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KX2T

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Re: FTDX10 Ergonomics
« Reply #15 on: May 10, 2021, 11:21:06 AM »

The FTDX10 has been just tested by the ARRL labs in the latest issue of QST on line, the lab numbers are very good and for the dollar value excellent, I guess allot of hams will just have to deal with some ergonomics' for the price range VS excellent performance. The Ten makes the K3s look like a quire boy and the ease of use far exceeds the K3 series plus the RX audio sounds soo much better!
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AC7CW

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Re: FTDX10 Ergonomics
« Reply #16 on: May 14, 2021, 11:28:04 AM »

Yaesus' firmware updates have messed up both the FT-DX10 and FT-DX100. I've been reading about that on the groups.io threads. Yaesus' customer service response recently was very offputting also.
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K2TPZ

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Re: FTDX10 Ergonomics
« Reply #17 on: June 30, 2021, 03:53:43 AM »

I finally purchased the FTDX10 and I am delighted with it. I wouldn’t say it is intuitive to use but it is definitely not frustrating to use. That was my main fear before purchasing the rig. The menu system in the Ten is actually pretty easy to get around. It is absolutely nothing like the FT 991A’s menu system which I found very difficult to use.

While I’ve only had the rig a short time so far I am very pleased with it and I have no regrets. I am mostly a CW operator and the Ten meets my operating needs. If in time I change my mind I will post my thoughts. Thanks for everyone’s input.
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KX2T

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Re: FTDX10 Ergonomics
« Reply #18 on: July 04, 2021, 06:57:37 AM »

Yaesu's latest firmware updates have not messed the radio up but I think in some cases these updates have not given some owners what they want in the end results. I would love to see averaging on the spectrum display cause I really don't do digital modes so the waterfall really is a none issue plus that the slight watery effect out of the NR plus improve the NB circuits but these issues I feel will take Yaesu more time to evolve but it doesn't make be dislike the radio.
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Re: FTDX10 Ergonomics
« Reply #19 on: July 11, 2021, 08:50:17 AM »

I too just purchased a Yaesu FTDX10 a little over a month ago. I too was hesitant because I came from Icom and had heard a lot of chatter about poor ergos and what not. I have used it everyday and have found that it is very easy to use and in my opinion very intuitive. It took all of about three days to become not only comfortable with it, but fall in love with the radio. I also have ZERO regrets with the FTDX10.
73 and enjoy the new radio!
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K7JQ

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Re: FTDX10 Ergonomics
« Reply #20 on: July 14, 2021, 07:05:34 AM »

Yaesu's latest firmware updates have not messed the radio up but I think in some cases these updates have not given some owners what they want in the end results. I would love to see averaging on the spectrum display cause I really don't do digital modes so the waterfall really is a none issue plus that the slight watery effect out of the NR plus improve the NB circuits but these issues I feel will take Yaesu more time to evolve but it doesn't make be dislike the radio.

Looks like you've had enough of the FTDX10. You're offering it in trade for a mid-power SS amp?
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VE7DQ

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Re: FTDX10 Ergonomics
« Reply #21 on: July 14, 2021, 03:11:46 PM »

Remember when many thought the TS-2000 was ugly?   ::)

Asbestos shorts at the ready!   ;D
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G8FXC

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Re: FTDX10 Ergonomics
« Reply #22 on: July 15, 2021, 06:06:53 AM »

Remember when many thought the TS-2000 was ugly?   ::)

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The TS-2000 was certainly weird! I sometimes find myself regretting having let mine go, but realistically speaking it was not a great performer ten years ago and I would not want to rely on one now...

Martin (G8FXC)
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KX3DX

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Re: FTDX10 Ergonomics
« Reply #23 on: July 17, 2021, 12:42:46 PM »

The FTdx-3000 has poor ergonomics.  The IC7300 has OK ergonomics.  The FTdx-10 has different ergonomics - nothing else like it on the market, but it works.  After you get used to it, it's addicting.  You have to keep an open mind - and after a while, you'll get "it".

But it's still not a Kenwood....

Dave
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KX2T

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Re: FTDX10 Ergonomics
« Reply #24 on: July 21, 2021, 05:21:02 AM »

If your comparing the FTDX10 to an 890S maybe but the TEN spanks the 590SG in many area's and I mean in RX performance, the TEN is the REAL K3s Killer!

