Maybe when I get my desktop back, I'll gather up all the e-mails and lodge a formal complaint just for the principal of it but just like everything else it will probably end with ...."You're not a member so screw you." Such a sad state of affairs.
Happy Thanksgiving,
Michael, W4HIJ
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WE4B

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Re: AMSAT Ambassador Opportunity
« Reply #26 on: November 25, 2020, 09:11:14 PM »

Happy Thanksgiving,

Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours!

http://we4bravo.com
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WE4B

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Re: AMSAT Ambassador Opportunity
« Reply #27 on: November 30, 2020, 03:04:00 PM »

I currently maintain a blog on my website:

http://we4bravo.com

Most of my blog entries are in regards to AMSAT-NA. My latest blog entries are in regards to a formal complaint I have filed with AMSAT-NA in regards to harassment from an AMSAT-NA Ambassador. It’s obvious from the harassment and the lack of action from AMSAT-NA to control their representative that the AMSAT-NA Ambassador program is not worthy of anyone taking it seriously. Basically, it’s an outreach of the legacy, incumbent Board members and their puppet cronies to harass anyone that doesn’t share their viewpoints.

The entire amateur radio community sees what happens within AMSAT-NA and, I can assure all, that AMSAT-NA is not viewed in a positive light.

I encourage anyone that is currently, or has been, harassed by an AMSAT-NA representative to come forward and also file a complaint with AMSAT-NA. You can, and will, help others avoid these toxic individuals that continue to drag AMSAT-NA out of orbit.

Please bookmark my blog where you can always read real, not fake and edited, information concerning the shenanigans of AMSAT-NA, it’s legacy incumbent Board members and their representatives.

At this point, I’m not sure why anyone would want to be associated with the AMSAT-NA Ambassador program.
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KE4AL

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Re: AMSAT Ambassador Opportunity
« Reply #28 on: November 30, 2020, 08:05:17 PM »

I can name several individual who have frivolously threatened legal action against AMSAT.  In fact, I have three emails in my inbox right now, threatening such, and, surprise, they are all from WE4B.

On November 24, 2020, WE4B filed a complaint against Clint Bradford, K6LCS, alleging that Mr. Bradford "continues to harass me through unsolicited private messages via social media platforms and by sending unsolicited messages to my personal email account."  In support of his accusation, WE4B submitted one PM and one email (two total messages).

WE4B's complaint was summarily dismissed, because sending an email or a private message to someone, in and of itself, is NOT harassment; especially when the recipient publicly states on his personal website, "If I can ever answer any questions that you may have, my email address can be found by clicking on the contact tab here on my web site."  In addition, the "harassing" messages presented contained no threatening or harassing statements, as defined by The Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation's Non-Discrimination/Harassment Policy or any legal definition of harassment.  Apparently, the mere fact that Mr Bradford sent a message to WE4B constitutes harassment.

FYI - I am not revealing any confidential information here, as WE4B has already made it public on to his "I hate AMSAT" blog site.

In WE4B's three emails to me, he threatens legal action if I do not take action against Mr. Bradford.

If WE4B does not want to receive emails from Mr. Bradford, do not read them or, better yet, block his email address.  It really is that simple.

WE4B has an established history of making false and malicious statements, harassing disabled amateur radio operators, trolling individuals and organizations, and creating a fake website to mock Mr. Bradford.  This latest accusation is not different.

Let's put all of this pettiness, finger pointing, and name calling aside and get back to finding ways to advance amateur radio science.

Robert Bankston, KE4AL
AMSAT President
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WE4B

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Re: AMSAT Ambassador Opportunity
« Reply #29 on: November 30, 2020, 10:25:01 PM »

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I can name several individual who have frivolously threatened legal action against AMSAT.  In fact, I have three emails in my inbox right now, threatening such, and, surprise, they are all from WE4B.

Feel free to publish the emails as I have already published them. I have not threatened legal action. I have stated that I will seek proper counsel in order to protect myself from unsolicited harassment by an AMSAT-NA representative. Seeking counsel can take many different forms, not necessarily legal actions.

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On November 24, 2020, WE4B filed a complaint against Clint Bradford, K6LCS, alleging that Mr. Bradford "continues to harass me through unsolicited private messages via social media platforms and by sending unsolicited messages to my personal email account."  In support of his accusation, WE4B submitted one PM and one email (two total messages).

