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ZL1BBW

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IC7610 New one in the pipeline?
« on: February 03, 2021, 01:39:16 PM »

I am more than happy with my 7610.

Just wondering is there a new model in the pipeline? does anyone know or have an inkling.

I do not know what else they could do to make it much better, especially on CW it seems to do everything plus a bit more for me.

Just wondering if I can spend some more of my dosh before its time for the OPH and the kids get the dosh.

Thanks  Gavin.
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K6AER

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Re: IC7610 New one in the pipeline?
« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2021, 02:40:55 PM »

What is your antenna situation? I would optimize that before pouring more money into a high end radio.
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ZL1BBW

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Re: IC7610 New one in the pipeline?
« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2021, 03:47:45 PM »

What is your antenna situation? I would optimize that before pouring more money into a high end radio.

Monobander on tower, going to put another tower with 15m monobander on it. slopers on lower bands, and T on 160, dont think I can legally change much on the aerial front.

OM2000+ Amp so already at legal limit there.

No interest whatsoever at all in computer generated modes and dont do much phone either.

Very quiet rural location, no other amateurs within 10 kms of me, and that is only one.

So just wondering if there is going to be a 7620.

Cheers  Gavin
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Re: IC7610 New one in the pipeline?
« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2021, 06:37:48 PM »

We run the same setup both rig and amp. CW is incredible and don’t think it’ll get much better than that for quite some time.

Enjoy it!

73
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ZL1BBW

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Re: IC7610 New one in the pipeline?
« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2021, 06:56:26 PM »

We run the same setup both rig and amp. CW is incredible and don’t think it’ll get much better than that for quite some time.

Enjoy it!

73

Funny enough, used to have a L4B before the OM2000, picked up a Collins 30L1 at our local junk sale the other week, so that has become the spare.

Like the bottle of Jamesons in the QRZ pic.

Take care see you about on CW.
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Re: IC7610 New one in the pipeline?
« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2021, 07:08:44 PM »

Gavin, great set up don't think you really need to change anything unless you want to try a RGO ONE radio, bet it will beat your 7610 a pure radio! Anyway wonder if you ever came across my mentor g3rpb (sk) Keith Spicer? cheers Geoff w6uxb/g3uxb
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ZL1BBW

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Re: IC7610 New one in the pipeline?
« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2021, 07:49:58 PM »

Gavin, great set up don't think you really need to change anything unless you want to try a RGO ONE radio, bet it will beat your 7610 a pure radio! Anyway wonder if you ever came across my mentor g3rpb (sk) Keith Spicer? cheers Geoff w6uxb/g3uxb

No, but yr G call sounds familiar, was G3YCP, mentors were G6YJ and for my loe of QRO I can only blame Mac G3OEM sk.

Had a quick loook at the RGo, sounds nice.

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VR2AX

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Re: IC7610 New one in the pipeline?
« Reply #7 on: February 04, 2021, 06:39:33 AM »

Anyway wonder if you ever came across my mentor g3rpb (sk) Keith Spicer?

Geoff, I knew Keith G3RPB back in 1971-1973 when he and I both worked in the same establishment just north of London, although in different units. He was a real gentleman and had a cracking 160 signal! He would occasionally turn up at the local radio club often accompanied by Nev, G3RFS, often en route to a more exciting club in the west end.. Lost contact with him and others after I quit early 1974.
Wyn VR2AX / GW3YGH
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WB8LBZ

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Re: IC7610 New one in the pipeline?
« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2021, 06:55:58 PM »

I'm guessing them 7610 is not going anywhere for some time. The 7300 is more likely to get an upgrade to have the features of the 705 (since they figured it out) and maybe get the new model number to go with the added features. How about a 7305 or 7310? It might be years until the 7300 cow is fully milked (I can say that as I grew up on a farm)

73, Larry  WB8LBZ
El Paso, TX
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N6YFM

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Re: IC7610 New one in the pipeline?
« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2021, 11:03:45 AM »

I'm guessing them 7610 is not going anywhere for some time.

