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K3UIM

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Re: Techs caught on HF FT8
« Reply #15 on: August 24, 2021, 02:50:00 PM »

... He was very apologetic for his mistake and thanked me for moving up the band. He said he was nervous and not paying attention to the frequency display. I suspect some or even many of these incidents are honest mistakes. ...
Having my extre means I don't have to worry about this issue.   :)
And as long as my soldering pencil is on and working, me to!! ::) 8) ;D
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KM1H

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Re: Techs caught on HF FT8
« Reply #16 on: September 01, 2021, 05:08:26 PM »

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Having my extre means I don't have to worry about this issue. 

Having my Extra longer than many have been alive and not bothering with ANY SSB nets means I dont have to be around those clowns who dont even know their license privileges.
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N2EY

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Re: Techs caught on HF FT8
« Reply #17 on: September 02, 2021, 08:56:38 AM »

The first time, it may be an honest mistake.

After that.....not so much.

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I find it.....interesting....that some folks who brag about how long they've been licensed will also brag elsewhere about how they run more than the legal limit (1500 watts PEP) on AM because they "consider themselves grandfathered".

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KA1CNK

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Re: Techs caught on HF FT8
« Reply #18 on: September 07, 2021, 08:47:34 AM »

On a related matter, I have called CQ on SSB in the 40m extra/advanced class subband and had general class people answer me. Two of them gleefully told me that they had recently upgraded from tech to general. In both cases, I calmly explained they were operating outside their authorized frequencies and that since I didn't want them to get into trouble for it, I would move up to the general portion of the band so we could continue our QSO. One apologized for his misdeed but just signed clear while the other took me up on my offer and we moved up the band and continued talking.

Do you look up every call before you answer it?  In a number of cases, that's likely the only way to determine license class.
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K5NOK

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Re: Techs caught on HF FT8
« Reply #19 on: September 08, 2021, 01:30:35 PM »

I have an anecdotal tale for CNK.

In the last period of sunspots I was sitting in a dxpedition pileup in the Extra portion of 20 meters. I couldn't hear the DX but the East Coast was loud. To amuse myself while I hoped conditions changed in my favor, I started looking up call signs. I found Extra class operators up and down the East coast but the 5th lookup was a General class.
hmmm.
A few more and another General class and later yet a third General.
Now, maybe they had a Extra class control operator sitting next to them.  ?
It was one of the reefs that was activated last cycle. (Grin).
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N2EY

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Re: Techs caught on HF FT8
« Reply #20 on: September 08, 2021, 01:42:40 PM »

I have an anecdotal tale for CNK.

In the last period of sunspots I was sitting in a dxpedition pileup in the Extra portion of 20 meters. I couldn't hear the DX but the East Coast was loud. To amuse myself while I hoped conditions changed in my favor, I started looking up call signs. I found Extra class operators up and down the East coast but the 5th lookup was a General class.
hmmm.
A few more and another General class and later yet a third General.
Now, maybe they had a Extra class control operator sitting next to them.  ?
It was one of the reefs that was activated last cycle. (Grin).

Even if there was an Extra as control operator, the operation wasn't legal if the callsign used was that of a General.

And of course such a Q would not count for DXCC.

Also, unless there is a third-party-traffic agreement between the USA and the reef in question....

73 de Jim, N2EY
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W9IQ

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Re: Techs caught on HF FT8
« Reply #21 on: September 08, 2021, 02:55:38 PM »

Now, maybe they had a Extra class control operator sitting next to them?

If that were the case then 97.119(4)(e) would apply:

When the operator license class held by the control operator exceeds that of the station licensee, an indicator consisting of the call sign assigned to the control operator's station must be included after the call sign.

- Glenn W9IQ
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N1KWW

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Re: Techs caught on HF FT8
« Reply #22 on: February 22, 2022, 06:54:36 PM »

I suspect with digital SDR's engrossed in answering stationa without first checking the frequency could, could happen!
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N8NK

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Re: Techs caught on HF FT8
« Reply #23 on: February 22, 2022, 07:55:51 PM »

drip.. drip.. drip.....
The Great Dilution continues and is accelerating exponentially
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Re: Techs caught on HF FT8
« Reply #24 on: February 22, 2022, 07:59:51 PM »

   Bailiff, Whack his pee pee.

Quote from Chech and Chong, 1978.
« Last Edit: February 22, 2022, 08:08:27 PM by SWMAN »
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W5RG

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Re: Techs caught on HF FT8
« Reply #25 on: February 22, 2022, 08:11:38 PM »

Thank God we have the ARRL!!
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KF4HR

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Re: Techs caught on HF FT8
« Reply #26 on: February 22, 2022, 10:58:40 PM »

I occasionally read where the FCC imposes fines and pulls licenses.  This News needs considerably more advertising.  Rules are only as good as the enforcement. 
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Re: Techs caught on HF FT8
« Reply #27 on: February 23, 2022, 04:29:15 AM »

What happens if they do it again?  Is Riley going to wield the broadsword?

Nah, the WufHong.
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K1FBI

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Re: Techs caught on HF FT8
« Reply #28 on: February 23, 2022, 05:43:50 AM »

On a related matter, I have called CQ on SSB in the 40m extra/advanced class subband and had general class people answer me. Two of them gleefully told me that they had recently upgraded from tech to general. In both cases, I calmly explained they were operating outside their authorized frequencies and that since I didn't want them to get into trouble for it, I would move up to the general portion of the band so we could continue our QSO. One apologized for his misdeed but just signed clear while the other took me up on my offer and we moved up the band and continued talking.

Do you look up every call before you answer it?  In a number of cases, that's likely the only way to determine license class.
Only if you're looking to play Cop. I look up call signs but never check for license class.
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WA9AFM

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Re: Techs caught on HF FT8
« Reply #29 on: February 23, 2022, 08:41:49 AM »

Once identified as operating out the terms of their license, tell them to move to their authorized segment and then cease any communications with them, i.e. treat them like a jammer and don't acknowledge.
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