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NA4IT

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Re: Should E-Ham have a seperate catagory for CB'rs to post in?
« Reply #15 on: January 22, 2021, 04:13:28 AM »

First of all, how many of you were CB'ers before you became a ham?

That said, I believe we should welcome them to any thread they want to visit. Having a separate category might be good also, because with the current state of the world, a lot of people are thinking of having some type of local communication. That would give them a place to discuss what they are doing among themselves.

I was deeply involved, even as a kid, in electronics. I saved half dollars to buy a base CB. I learned about wire antennas. People still remember me as a kid, having the best signal on the air, running 5 watts. That experience got me into ham radio.

Sadly, some people don't like knowledgeable people in amateur radio. I kept up 5 repeaters and a club shack with packet, APRS and Winlink digital on VHF and HF for many years. A certain group wanted me out, because they couldn't do anything, and caused me to leave radio, maybe even forever. And what have they done? Well, I won't go there.

I sold all my equipment, and can't afford to buy any equipment now, and frankly, might go the CB route if I did.

Amateur radio can be the most divisive group of people there are. The division needs to stop.

73, Good Buddy.
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K1FBI

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Re: Should E-Ham have a seperate catagory for CB'rs to post in?
« Reply #16 on: January 22, 2021, 04:38:05 AM »

First of all, how many of you were CB'ers before you became a ham?

That said, I believe we should welcome them to any thread they want to visit. Having a separate category might be good also, because with the current state of the world, a lot of people are thinking of having some type of local communication. That would give them a place to discuss what they are doing among themselves.

I was deeply involved, even as a kid, in electronics. I saved half dollars to buy a base CB. I learned about wire antennas. People still remember me as a kid, having the best signal on the air, running 5 watts. That experience got me into ham radio.

Sadly, some people don't like knowledgeable people in amateur radio. I kept up 5 repeaters and a club shack with packet, APRS and Winlink digital on VHF and HF for many years. A certain group wanted me out, because they couldn't do anything, and caused me to leave radio, maybe even forever. And what have they done? Well, I won't go there.

I sold all my equipment, and can't afford to buy any equipment now, and frankly, might go the CB route if I did.

Amateur radio can be the most divisive group of people there are. The division needs to stop.

73, Good Buddy.
Well if you gave up all your equipment and the hobby, what on earth are you doing on this site? Other than trolling!
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K1VSK

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Re: Should E-Ham have a seperate catagory for CB'rs to post in?
« Reply #17 on: January 22, 2021, 06:19:34 AM »

The uppittiness of some on this thread is just sickening.

What do CBers discuss that anyone here would like or need?  Maybe, just maybe, they would browse the rest of the forum and convert to the amateur service.

Maybe you'd like to experience the clean audio revolution some are experimenting with.  Positive peak stretchers, compressors and other goodies.

CB has expanded to be pretty much a technical experimentation zone.  Don't get me wrong, there are still the good buddies......  But few of the places I traveled have anything that will rival 3840 or the 2 meter zoos.  Or the 40 and 20 meter absolute ghettos.

Read the NEC?  I know of more than a few licensed electricians on 11 meters.  Tell ya what.  I've run a few 4.5 to 6 mw turbines offshore on oil rigs. 

Or how about ICD705 SCIF design.  I work with those now.  Buildings for F35 avionics testing, F18 and other planes.  Guess we have something else in common, Carl.

It's no wonder a lot of CBers don't want to become licensed ham operators.  The AHole attitudes of what would we possibly want them around for are so exciting.

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Not sure what is worse - “uppittiness” or feigned moral superiority.

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KF5LJW

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Re: Should E-Ham have a seperate catagory for CB'rs to post in?
« Reply #18 on: January 22, 2021, 07:14:01 AM »

Truth sure does hurt. Hard for hams to accept CB'ers get more respect and do way more for the country. Today in the public eye , hams are two senile old bald men arguing over a comb.

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K4PIH

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Re: Should E-Ham have a seperate catagory for CB'rs to post in?
« Reply #19 on: January 22, 2021, 07:24:23 AM »

I think it would be a great idea to have a CB forum here. Yeah your are going to get some "rotten apples" but how is that different from some of the comments already in this thread? Back in the day when I started out on CB, I knew many who were just as or more technically capable as any ham I've met to date, so to lump them all in the same basket is profiling. I started out on CB and morphed over to ham as a military person in communications. I still run CB here the shack and on the road. So to all you snotty nosed hams, no wonder CB'ers don't want to become hams, as long as you keep spewing your elitist attitudes. Radio is Radio!
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K1FBI

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Re: Should E-Ham have a seperate catagory for CB'rs to post in?
« Reply #20 on: January 22, 2021, 08:03:29 AM »

I think it would be a great idea to have a CB forum here. Yeah your are going to get some "rotten apples" but how is that different from some of the comments already in this thread? Back in the day when I started out on CB, I knew many who were just as or more technically capable as any ham I've met to date, so to lump them all in the same basket is profiling. I started out on CB and morphed over to ham as a military person in communications. I still run CB here the shack and on the road. So to all you snotty nosed hams, no wonder CB'ers don't want to become hams, as long as you keep spewing your elitist attitudes. Radio is Radio!

