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KBKZ2105

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Re: Direct Entry to Full Licence: RSGB Consultation UK
« Reply #15 on: February 18, 2021, 04:19:25 PM »

You seem to live on Fantasy Island. Ham radio never was a smartphone. Ham radio was, and is, where the operator needs to know a little bit about electricity, RF engineering, how to listen in a noisy audio environment, operating procedures, frequency allocations, etc. Smartphones are mass market consumer devices which require no interest in, or understanding of, the topics above.

I don't subscribe to the utility of an uninformed, sexist and ageist view of history. Lots of people still use horses, especially where there isn't a freeway or even a dirt road for 50 miles. You can't climb a
12,000 ft. peak in your SUV. There are also lots of people who ride horses simply for pleasure, or competition. You seem never to have spent a day at the track. Horse people are men and women.
You must be what they call a "dude."

I'm not telling "kids" anything. I'm saying that ham radio is a scientific/engineering/historical hobby that attracts a certain, quite limited, group of people. They tend not to be "in with the in-crowd." The kids I started in ham radio with became physicians, heads of state bureaucracies, successful business persons. Not stupid; not tied to what's trendy.

Lots of us don't buy all our gear. We buy some, build some, modify most. Your smartphone operator only has to put out a few hundred dollars once a year to get the latest and greatest model. After being told to do so by the smartphone itself. That's a very smart phone, and profitable for someone who already has lots of dough.

I avoid HF "phone." CW is more poetic, musical, creative. CW ops are, in my experience, interesting folks.

Conspicuous consumer culture kids don't engineer anything. They consume expensive products which are designed to be addictive.

This reminds me of the tale of a guy named Albert who was a founder of many of our contemporary concepts of physics and cosmology. Started the "spacetime" ball rollling. He didn't use a smartphone, or a telephone or a spark gap radio. He thought about things and came up with new ways of seeing the world via what was in his head. No shiny contraptions needed.

Yes sir that's the kinda rant that turns people away from ham radio.  I'm not even sure what you said. 

I apologize maybe someone can translate that. 

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K3UIM

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Re: Direct Entry to Full Licence: RSGB Consultation UK
« Reply #16 on: February 18, 2021, 04:43:49 PM »

"I apologize maybe someone can translate that"
Forget it, it's Latin and you wouldn't understand the translation anyway. And it's your continuous rants that are causing us to fire back at you.

Have you put me on your "Ignore" list yet? Please?

Charlie
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KBKZ2105

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Re: Direct Entry to Full Licence: RSGB Consultation UK
« Reply #17 on: February 18, 2021, 04:58:09 PM »

Forget it, it's Latin and you wouldn't understand the translation anyway. And it's your continuous rants that are causing us to fire back at you.

Have you put me on your "Ignore" list yet? Please?

Charlie

It's your lack of self control that is causing you to fire back at people. 

Don't blame me. 
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K3UIM

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Re: Direct Entry to Full Licence: RSGB Consultation UK
« Reply #18 on: February 18, 2021, 06:05:15 PM »

Forget it, it's Latin and you wouldn't understand the translation anyway. And it's your continuous rants that are causing us to fire back at you.

Have you put me on your "Ignore" list yet? Please?

Charlie

It's your lack of self control that is causing you to fire back at people. 

Don't blame me.
... sigh ... I'll just have to do the "Ignore" thing again, I guess.
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Re: Direct Entry to Full Licence: RSGB Consultation UK
« Reply #19 on: February 18, 2021, 08:28:34 PM »

I'm not even sure what you said. 

I apologize. I too rashly assumed that you were literate.
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« Reply #20 on: February 19, 2021, 09:15:15 AM »

MK:  ::) ;D
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KBKZ2105

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Re: Direct Entry to Full Licence: RSGB Consultation UK
« Reply #21 on: February 20, 2021, 03:32:55 PM »

I guess I'm not literate.  You are like a stunt pilot at a airshow.  All over the place.  Sorry but you never did make a point. 
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Re: Direct Entry to Full Licence: RSGB Consultation UK
« Reply #22 on: March 04, 2021, 01:37:25 AM »

Are they going to refund me the cost of my Foundation+Intermediate exams, plus the cost of the practical kit that you have to build for the Intermediate, plus the cost of membership of the local radio club, because they'll not let you book an exam if you're not a club member, plus the cost of the numerous "voluntary donations" that you have to give to local radio clubs to keep things going? I guess this would deprive the RSGB and its local clubs of more than one source of income.
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Re: Direct Entry to Full Licence: RSGB Consultation UK
« Reply #23 on: June 13, 2021, 11:19:01 PM »

https://rsgb.services/public/publications/esc/210211%20Direct%20to%20Full%20-%20Complete%20Specification.pdf

"Recall that the Foundation and Intermediate Licences do not permit operation of the Radio Equipment from a Vessel at Sea."

"Recall that airborne operation within the UK is not permitted at any Amateur Licence level."


I don't think we have those kind of restrictions in the U.S.  If you fly own your own plane, then why can't you operate amateur radio from it in the U.K. ?  If someone from the U.K. wants to explain it, then please do. I don't get the vessel at sea thing, sure they want you to encourage you to upgrade your Foundation and Intermediate Licences. But is there a mad dash of ham operators wanting to operate from a vessel at sea? lol

our caa = your faa do not understand amateur radio
caa think that hams want to be able to talk to air traffic controllers
because of that caa will not allow air mobile operation
as for being at sea its probably just an incentive to upgrade

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