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VE3WGO

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Re: AMSAT 'leaders' are selectively deleting posts from the AMSAT-BB archives
« Reply #15 on: February 15, 2021, 09:36:55 AM »

It is possible that the Amsat President's message was directed at Amsat's own board of directors and vice presidents (as well as volunteers and ambassadors) as much as anyone else. 

In other words, he is instructing them to shape up and adhere to the core principles that they are supposed to.  The new president may want to clean things up, especially after the much less than stellar track record of the Fox series of satellites.

We shall see if his words have any effect.

73, Ed
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« Reply #16 on: February 15, 2021, 10:08:10 PM »

It is possible that the Amsat President's message was directed at Amsat's own board of directors and vice presidents (as well as volunteers and ambassadors) as much as anyone else. 

In other words, he is instructing them to shape up and adhere to the core principles that they are supposed to.  The new president may want to clean things up, especially after the much less than stellar track record of the Fox series of satellites.

Ed, I applaud you for being a 'glass half full' type of person and for thinking that those words displayed by the AMSAT-NA President were meant for that purpose. I truly, and sincerely, mean that.

Sadly, the President, who has also been involved in controversies and scandals is simply trying to use a smokescreen to distract from what really happens within the organization.

It's not hard to find information about what really is happening... a current Board member maintains a blog:

http://amsat.wd9ewk.net

so does another current Board member:

https://w5nyv.blogspot.com/

These are two, respected, individuals that were elected to the Board of Directors have helped to reveal what really happens.

I maintain a blog:

http://we4bravo.com

What happens behind the curtain of AMSAT-NA is disgusting and only benefits the cronies of the organization and their buddies. I have provided documentation of every accusation I have made as have Michelle and Patrick.

When I see an, appointed (not elected) by his buddies, President of AMSAT giving a presentation and using a slide that used the words he did, I can't help but laugh. He's tainted. He's been caught in too many lies. He continues to embarrass members as the amateur radio world looks at AMSAT-NA and sees what a train wreck it is.

Mind you, these legacy, incumbents are quick to use smoke and mirrors but never deny that they have been involved in conspiracies and will not deny that the organization is in danger of losing its tax-free 501(c)(3) status. Want to know why? It's because they cannot do so.

Feel free to ask the President if he has been involved in any conspiracy against AMSAT-NA members and post your findings here. I can happily show you that he is lying :)

Ask the AMSAT-NA President what the ARRL opinion is of the organization. I'll be happy to publish internal communications from ARRL Officers.

Maybe you could ask the AMSAT-NA President about the IRS and the organization's 501(c)(3) status and see what he has to say.

There's lots of things that could be asked of the President and there's lots of evidence that will, probably, debunk anything he has to say.

I don't lie. I'm not smart enough to remember any lies that I might tell. Thus, it's easier for me to just tell the truth and document what I uncover.

The fact remains, AMSAT-NA has actively tried to hide the fact that they have a titled representative that has published words on Twitter that called for the assassination of politicians. Twitter locked this representative's account and forced him to delete the post. AMSAT-NA, by attempting to censor and hide what happened, has made many members very angry. AMSAT-NA has been exposed to the amateur radio world as an organization that supports someone that calls for assassinations of elected officials. It's all documented. It's not made-up. It's real. Nobody from AMSAT-NA denies it. They can't deny it. It happened. This is what members and potential members need to know. Does the ARRL do the same? Not that I've ever witnessed.

So, to sum it up, I greatly respect that you think that the AMSAT-NA President was aiming this particular presentation slide towards Board members and Officers but, respectfully, disagree with you. I see this as nothing other than another attempt for AMSAT-NA to attempt to appear to the public that everything is just happy with unicorns and rainbows. It's not happy. It's ugly and it's quite a mess. I have had these thugs and their cronies harass me and my family for speaking-up. I don't fear them. They are all keyboard warriors. Sadly, whereas you are 'glass half full' I am 'glass half empty' because I have the proof of how they really are behind the scenes. I have literally gigabytes of documents, chats and recordings to back it up. I am careful to only post what I can back-up with documentation. All they can do is attempt to use smoke and mirrors.