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KA1CNK

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Re: Should E-Ham have a seperate catagory for CB'rs to post in?
« Reply #21 on: January 22, 2021, 08:08:24 AM »

There're probably some interesting CB topics to discuss, but there's so much CB related stuff that's questionable; external amps, channel expansion, freebanders, dubious adjustments, echo and other noise effects.....   Lots of stuff most hams disapprove of.  Heck, technically CBers aren't even supposed to repair or otherwise tinker with their radios while hams are allowed to build their own if the choose to.

I used to have both rigs in my vehicles.   No longer.  Maybe it's not so bad as in the 70s and 80s?  The noise was usually so bad if I wanted to call my base I'd have to use the 2 meter autopatch to tell someone to turn the base on.
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K4PIH

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Re: Should E-Ham have a seperate catagory for CB'rs to post in?
« Reply #22 on: January 22, 2021, 08:16:46 AM »

That's the point. You can find all of the same things on several amateur frequencies. No IDs, over driven microphones, dirty amplifiers, people with lower class licenses operating on higher class frequencies, out of band pirates, pirate radio, it goes on and on.
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W4KYR

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Re: Should E-Ham have a seperate catagory for CB'rs to post in?
« Reply #23 on: January 22, 2021, 08:18:23 AM »


Why do we need a separate CB forum when we could always the use the Misc sub forum for talking about CB and other services like FRS?

Having said that, I see CB radio as just another form of communication much like FRS is.  CB does has have other advantages besides being unlicensed. One can communicate several dozen miles ground wave using SSB and a decent antenna. Or up to hundreds, perhaps thousands of miles under skip conditions even with a stock SSB rig.  There are millions of rigs out there and the chances of reaching someone during some emergency are fairly good.


Generally speaking, I think hams should have other communication services and modes at their disposal.  If you have a couple of FRS, CB or even 49 mhz license free radios to lend out to neighbors after an extended power outage due to a storm related damage.  It might give them a sense of security in that they are no longer totally cutoff from communications.
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Re: Should E-Ham have a seperate catagory for CB'rs to post in?
« Reply #24 on: January 22, 2021, 09:50:55 AM »

external amps, channel expansion, freebanders, dubious adjustments, echo and other noise effects.....   

Are you talking about hams or CB? Both do the exact same thing. The difference today is CB serves the country, and ham only serves old bald men arguing over a comb.
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Re: Should E-Ham have a seperate catagory for CB'rs to post in?
« Reply #25 on: January 22, 2021, 10:00:21 AM »

LJW, time to turn in your license.
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Re: Should E-Ham have a seperate catagory for CB'rs to post in?
« Reply #26 on: January 22, 2021, 10:53:03 AM »

I have to assume the author of this post meant 'separate' as 'seperate' is not a word.
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Re: Should E-Ham have a seperate catagory for CB'rs to post in?
« Reply #27 on: January 22, 2021, 11:17:41 AM »

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KBKZ2105 (SUPER TROLL) is the only person who I ever placed on my ignore list and what a blessing it has been!

He placed me on his ignore list but constantly refers to me in his posts.  I don't get it. 

Yeah lets have a CB forum.  I agree with you guys. 
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Re: Should E-Ham have a seperate catagory for CB'rs to post in?
« Reply #28 on: January 22, 2021, 11:32:54 AM »

"I used to have both rigs in my vehicles.   No longer.  Maybe it's not so bad as in the 70s and 80s?  The noise was usually so bad if I wanted to call my base I'd have to use the 2 meter autopatch to tell someone to turn the base on"

That is why reputable manufacturers of "cb" radios that actually made "cb" models for its actual legal and legitimate purpose offered "selective call systems" as a plugin option for their product.
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Re: Should E-Ham have a seperate catagory for CB'rs to post in?
« Reply #29 on: January 22, 2021, 11:41:47 AM »

"One can communicate several dozen miles ground wave using SSB and a decent antenna."

That is not true.  Ground wave does not even exist at "cb" frequencies, nor any other HF frequency.

Ground wave is only of any significance on 160 meters and lower frequencies.
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