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NK5G

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Re: ARRL drops the ball??
« Reply #180 on: July 02, 2022, 07:49:10 PM »

You know the HOA battle is lost when hams are now doing Walmarts On The Air.
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KT0DD

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Re: ARRL drops the ball??
« Reply #181 on: July 12, 2022, 05:30:51 AM »

"We have a pretty good HOA here, but there's no way they can keep out undesirables.  We have about 1,100 houses in this development and a lot of them are rental properties.  Take for instance the neighbor (and I use that term loosely) whose house and property look like a war was fought in it.  He has more junk (cars and other crap) in the drive, front yard and back yard, and in the garage, that it looks like a scrap yard opened for business.  All the HOA can do is send letters to the property owner, but that's it, it's then up to the property owner to make things right.  Obviously, in my case, the neighboring property owner is only concerned about one thing... his rent being paid on a timely basis."

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I wonder how detailed the HOA regs there really are? Has anyone really pushed the junkyard filth violators? All over the news lately are stories of how continuous HOA violations are now being met met with liens on their properties in order to force foreclosures to eliminate violators and take their property.

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Re: ARRL drops the ball??
« Reply #182 on: July 12, 2022, 08:25:02 AM »

"We have a pretty good HOA here, but there's no way they can keep out undesirables.  We have about 1,100 houses in this development and a lot of them are rental properties.  Take for instance the neighbor (and I use that term loosely) whose house and property look like a war was fought in it.  He has more junk (cars and other crap) in the drive, front yard and back yard, and in the garage, that it looks like a scrap yard opened for business.  All the HOA can do is send letters to the property owner, but that's it, it's then up to the property owner to make things right.  Obviously, in my case, the neighboring property owner is only concerned about one thing... his rent being paid on a timely basis."

73 de Jim - KE8G

I wonder how detailed the HOA regs there really are? Has anyone really pushed the junkyard filth violators? All over the news lately are stories of how continuous HOA violations are now being met met with liens on their properties in order to force foreclosures to eliminate violators and take their property.

It's impossible to generalize -all HOAs are different. Having said that, just as municipalities can place liens and seek to foreclose and take property for various reasons, so too can some HOAs do that. 

If you really want to know the answer to your question, simply search the relevant HOA rules to see what enforcement authority they have. Many municipalities, zoning boards, fire departments, etc... will have similar restrictions.

It is hard to regulate common courtesy and respect for others and some people don't like HOAs because they require both.

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W9FIB

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Re: ARRL drops the ball??
« Reply #183 on: July 13, 2022, 03:34:52 AM »

"We have a pretty good HOA here, but there's no way they can keep out undesirables.  We have about 1,100 houses in this development and a lot of them are rental properties.  Take for instance the neighbor (and I use that term loosely) whose house and property look like a war was fought in it.  He has more junk (cars and other crap) in the drive, front yard and back yard, and in the garage, that it looks like a scrap yard opened for business.  All the HOA can do is send letters to the property owner, but that's it, it's then up to the property owner to make things right.  Obviously, in my case, the neighboring property owner is only concerned about one thing... his rent being paid on a timely basis."

73 de Jim - KE8G

I wonder how detailed the HOA regs there really are? Has anyone really pushed the junkyard filth violators? All over the news lately are stories of how continuous HOA violations are now being met met with liens on their properties in order to force foreclosures to eliminate violators and take their property.

I can answer that from the perspective of a landlord. So many rules and regulations have been passed to protect tenants from enforcement. Because of that, bad tenants tend to do what they want and can get away with it as long as the rent is paid. Evictions are getting more difficult as the woke nation defends those who have no regard for rules. In the case of an HOA, the property had a lien put on it, yet I could not collect damages or evict the bum. In the end, I had to sell the property at a rather large loss to get out from the liens and the bad tenant.

The takeaway here is the HOA can enforce rules, but don't expect them to help you if you have a bad tenant. It is still your name on the contract with the HOA, and that is where the enforcement goes. So compliance with the HOA falls on your shoulders which can be difficult to impossible.
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K7JQ

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Re: ARRL drops the ball??
« Reply #184 on: July 13, 2022, 05:32:13 AM »


I can answer that from the perspective of a landlord. So many rules and regulations have been passed to protect tenants from enforcement. Because of that, bad tenants tend to do what they want and can get away with it as long as the rent is paid. Evictions are getting more difficult as the woke nation defends those who have no regard for rules. In the case of an HOA, the property had a lien put on it, yet I could not collect damages or evict the bum. In the end, I had to sell the property at a rather large loss to get out from the liens and the bad tenant.

The takeaway here is the HOA can enforce rules, but don't expect them to help you if you have a bad tenant. It is still your name on the contract with the HOA, and that is where the enforcement goes. So compliance with the HOA falls on your shoulders which can be difficult to impossible.

Such are the perils of being a residential landlord, especially in a HOA/CC&R controlled community. It’s up to you to properly vet prospective tenants to avoid damage to your property and CC&R violations. Of course, despite your due diligence, things can still go south. You, as the property owner, are on the hook for your tenant’s actions.

Perhaps extra language can be added to the lease, providing remedies to evict if CC&R compliance is not met by the tenant?

One reason I never got into rental property investments. The potential aggravation wasn’t worth it to me ;).
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W9FIB

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Re: ARRL drops the ball??
« Reply #185 on: July 14, 2022, 02:55:47 AM »

Perhaps extra language can be added to the lease, providing remedies to evict if CC&R compliance is not met by the tenant?

If only it were that easy. The woke whims of state and local government make writing such things into a lease more and more difficult. And enforcement almost impossible. I understand the reasoning, to protect people from slum lords, but often those same protections hurt the good landlords as well. As usual, government never writes things in a fashion that meets a middle ground.
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