The eyes of the amateur radio world are on AMSAT-NA. AMSAT-NA continues to generate more and more negative press. This is fact. AMSAT-NA is currently at 0/3 for functional spacecraft but has plenty of ongoing controversies and scandals. It is what it is.
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VE3WGO

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Re: AMSAT 'leaders' are selectively deleting posts from the AMSAT-BB archives
« Reply #17 on: February 16, 2021, 09:01:23 AM »

So, even though I'm glass-half-full, I see two big problems that need to be corrected: 

First, the Fox series has generally not been reliable. 
Second, some Amsat behaviours (as you have described) have not been fully compliant with the Core Values.

Is there hope for the future?  What can actually be done to correct, and improve in these areas?

73, Ed

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WE4B

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Re: AMSAT 'leaders' are selectively deleting posts from the AMSAT-BB archives
« Reply #18 on: February 16, 2021, 12:19:34 PM »

Is there hope for the future?  What can actually be done to correct, and improve in these areas?

There is always hope!

To correct and improve the current issues with AMSAT-NA, there must be a massive change within the organization. For this to happen, members need to be less apathetic. Members need to vote-out the legacy incumbents that have allowed this to happen to AMSAT-NA. I'm not just talking about electing one or two new people as that does nothing. As long as there is a majority of these legacy incumbents, newcomers will not be able to outvote the incumbents. We have seen this happen with Michelle and Patrick being on the BOD. No matter what they have tried to do, they have been outvoted by legacy incumbents.

There needs to be a complete housecleaning of legacy incumbents that use the organization as their clubhouse. If members would simply open their minds and stop voting for people based on name recognition, things could change.

As long as these legacy incumbents retain their seats and as long as these legacy incumbents keep placing their friends (cronies) in Officer positions, AMSAT-NA will remain stagnant and will remain the laughing stock of the amateur radio satellite community.

All one has to do is look at the continued failures, controversies, scandals and lack of communication from AMSAT-NA over the past few years to see that what I say is true.

I started this thread to point-out that AMSAT-NA currently tries to erase history and to 'cover up' the fact that they have representatives that are extremists and domestic terrorists. Rather than eliminate these representatives, AMSAT-NA has chosen to try to erase this history. The requests of AMSAT-NA members to remove these representatives was simply 'erased'. I refuse to be a part of this cancel culture. I choose to speak-up and call out these legacy incumbents which have ruined a, once great, organization.

So, yes, there is hope but it's up to members to change the organization. As long as members choose to accept what they are getting, they will keep getting what they are getting. There are more and more of us that are fed-up with what has happened to AMSAT-NA and we will continue to speak-out. As paid members of the organization it is our right and responsibility to do so.

I post some fairly controversial subjects but make sure to backup my posts with documentation. My detractors can only reply with smoke and mirrors in an attempt to keep the truth from being known. My detractors are not able to counter what I post since what I post is truthful. I am just a simple, lowly AMSAT-NA member. I have no 'title' from the organization. I have no power within the organization. I am not 'friends' with legacy incumbents and thus, I am not beholden to them for any favors. I just want the organization to survive. As time marches on, it's seriously looking like the organization may not last much longer. There's only so much money in the coffers and, as more scandals arise and are publicized, fewer people will be willing to spend their $ to join such a scandalous organization. This latest scandal of AMSAT-NA attempting to erase history while having an extremist, domestic terrorist as a representative hasn't exactly generated a lot of positive reviews.

It is what it is. It's up to members to change things. I remain hopeful. To reiterate, here are two blogs from current AMSAT-NA Board members. You don't have to believe me, you can read factual information from actual Board members:

http://amsat.wd9ewk.net

https://w5nyv.blogspot.com/

I will end this with saying that AMSAT-NA can be saved if members care enough to do so and that the Dalai Lama is a fraud.
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Re: AMSAT 'leaders' are selectively deleting posts from the AMSAT-BB archives
« Reply #19 on: February 17, 2021, 01:15:06 PM »

CANCEL  CULTURE

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W4HIJ

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Nothing surprises me. I have no dog in this fight anymore but I occasionally pop by this forum to see what's up. I wasn't aware that " Mr. Ambassador" wanted to assassinate political leaders, I thought his loathsome and objectionable schemes stopped at being a two bit con artist, teaching bad operational practice and harassing people like myself at their personal E-mail address. Now I'm a little worried...
73,
Michael, W4HIJ
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“Repeating lie often enough so that some believe them to be true” is a law of propaganda often attributed to the Nazi Joseph Goebbels.

And a couple here have adopted that tactic.

