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KB1JBJ

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Re: Power from the electric seat
« Reply #15 on: January 11, 2022, 09:44:03 AM »

I ran both power and ground from my seat , 07 Avalanche, FT8900. Never a problem.
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K1VSK

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Re: Power from the electric seat
« Reply #16 on: January 11, 2022, 09:53:22 AM »

Can't imagine anyone so lazy that they have to use a seat motor to operate the seat.  My humble Toyota has a couple levers that move the seat around.  They are quite easy to use.  One more motor means one more failure point, someday./
Can you imagine playing with your radio while the seat massages your back 6 different ways?
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K1KIM

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Re: Power from the electric seat
« Reply #17 on: January 11, 2022, 10:07:04 AM »

Can't imagine anyone so lazy that they have to use a seat motor to operate the seat.  My humble Toyota has a couple levers that move the seat around.  They are quite easy to use.  One more motor means one more failure point, someday./

Guess I am lazy then. Electric seat position motor, backrest position motor, lumbar support motor, heating elements to keep me warm in winter, and speakers in the head rest. Gotta love it!

So you don't need to imagine anymore.

All that and mine has neck heat blower motors and 3 way massage........
I guess I'm spoiled as well  ;D ;D ;D
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WA1UIL

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Re: Power from the electric seat
« Reply #18 on: January 11, 2022, 10:35:11 AM »

I like the idea. At 50w you use 146.94 for seat forward and 146.67 for seat back. 146.52 turns the seat heat on/off.  I always power the dual band amps from the yellow wires under the dash... very handy!
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KD0REQ

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Re: Power from the electric seat
« Reply #19 on: January 11, 2022, 01:03:20 PM »

just a note, car wiring is one to two sizes smaller than the NFPA code for house wiring in almost all cases. code assumes an 80% load for a safety factor. most automotive stuff does not carry that level of current except for a short period. which is why you can burn up a lighter plug wire at 8 amps drawing 6 all the time.

unless you pop the hood on a hybrid. those are some thick wires.
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AC4RD

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Re: Power from the electric seat
« Reply #20 on: January 13, 2022, 05:26:29 PM »

I like the idea. At 50w you use 146.94 for seat forward and 146.67 for seat back. 146.52 turns the seat heat on/off.

On the control matrix, wire SEAT_UP = "mark" and SEAT_DOWN = "space"



(... and ROFL, WQ1UIL!)
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KM3F

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Re: Power from the electric seat
« Reply #21 on: February 15, 2022, 10:27:58 PM »

Things not considered for modern vehichles back to the mid  2000s.
Battery Mangement Systems are now the norm from 2015 on.
The sensor is located either in the positive or negitive lead for these systems.
If you hook directly to the battery posts, the radio is not sensed in the oveall battery control design for the vehichle.
This will have an effect on battery life calculations the Mangement does via the Sensor over the long term.
Those vehicle that have auto stop/start are most affected by low battery state of charge to the point of function failure.
Usually an AGM battery is used in these systems, and for a number of reasons are not kept or charged to `100% like a Flooded Lead Acid normally might be.
The state of charge in a late Ford F150 is desiged to be about 60 to 70% of full charge the battery is capable of. An AGM strill has a lot of power even at this SOC.
The battery type, the wide temperature range they are subjected to and attempts to improve vehichle fuel mileage and unload power robbing of the motor are some of the major reasons why. As the battery ages from all the various effects, the capacity goes down and charge rates are reduced to extend the life.
For instance, an AGM should never be charges at voltage above 14.6+/- and never be charged if the core is very cold in winter temps until it warms up.
The sensor tracks this and sends to mangement, that controls the field winding of the Alternator.
There is more to the system opration but you get the jist of the explaination as presented, I hope.
It's not the good old days any longer.
Your 13.8 volt equipment operates at 14.6+/- most of it's time in mobile under these conditions. Tx power is up along with Current draw.
Good luck.
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W9WQA

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Re: Power from the electric seat
« Reply #22 on: March 21, 2022, 08:04:15 PM »

Is the wire size and fuse size suitable to provide the current needed by the electric seat plus the current needed by the radio during transmit?

likely wont be transmitting and fiddling with seat at same time...
just try it
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W9WQA

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Re: Power from the electric seat
« Reply #23 on: March 21, 2022, 08:08:24 PM »

Can't imagine anyone so lazy that they have to use a seat motor to operate the seat.  My humble Toyota has a couple levers that move the seat around.  They are quite easy to use.  One more motor means one more failure point, someday./

if car came with power seat, its unlikely someone would change to a regular seat...,!!!
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W9WQA

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Re: Power from the electric seat
« Reply #24 on: March 21, 2022, 08:09:59 PM »

Can't imagine anyone so lazy that they have to use a seat motor to operate the seat.  My humble Toyota has a couple levers that move the seat around.  They are quite easy to use.  One more motor means one more failure point, someday./

Guess I am lazy then. Electric seat position motor, backrest position motor, lumbar support motor, heating elements to keep me warm in winter, and speakers in the head rest. Gotta love it!

So you don't need to imagine anymore.

ha...

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