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WY7CHY

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Re: Cheap Flag Pole for HOA.
« Reply #15 on: June 12, 2021, 10:51:57 PM »

You have my interest. Can you reference a source for these 25 foot, $600 hollow poles that will house the 6BTV vertical?

- - Glenn W9IQ
You can use something like this:
https://www.united-states-flag.com/commercial-grade-sectional-25-ft-flagpole-satin.html

......... Cut slats from wood privacy fence wood and put that in place of the top of the half barrel. ........................

Anyway; if nothing else, I hope I gave you something to think about.
Mike

Yep, I am thinking about what the neighbors will say when I cut up the fence.
LOL. We didnt't cut his existing privacy fence. Bought some slats that you'd use to make a privacy fence. I'm sure you knew that; hence the LOL. But there might be some out there thinking we should cut up our fence. Although, if we cut up the neighbor's fence, that wouldn't be too bad.
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KB2WIG

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Re: Cheap Flag Pole for HOA.
« Reply #16 on: June 13, 2021, 06:25:45 AM »


For an opposing viewpoint,


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qblD0qW-ZYQ

KLC
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KE0VT

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Re: Cheap Flag Pole for HOA.
« Reply #17 on: July 16, 2021, 10:58:46 PM »

The Harbor Freight flagpole has instructions by John Portune, see W6NBC.com, 2017 harbor freight flagpole. I am building it as we speak. He also designed the one mentioned in post #1 that cost $900. Instructions explain electrical connection, simple. Flashing is sold at Loew's, 6" x 10'  for
$5.73, it is .01 thick. Total cost should be about $130. Antenna will handle 1500W. No radials, feed inside the flagpole for real stealth.

I am setting the base in concrete as I get some pretty high wind gusts. I will use an upside down plastic planter to hide the tuner and cover the
attachment.
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KE0VT

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Re: Cheap Flag Pole for HOA.
« Reply #18 on: August 06, 2021, 12:17:59 AM »

I just got an email from W6NBC and there have been changes in his design. The 2"PVC does not stand up well to the wind. Instead there is a fiberglass
insulator. John has not added the changes to his website. I have them available with resources to buy the fiberglass. I also have John's rendering
of the recommended changes. I am good on QRZ, email me and I will send them to you. Also, the flashing is gone.
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WB2WIK

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Re: Cheap Flag Pole for HOA.
« Reply #19 on: August 10, 2021, 05:21:37 PM »

Some useful stuff here, but if "stealth" and avoiding HOA rules which don't allow antennas but do allow flagpoles is really the issue, then fibreglas poles with a wire and such things aren't useful suggestions.

For a flagpole to be a flagpole, it needs to fly a flag at the top, which means a heavy top load (especially in the wind, when that 8 ounce flag now weighs 50 lbs) with a rope to hoist and lower it, a halyard, etc.   Like a flag pole.

Cheap fibreglas or PVC masts aren't going to do this.   A real flagpole can.

It needs to be aluminum or galvanized steel or something that can actually support a flag in the wind at the top, and unless illuminated at night (per "flag rules") can be lowered at dusk and raised at dawn and all that.

Thickwall aluminum tubing can do this job.   Insulating at the base is really easy.   Post hole digger and a few bags of premix concrete + water can install it in an hour.   Use a level. :)

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KC0W

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Re: Cheap Flag Pole for HOA.
« Reply #20 on: August 10, 2021, 09:25:19 PM »

No radials,

 You might want to first invest in an antenna book before worrying about the HOA friendly vertical.

 Tom KH0/KC0W
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W9IQ

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Re: Cheap Flag Pole for HOA.
« Reply #21 on: August 11, 2021, 06:38:56 AM »

There are very proper fiberglass flag poles available that make a nice random to hide a large diameter wire.

If radials are not possible then a vertical dipole, OCF might be a reasonable compromise. A remote, automatic tuner can make for a quote efficient antenna system.

- Glenn W9IQ
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W9IQ

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Re: Cheap Flag Pole for HOA.
« Reply #22 on: August 11, 2021, 07:23:02 AM »

There are very proper fiberglass flag poles available that make a nice radome to hide a large diameter wire.

- Glenn W9IQ
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God runs electromagnetics on Monday, Wednesday and Friday by the wave theory and the devil runs it on Tuesday, Thursday and Saturday by the Quantum theory.

KM1H

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Re: Cheap Flag Pole for HOA.
« Reply #23 on: August 12, 2021, 04:42:28 PM »

Do the HOA's state a flag must be flown every day?
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WB2WIK

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Re: Cheap Flag Pole for HOA.
« Reply #24 on: August 12, 2021, 05:11:06 PM »

For more useful information about flags and flagpoles, refer to the Holy Modal Rounders song. :)
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K1VSK

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Re: Cheap Flag Pole for HOA.
« Reply #25 on: August 12, 2021, 06:11:06 PM »

Do the HOA's state a flag must be flown every day?
I think the White House and the Capitol are the only HOAs which requires that but both are run by incompetents. 
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KM1H

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Re: Cheap Flag Pole for HOA.
« Reply #26 on: August 13, 2021, 08:53:54 AM »

+ 100 !
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