Clint Bradford
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WE4B

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Repeating lies? What lies? Posts have been removed from the AMSAT-BB archive. Posts which questioned why AMSAT-NA would allow someone that posted very extremist views on Twitter to represent the organization. These aren't lies. These are facts. It is all documented at http://we4bravo.com

It is important that AMSAT-NA stakeholders know these facts as they allow a stakeholder to have a complete, factual view of the organization and how it is operated and managed. At one time, AMSAT-NA was the premier source of amateur radio satellites. It no longer is considered to be the premier source due to controversies, scandals and failed spacecraft missions.

If someone doesn't believe this post about scandals and controversies they can visit this link which is the blog of a current AMSAT-NA Board of Directors member to read about them:

http://amsat.wd9ewk.net

The selective censorship of history on the AMSAT-BB mailing list underscores another scandal/controversy that has happened within the past 30 days of this forum post. No lies here. Just factual information of which stakeholders should be aware in order to make informed decisions.
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"Censorship" - like "The Big Lie" - just don't exist as described in your bizarre scenarios.

There's no "censorship" occurring. But that is a "hot" word. And you love trying to
get folks to respond emotionally to your rants.

"Editorial control" and "moderation" and "authority figures" are what you have problems with.
A group moderator can do just about anything they want with our posts. That is usually in the
agreement we all read when joining. "Deleting" a post isn't "censorship." Placing a malcontent
on "moderated" status isn't censorship. Permanently banning someone usually makes a group
more adhesive and informative ... you should know that.

And you do. Continue your false propaganda smears. It is expected of you. It is your legacy. AMSAT
members saw right through you and voted appropriately - not once, but twice - to dismiss you as
irrelevant.

I just hope your lifestyle of online lying and smear tactics doesn't rub off and pollute the minds of your family members ... But one can only wish at times ...

Clint Bradford K6LCS






 
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WE4B

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Sigh...

Facts have been posted and backed-up with documentation.

It really doesn't get more simple than this.

No lies. No smears. Just facts.

Anyone that wishes to do so can read the facts here:

http://we4bravo.com

and

http://amsat.wd9ewk.net

I am now going to go outside and make some contacts on a satellite, maybe I'll hear also hear you on the satellite but one can only wish at times...

73!
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W4HIJ

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“Repeating lie often enough so that some believe them to be true” is a law of propaganda often attributed to the Nazi Joseph Goebbels.

And a couple here have adopted that tactic.

Clint Bradford
Should I post the text of the harassing E-mail(s) here again Mr. Ambassador? We could also go back in the internet wayback machine and find where Patrick hilariously exposed you as the self promoting con man and huckster that you are. Unfortunately for you, AMSAT can't censor all of the online foolishness you've engaged in for years. Are you ever going to stop teaching bad operating practice and causing needless QRM on the flying FM repeaters you love so much? Where's the lies Mr. Ambassador?
Michael, W4HIJ
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Gee ... for a guy who has never seen any of my 110 presentations, you sure pretend you know what you’re taking about.

Hey - this Saturday morning there’s a show you can attend. I’ll buy your ticket - If you promise to come back here Sunday and tell this thread exactly how many times I state, “It is best to work the easy FM voice sats in true, full-duplex mode.”

There ya go: Get a free ticket for admission, and report back what you hear. THEN you can continue with your anti-Clint’s-presentation b.s. ... or start telling the truth.

https://www.qsotodayhamexpo.com/

Want a chance to actually have first-hand information for your posts? Or do you prefer your lying and deception?

It’s in your court.

Clint Bradford


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W4HIJ

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 First of all, your show would be a waste of my time, there's absolutely nothing you could teach me about satellites that I don't already know. I'd bet every piece of ham gear I own that my
technical knowledge exceeds yours. Secondly, you proven beyond a shadow of a doubt in your behavior here and elsewhere as well as in your harassing E-mails that I know what I'm talking about and you are exactly what I said you are.

Selectively quoting yourself proves nothing either, you follow that full duplex statement with a big BUT and then tell new ops that it's OK to work half duplex.
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WE4B

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I wish this forum had a 'like' button  :)
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K6LCS

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Awww, 'HIJ - I am disappointed. But your reply was entirely expected. And anticipated

You have no idea what is IN my presentations that you lie about in public ... You were given an opportunity to actually SEE what is said ...

Nope. You cannot do that. How could you continue to lie and defame and misrepresent if you actually knew what you were writing about?

Clint Bradford

PS I gave your ticket away - to a brand-new ham/student in Southern California.

PPS Next weekend! https://www.qsotodayhamexpo.com/

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