WE4B's complaint was summarily dismissed, because sending an email or a private message to someone, in and of itself, is NOT harassment; especially when the recipient publicly states on his personal website, "If I can ever answer any questions that you may have, my email address can be found by clicking on the contact tab here on my web site."  In addition, the "harassing" messages presented contained no threatening or harassing statements, as defined by The Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation's Non-Discrimination/Harassment Policy or any legal definition of harassment.  Apparently, the mere fact that Mr Bradford sent a message to WE4B constitutes harassment.

Did you follow the published AMSAT-NA policy of investigating the formal complaint? No, you did not. Without an investigation to gather information, you violated published policies of AMSAT-NA. This is a fact. You did not do what should have been done. You did not follow the published policies of AMSAT-NA. These are facts and cannot be debated. It's nice that you keep tabs on my personal website. Should I feel honored? I mean, after all, there's thousands of amateur radio web sites out there to visit and you choose to bookmark mine.

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FYI - I am not revealing any confidential information here, as WE4B has already made it public on to his "I hate AMSAT" blog site.

I didn't know I had an "I hate AMSAT web site". I am a paid AMSAT-NA member and I am well within my rights to speak my mind about said organization. Last time I checked, this is America and Americans are allowed to have their own thoughts and opinions. Are you saying that people must bow down to the powers that be at AMSAT-NA and not have alternate thoughts or opinions? By the way, if I "hate AMSAT" why would I pay membership dues? As Joe Biden would say, "C'mon man".

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In WE4B's three emails to me, he threatens legal action if I do not take action against Mr. Bradford.

Once again, I have simply told you I will seek counsel. Counsel does not mean legal actions. Why are you so hung-up on legal actions? Is it because legacy, incumbent Board members were threatened with legal action by two incoming Board members because the legacy, incumbent Board members were involved in a conspiracy? Is the leadership 'gun shy' now? Counsel can, and does, take many forms. Sometimes it might just involve sitting down with another person and having a discussion. You cannot produce anything where I have threatened legal action against AMSAT-NA and for you to state that here is ludicrous. By the way, how many unsolicited, harassing emails should an AMSAT-NA member have to receive from an AMSAT-NA representative before you consider it to be unacceptable? Oddly enough, I have often spoken out against things the ARRL does but have never received any unsolicited, harassing email from any ARRL representative.

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If WE4B does not want to receive emails from Mr. Bradford, do not read them or, better yet, block his email address.  It really is that simple.

Better yet, why don't we have AMSAT-NA 'leadership' actually follow the AMSAT-NA published policies and do an investigation. It is sad to see you state here on a forum that is read worldwide that AMSAT-NA will not police their representatives. Are you seriously stating that it's up to members and non-members to accept being harassed by AMSAT-NA representatives? It's not just me that is being harassed. I have given you examples of others that are being harassed by AMSAT-NA representatives. Your way of thinking is certainly not a proper way to operate a business.

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WE4B has an established history of making false and malicious statements, harassing disabled amateur radio operators, trolling individuals and organizations, and creating a fake website to mock Mr. Bradford.  This latest accusation is not different.

Maybe it's time to release screenshots to the public of the LEO Analog Freaks group for the world to see. What would they see? Would they would see the current AMSAT-NA President involved in some discussions that I don't think he wants the world to see? Am I right? Has the current President ever mocked a certain ham family's daughters because they used a dry erase board as an aid when making QSOs at Hamcation? Has the current President ever mocked other amateurs' speech impediments on Twitter? Has the current President ever been involved in any conspiracies against AMSAT-NA members? I'm just asking hypothetical questions; I'm not making accusations. Now, how the heck does someone create a "fake website"? Any web site that I have created is real and tangible. What website have I created that's fake? I don't have to create any website to mock someone. I can post plenty of links to content created by current and past AMSAT-NA leadership members that have been extremely hateful to AMSAT-NA Ambassador Bradford but now these 'leaders' have empowered AMSAT-NA Ambassador Bradford to harass both members and non-members. How do I create emails from an AMSAT-NA to myself that are unsolicited and harassing in nature? For the record, I continue to receive unsolicited, harassing emails from an AMSAT-NA Ambassador and keep forwarding them to you. It is up to you to follow the published policies of AMSAT-NA. As a member that is being harassed, I've done my part by reporting the issue, especially since I have documented that it is also happening to others.

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Let's put all of this pettiness, finger pointing, and name calling aside and get back to finding ways to advance amateur radio science.

Did you really just say that? I mean, after all, you just pointed fingers at me and were quite petty. To say that after stating untruths is laughable. If you want to avoid more bad press, that you have stated in an AMSAT-NA Journal is detrimental to AMSAT-NA, may I sincerely and humbly suggest that the AMSAT-NA start following the bylaws and policies of the organization. It really is that simple.

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