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KG4RUL

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Updating EMail Address with FCC
« on: December 04, 2020, 04:46:02 AM »

To comply with the FCC  latest requirement, I went to the FCC ULS system and entered my Email address in the on-line 605 form.  When i check the downloaded reference copy of the application, it DID NOT reflect the added Email address!  Is this an example of how the FCC will use the $50.00 fee they are proposing for amateur radio licensing actions?  ???
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W9IQ

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Re: Updating EMail Address with FCC
« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2020, 04:49:15 AM »

Your application form is a matter of public record. I would suspect they withhold the email address in order to protect your privacy in that regard.

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Re: Updating EMail Address with FCC
« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2020, 06:39:55 PM »

Your application form is a matter of public record. I would suspect they withhold the email address in order to protect your privacy in that regard.

- Glenn W9IQ

Why would you think that?
Postal mailing addresses are available in the ULS.
Why would e-mail addresses be any more private?

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KG4RUL

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Re: Updating EMail Address with FCC
« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2020, 05:14:07 AM »

So, if the Email address is considered 'private' and the reference copy does not show it, HOW would you know that is correctly recorded in the FCC database?
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W9IQ

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Re: Updating EMail Address with FCC
« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2020, 05:17:34 AM »

They are in transition to requiring a valid email address in order to maintain a valid license. My guess is that you will find your email address in your FRN page.

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KG4RUL

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Re: Updating EMail Address with FCC
« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2020, 06:00:58 AM »

Just got an Email from the FCC with a PDF of the Official Copy of my license.  Since it came to the correct address I must assume that the Email update was accepted.  As usual, a Federal Government agency is operating in 'cluster' mode.  AND, if we pay $50.00 it WILL be MUCH BETTER in the future - Yeah, Right!
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W9IQ

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Re: Updating EMail Address with FCC
« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2020, 06:05:14 AM »

The email with the official copy of your license is one of the new features. With this capability, they will no longer honor a request for a paper copy of any kind. It is a good modernization/efficiency move on their part.

It is important to keep a valid email address on file. If they get a bounced email, they can invalidate your license.

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W9IQ

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Re: Updating EMail Address with FCC
« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2020, 06:23:15 AM »

Your application form is a matter of public record. I would suspect they withhold the email address in order to protect your privacy in that regard.

- Glenn W9IQ

Why would you think that?
Postal mailing addresses are available in the ULS.
Why would e-mail addresses be any more private?

The simple answer is that if your email address is published on a website, the spam bots will find it and your inbox will be flooded by spam.

Your mailing address is generally a matter of public record across multiple government agencies so there is no longer an expectation of privacy.

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W9IQ

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Re: Updating EMail Address with FCC
« Reply #8 on: December 05, 2020, 06:51:10 AM »

I just checked my FRN information and there is an email address field in the record. This must have been there for some time already as my email address was correctly populated. I think the last time I updated my FRN was about 5 years ago.

The new regulation requires that you maintain a valid email address beginning mid 2021.

- Glenn W9IQ
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KA1VF

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Re: Updating EMail Address with FCC
« Reply #9 on: December 05, 2020, 10:30:21 AM »

It has been several years since I logged into FCC (ULS) system,
could somebody please document the minimum keystrokes to
get into just the previously mentioned FRN page for email info.

           73, and tnx
                Bob
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W9IQ

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Re: Updating EMail Address with FCC
« Reply #10 on: December 05, 2020, 03:25:54 PM »

If you know your FRN and password, go to the FCC CORES login page.

Bob, your FRN is 0017212127.

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KF6QEX

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Re: Updating EMail Address with FCC
« Reply #11 on: December 05, 2020, 05:08:23 PM »

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... they will no longer honor a request for a paper copy of any kind. It is a good modernization/efficiency move on their part.
Ther is a preference checkbox hiding somewhere in the account maintenance page to request paper copy of the official license.
The above information is current as of a week ago when my paper copy from the FCC arrived. It looks identical to the official copy printed on my laser printer.
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W9IQ

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Re: Updating EMail Address with FCC
« Reply #12 on: December 05, 2020, 05:21:45 PM »

The FCC will eliminate paper licenses mid 2021. At that time, you will only be able to get a copy via email that you must print.

