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N2KD

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Hurricaine Watch Network asked to change freq?
« on: August 29, 2021, 04:48:18 PM »

Tonight I was listening to HWN on either 7268 or
14300 when I guess some operator asked them to move?

Wasn't hearing both sides, so was wondering
if anyone caught that?

Longtime control op for HWN seemed to handle
it diplomatically and didn't move.

This happened around 1820 Eastern time.
« Last Edit: August 29, 2021, 04:51:12 PM by N2KD »
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WA9AFM

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Re: Hurricaine Watch Network asked to change freq?
« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2021, 06:52:02 PM »

Unfortunately, this is not an unusual occurrence.  During the SATERN net in support of Hurricane Katrina, a station jumped on the the net frequency and 'demanded we moved as he always met a friend on this frequency'. 

As with your incident, the NCS calmly explained this frequency was in use for emergency traffic and had been declared an emergency frequency by the FCC.  The intruding station response was 'we'll see about that'.  We heard nothing more from him.
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KB8VUL

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Re: Hurricaine Watch Network asked to change freq?
« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2021, 01:46:05 PM »

And this somehow surprises you?? Really?
I see this from both sides.
I understand that there are guys and gals out there that are truly trying to assist in any manner they can.
But the opposite side of it was something I experienced here in Ohio by someone down there that claims his HOUSE was designated the backup EOC for his county.

He beat the table in the middle of the Tee Jay's restaurant hollering about how no one would listen to the reports coming in from the hams and that they were important and no one cared. 

With that sort of folks involved, I am frankly NOT surprised that no one listened or cared.
First off NO ONE is going to get their personal residence declared as a backup EOC.  That's just silly.  Second thing was I listened to the nets during Katrina.  The reports were as if they were watching FOX news and reporting on what was no the TV.  Everything that was being said was being broadcast by the media outlets with full video. 

I have said numerous times that ARES needs to reinvent it self and figure out a problem to solve and not be a solution looking for a problem that typically no longer exists. 
Define "When all else fails"  then consider what that would actually take in this day and age with current technology.  You are left with a huge hole in the ground where a city or town was at one point and then you are starting to grasp what it would take. 
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Re: Hurricaine Watch Network asked to change freq?
« Reply #3 on: September 09, 2021, 06:00:52 AM »

"ARES needs to reinvent it self and figure out a problem to solve and not be a solution looking for a problem"

Could not be better said.

It seems that SHARES and AUXCOM are the new fad, And the ARRL does
not (seem to) like them because they don't control them.

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KB8VUL

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Re: Hurricaine Watch Network asked to change freq?
« Reply #4 on: September 17, 2021, 10:27:14 PM »

I will say this.  AREDN, the Amateur Radio Emergency Data Network concept is something that needs to be considered.
And although this has been posted before, it's still relevant and would actually be something that would positively contribute.

If you can provide video feeds and date transfer from site to site YOu have something valuable.
Walking into an EOC on a small regional disaster and wanting to spin up HF radios and all that crap is pointless.
Who are you going to talk to that is 300 miles away that is going to assist the situation you are having right there?  Answer is no one.
There is a time and a place for that level of communications, and you SHOULD be able to provide it when needed.  But if that's all you bring to the table, then you serve no purpose typically.

Sure you can pass health and welfare traffic out for private citizens that they are OK to family members, but that's NOT EMCOMM.  That's public service function, it doesn't fall under Homeland Security, EMA or ant other emergency service.  It's a Red Cross function, not public safety.
Those folks don't give a rip if someones mother is informed 3 states away their son-in-law broke his leg but the family pet and everyone else in the house is OK.  You need situational awareness.  If you can bring in video and data.. That's usable stuff.  How many people are in a certain shelter, the fact they are running low on toilet paper, or whatever, don't care.  Bigger fish to fry.  Pictures of damage in inaccessible area's, data connections between the EOC, police and fire dispatch, other EOC's in other neighboring counties.  An IP phone system that operates across microwave that is not reliant on the telco's or cell towers, gonna say that might be useful as well. 

Being able to talk to Florida when you are in Ohio.  Not real useful in many situations.
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