Correct.   There are not enough hams in the market to fund a development/production cycle every year.
If you look at the number of years between HF rig introductions by Icom, or Kenwood, or Yaesu, it ranges
from 3 to 6 years per new HF rig.

Samsung can design and sell a new phone every year, since they sell a minimum of  50 to 100 million units,
which nicely covers profit and R&D for the next phone.   But there are only 750,000 licensed hams in the USA.
And of course these radios are sold internationally, BUT, for example, of the 750,000 hams in the USA, how many
do you think are VHF/EMCOMM only, and how many do you think are ACTIVE on HF, and have the retirement budget
to purchase a new $2500+ radio each time one is introduced?   You begin to see that a manufacturer might be
LUCKY to sell 20,000 radios.    So the product cycle for HF radios will spread out by multiple years.

Notice, for example, that AT the price band and feature set of the Icom 7300, there has not been a new model
introduced since 2016 (5 years).     I would expect the Icom 7610, in it's price and feature band, to also last
at least that long.

Additionally, notice that performance for ALL the HF radios currently on the market has MORE than enough
sensitivity and digital features (LAN, USB, CIV, Sound Card, accessory socket) than you could ever need,
but the sunspot cycle is on the upswing.   So it could be argued that there is really no need for a new or
better HF rig in the next several years, since your current one is going to "seem" better each year now
until the next solar maximum.

The current models by Kenwood, Yaesu, Icom, Elecraft, Flex, all have enough features, sensitivity, and
selectivity to do a fine job.   Bring on the sunspots.

Neal
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VE3WGO

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Re: IC7610 New one in the pipeline?
« Reply #10 on: February 15, 2021, 11:09:20 AM »

The IC-7610 was announced in spring 2017, so it's probably another year or so before anything new is even rumoured.

But since then, the IC-7300, 9700, and 705 have arrived.  I wonder what the percentages of total sales each of those newer radios represents.  The 7300 itself is probably a big chunk.

73, Ed
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K0UA

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Re: IC7610 New one in the pipeline?
« Reply #11 on: February 15, 2021, 01:58:53 PM »

The IC-7610 was announced in spring 2017, so it's probably another year or so before anything new is even rumoured.

But since then, the IC-7300, 9700, and 705 have arrived.  I wonder what the percentages of total sales each of those newer radios represents.  The 7300 itself is probably a big chunk.

73, Ed

The 7300 proceeded the 7610 by several years.


Icom Announces New IC-7300 HF Amateur Radio Transceiver at Tokyo Ham Fair 2015
           
Icom America announces the new IC-7300 HF amateur radio. The radio was introduced at the Tokyo Hamfair 2015 and includes a high-resolution real-time spectrum scope, intuitive interface and a RF direct sampling system &emdash; an amateur radio first (as researched by Icom among major manufacturers)
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Re: IC7610 New one in the pipeline?
« Reply #12 on: February 16, 2021, 04:58:08 AM »


Icom Announces New IC-7300 HF Amateur Radio Transceiver at Tokyo Ham Fair 2015


Correct, I attended that one in August 2015...the 7300 on display was, as I recall, just a pretty shell, Icom were still developing it!
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K0UA

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Re: IC7610 New one in the pipeline?
« Reply #13 on: February 16, 2021, 05:59:58 AM »


Icom Announces New IC-7300 HF Amateur Radio Transceiver at Tokyo Ham Fair 2015


Correct, I attended that one in August 2015...the 7300 on display was, as I recall, just a pretty shell, Icom were still developing it!

Yes, but I owned one in 2016, and I was NOT an early adopter
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Re: IC7610 New one in the pipeline?
« Reply #14 on: February 17, 2021, 12:26:28 PM »

Ordered mine around December 2015, delivered around July 2016 in HKG, EU version. Sold January 2021 with 3 effective months use. Not a reflection on its qualities. Just reduction of boxes in storage. Overall, possibly the best CW rig I have owned in nearly 60 years. Achilles heel is poor audio which is not reduced by lowering the RF control. And, that clock battery issue...
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