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W4AEG

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QRN on 40 meters and no answers to CQ on 80 meters
« on: December 15, 2020, 05:09:37 PM »

Why is there so much QRN on 40 meters compared to 80 for the last 4 weeks?  80 Meters is clear as a bell.   Why is no one answering for CQ  80 meters?
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K6SDW

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Re: QRN on 40 meters and no answers to CQ on 80 meters
« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2020, 05:24:41 PM »

On your second question, check FT8 signals, lot'sa cq's and activity....any band that is open

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Re: QRN on 40 meters and no answers to CQ on 80 meters
« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2020, 06:27:33 PM »

No QRN in GA on 80m. Try calling CQ on CW and check reverse beacon service.
Somehow 80m is less popular than 40 and 160m on CW.
Ignacy NO9E
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K6AER

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Re: QRN on 40 meters and no answers to CQ on 80 meters
« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2020, 07:01:11 PM »

How much power are you running and what is your antenna? My 80 meter antenna is a dipole at 70 feet.

Many hams have a high noise levels especially near a city and their noise floor might be covering up your signal. I live in the desert with a very low noise level. Most of the time I have to run the amplifier for the station to hear me on the other end due to their high noise levels in the city. My noise level is about S2 on 80 meters.

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Re: QRN on 40 meters and no answers to CQ on 80 meters
« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2020, 06:46:47 AM »

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My noise level is about S2 on 80 meters.

Ah, I vaguely remember that - 45 years ago, before anyone had thought of switching power supplies, broadband internet (well, actually, just internet) or LEDs! Bliss! Mind you, everyone was on VHF analogue TV and I fought a running battle with my neighbours who, for some strange reason, wanted to watch the football!

Martin (G8FXC)
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W4AEG

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Re: QRN on 40 meters and no answers to CQ on 80 meters
« Reply #5 on: December 16, 2020, 04:40:21 PM »

Using SSB only 100W into and EFHW  myantenna 8010 inverted L  about 50'. Living here on a farm with no close neighbors,  I do have 2 high voltage transmissions lines about 500 yards from the house.  Noise has not been problem on 40 meters before. All the other bands are virtually noise free. 
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K1JRF

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Re: QRN on 40 meters and no answers to CQ on 80 meters
« Reply #6 on: December 19, 2020, 10:41:49 PM »

In my short 4 years in the hobby I've not found 80 voice to be a good place to call cq. First I think most people use the band to check into thier nightly gallbladder net . Not many or any  folks tuning up and down the band looking for some calling cq like I see on 20m during the day and evenings.
Or one can try to call cq but then it seems to draw the sad and lonely and nasty types that will start throwing carriers or other qrm and make such cq calling impossible or no fun.
But an amp would probably help get some replies to your cqs. When I call cq on 20 during the day the number of responses when running barefoot vs 500 w is significant. Signal is covering more area and your s/n is better.
Anyway just my thoughts. Hope to catch u calling cq some place.
John K1JRF
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Re: QRN on 40 meters and no answers to CQ on 80 meters
« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2020, 11:58:29 AM »

In my short 4 years in the hobby I've not found 80 voice to be a good place to call cq. First I think most people use the band to check into thier nightly gallbladder net . Not many or any  folks tuning up and down the band looking for some calling cq like I see on 20m during the day and evenings.
Or one can try to call cq but then it seems to draw the sad and lonely and nasty types that will start throwing carriers or other qrm and make such cq calling impossible or no fun.
But an amp would probably help get some replies to your cqs. When I call cq on 20 during the day the number of responses when running barefoot vs 500 w is significant. Signal is covering more area and your s/n is better.
Anyway just my thoughts. Hope to catch u calling cq some place.
John K1JRF

Yes, these observations are also my observations. I was testing my new amp last night and called CQ on the low end of the phone band on 80. I got a reply and we had a nice chat, both of us running around a kilowatt. I went to the exciter (7300 at 100 watts) and he said he could tell I was there, but nearly unreadable. He would not have answered my 100 watt CQ for sure. Conditions were not particularly good in my area last night. The other station said he had about an S9 noise level.  But I believe all the observations you have made are pretty much what I have seen also.  75 meter phone is very inhabited by a lot of guys in groups or cliques. There doesn't seem to be a lot of one on one QSO's. and when there is, you will likely need some power to "defend" you frequency and make yourself heard.
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Re: QRN on 40 meters and no answers to CQ on 80 meters
« Reply #8 on: December 28, 2020, 12:28:21 PM »

In my short 4 years in the hobby I've not found 80 voice to be a good place to call cq. First I think most people use the band to check into thier nightly gallbladder net . Not many or any  folks tuning up and down the band looking for some calling cq like I see on 20m during the day and evenings.
Or one can try to call cq but then it seems to draw the sad and lonely and nasty types that will start throwing carriers or other qrm and make such cq calling impossible or no fun.
But an amp would probably help get some replies to your cqs. When I call cq on 20 during the day the number of responses when running barefoot vs 500 w is significant. Signal is covering more area and your s/n is better.
Anyway just my thoughts. Hope to catch u calling cq some place.
John K1JRF


I'm a ARRL Tech specialist and I'm here to help. 

Stand by and LISTEN UP. 

Calling CQ on 80 meters is about as dumb as picking up a hooker who turns out to be a cop.  Then having to explain it to your wife. 

Do you have a Elmer? 

Do you listen to 80 meters?

Not sure about your noise. 

Do you have common sense? 

First get common sense then find a Elmer who has way more than you do and knows about Ham Radio.

P.S.  NEVER EVER call CQ on 80 meters.  It's reverse CB Radio. 

Good luck.     
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K1JRF

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Re: QRN on 40 meters and no answers to CQ on 80 meters
« Reply #9 on: December 28, 2020, 08:48:33 PM »

Kbk*******
May I suggest that u try to follow the old saying....attack the idea or concept, not the person. Makes for better forums and exchanges of ideas, even differing ones.
John k1jrf
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Re: QRN on 40 meters and no answers to CQ on 80 meters
« Reply #10 on: January 02, 2021, 11:04:18 AM »

Kbk*******
May I suggest that u try to follow the old saying....attack the idea or concept, not the person. Makes for better forums and exchanges of ideas, even differing ones.
John k1jrf

The idea of calling CQ on 80 meters is idiotic.  40 is getting worse.  It's a click of people who will not let you in their group and have the band tied up.  Try listening on a frequency for 20 minutes on 40 or 80.  If nothing is heard try asking if the frequency is in use.  I ask twice and usually by that time or when I start calling CQ someone will say the frequency is in use.  But nobody is talking.  If you persist they will bring their buddys on the air and run you off.  They think it's their channel.
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