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Re: Updating EMail Address with FCC
« Reply #13 on: December 06, 2020, 07:58:57 AM »

The email with the official copy of your license is one of the new features. With this capability, they will no longer honor a request for a paper copy of any kind. It is a good modernization/efficiency move on their part.

It is important to keep a valid email address on file. If they get a bounced email, they can invalidate your license.

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Source?

I don't anything about that in the R&O or the language of the revised sections of Part 97.
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KF6QEX

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Re: Updating EMail Address with FCC
« Reply #14 on: December 06, 2020, 12:38:29 PM »

I don't know why everything alswys has to get complicated every time but here it is:

http://www.arrl.org/files/file/VEs/Obtain%20License%20Copy%202019.pdf

I marked bold the interesting parts:

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How to Obtain an Official FCC License Copy ==================================================================================================The FCC went paperless in February 2015.  In order to streamline procedures and save money, the FCC stopped routinelyprinting and mailing licenses.There are a number of   ways a license holder can obtain an official copy of   their license. The official license will displaythe FCC logo and the watermark "Official Copy" will be printed across each page of   an official authorization from FCC.1.  Download and Print License:  The licensee can log into the FCC ULS License Manager Systemhttps://www.fcc.gov/wireless/systems-utilities/universal-licensing-system with their FRN and password to ‘Downloadthe Electronic Authorization’ of   the official license. On the ‘Download Authorizations’ page the license holder will addtheir call sign to the ‘Authorizations to Download’ and then click download. The PDF of   the license can be saved to a computer and printed later or   the file can be opened and printed immediately.2. Login and Set Paper Preferences:  The licensee can log into the FCC ULS License Manager Systemhttps://www.fcc.gov/wireless/systems-utilities/universal-licensing-system with their FRN and password and choose‘Set Paper Authorization Preferences’.  This option determines whether a user will receive paper authorizations (printedlicense and FRN information) from the FCC for future mailings.On the ‘Set Paper Authorization Preferences’ page, the license holder would select either YES or   NO and then clickSAVE. By selecting YES, you will continue to receive paper authorizations printed and mailed by the FCC. By selecting NO,you will not receive authorizations printed and mailed from the FCC. This preference will affect all grantedauthorizations on this FRN.3.  Receive License via Email:  When modifying, renewing or   requesting a duplicate copy of   the license, a licensee whoalready has an FCC Registration Number (FRN) and provides a valid e-mail address under “Applicant Information” whilelogged in to the ULS system will receive an official ULS-generated electronic authorization via e-mail.The action of   adding a valid e-mail address into the FCC system can also be performed by a VEC filing new, upgraded,modified or   renewed licenses on behalf of   applicants. All exam applicants should include a valid email address on theirNCVEC 605 form, in order to receive their license electronically.4.  Contact FCC: Licensees may also contact FCC Support via the web, telephone or   mail to request paper licenses.Please note that FCC stopped using distinctive paper stock to produce hard copy licenses and has been printing these on“standard, white recycled paper.” The Bureau noted that the distinctive paper stock it had used was six times moreexpensive than the plain recycled paper it now uses.An unofficial "reference copy" can always be printed from the FCC’s ULS License database: https://www.fcc.gov/wireless/systems-utilities/universal-licensing-systemLicensees can also find these instructions on ARRL’s Obtain a License Copy web page www.arrl.org/obtain-license-copy.FCC Contact Information: Mail:  FCC – Attn: Amateur Manager, 1270 Fairfield Rd,  Gettysburg, PA 17325Web Support:esupport.fcc.govTelephone:  877-480-3201 FCC Paperless January 2019

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and from the horse's mouth:
https://www.fcc.gov/how-obtain-official-authorizations-uls

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ULS currently provides both a temporary and a permanent link on the License Manager homepage to download current official authorizations in Active status and to change your Paper Authorization Preference. The temporary links, "Change your paper authorization preference for licenses“ and "download your official electronic authorizations now,” can be found on a green bar across the top of the License Manager homepage. The permanent links, “Download Electronic Authorizations,” and "Set Paper Authorization Preference" can be found in the navigation bar on the left side of the License Manager homepage.

Let the hair splitting begin!
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