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KX2T

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Re: FTDX10 Ergonomics
« Reply #25 on: August 24, 2021, 09:10:05 AM »

The only issue I see from hams who came from a 590 or a 7300 is those radio's were soo easy to use, you could almost not have to read the manual but even with past Yeasu designs dating back to the cryptic menus in the FT1000MP, then the easier but still slightly confusing 3000 this latest entry at least to me is far better done. I have owned a K3, TS590S, FTDX3000, IC7300 and currently a IC7610 and the FTDX10, yes even the 7610 is easier but the Ten has addressed some shortcomings, they did make it better but the RX performance is on par and maybe on CW better than the 7610 yet its only a single RX section what it can do is amazing but like Dave says you gotta warm up to it. What is nice is the little display windows that you have for certain controls give a better idea were you are setting things instead of the guess work but the 3DSS display makes me wanna drink some JD every time I look at it!
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KB1NO

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Re: FTDX10 Ergonomics
« Reply #26 on: September 02, 2021, 08:00:44 PM »

Just a couple of comments/opinion from my experience with an FTDX-10.   
A friend bought an FTDX-10 and raved about the receiver performance on CW, so...
I bought a 1 month old Ten from a ham who likes to try out and compare new radios,  sell them quickly, and take the $$ hit.
I don't mean that in a negative way.  I can see the fun of that approach if one has the available ham radio budget.

I also had concerns about the ergonomics after reading reviews.  I have owned Icom and Kenwood transceivers, and liked the human interface.
It was my first Yaesu radio,  so I disliked it for the first 2 days.   It took me that long to get used to the Yaesu terminology and figure out where they put everything.    After a week my opinion completely turned around and I liked everything about it.   The thing I had the most trouble with was the buttons that are close to the tuning knob and I even got used to that.   Rob Sherwood points out in a recent presentation that the FTDX-10 and FTDX-101 have the best synthesizers that Yaesu has ever made, which explains the excellent receiver performance. 
My IC-7300 is on my operating desk and I still use it.  They are different radios, and both have their strengths.
Overall, I found the FTDX-10 to be an excellent transceiver at the price point, especially for CW. 
73,
John, KB1NO
       

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KX2T

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Re: FTDX10 Ergonomics
« Reply #27 on: September 30, 2021, 07:05:21 AM »

It had taken me a while before I could really warm up to the FTDX10, RX audio was good and you had a new set of tone controls like an old Marantz stereo receiver, bass mid and treble. The TX is another story with the three band parametric EQ but since I have owned a FTDX3000 in my past that was no issue for me.

What did take a long time is getting used to the DNR which has a strange sound at first but at times very useful plus do not turn it past level 3. The NB is a tricky one and here is were Icom does a better job with more adjustment were you can fine tune it for various types of noise were the Yaesu is more designed for just a few noise sources plus it seem to act like an old analogue radio with the IF getting a little broad and scratch sounding.

Coming from a 7300 and still owning a 7610 sorry the 10  does not spank the 7610 even though Rob's list say it does it just doe not massage and produce the signal as well as the Icom, there is a next level of quality in the Icom but who knows maybe the FTDX101D might cure that but something tells me its not cause the 7610 is a real SDR radio its not a Hybrid like the Yaesu and the 7610 had a completely different system as far as the ADC's, the two FPGA's and there is no DSP chip doing the final audio and selectivity controls like in the 7300 or the FTDX10.

Here again the 7610 is a $3K radio were the FTDX10 is almost half the price and the 7300 is $600 less, they are all great values in todays radio market but the Ten is a much better overall radio then something like a K3 which would be what one would sell for in the used market plus its far easier to use plus better audio on both TX and RX, way better. I just hope that the K4 is easier to use than the K3 was which was the most horrible radio I ever owned, yes the RX tested great but it sounded like cow pud plus you can always tell on ssb if someone is using a K3, that scratchy restricted sound always is a tell tale sign. The K3's real realm is CW but even there what I call the T1 note is not even close to either the Yaesu or Icom's.

I agree with Johns assessment, with the Yaesu you have to give it some time, its not a right outa the box home run but its allot of good radio for the ham radio dollar.
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Re: FTDX10 Ergonomics
« Reply #28 on: November 24, 2021, 11:52:11 AM »

Price is important too, HRO, and likely others, have the FTDX10 for $1399.95 now.
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KX2T

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Re: FTDX10 Ergonomics
« Reply #29 on: November 29, 2021, 06:37:22 AM »

To K7JQ, I have sold the Ten and my 7610 which covered the purchase of a FTDX101D for your information, although the lab numbers in QST are close on most of these radio's I didn't expect much more improvement in the 101 over the ten which gave me a taste of the well developed Superhet designed front end with a SDR back end plus higher speed ADC/DAC with a few FPGA's thrown in for both RX sections and display. I was even more impressed with the 101 cause the RX section could handle even stronger signals into its front end then the Ten showed me, basically the 101 doesn't seem to have any blocking issues, in a nut shell in my opinion this radio is bullet proof which refers to the QST review in which Yaesu says it can take 27Dbm of signal before its starts to show signs of blocking.

I would have liked to keep both but that call was above my pay grade cause the TEN in my eye's is a K3 killer! The FTDX101D is the K4D killer and I would even say that the only radio which might get close is the TS890 cause the Yaesu is the most incredible Receiver I have ever used. Seems to me that Yaesu buying back there company from the large Corporate Giant like Motorola was the best thing they could do to preserve there reputation as a real radio company again were when under Motorola its was more show and less go, they are clearly back in the game again!
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