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N2EY

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Re: ARRL to Pay Initial License Fee for Under 18 Year Olds
« Reply #15 on: September 08, 2021, 01:54:52 PM »

For those who may not be familiar with the classic "Four Yorkshiremen" sketch:

https://youtu.be/ue7wM0QC5LE

Although often credited to Monty Python, it was actually written for "At Last The 1948 Show".

Enjoy

73 de Jim, N2EY
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Re: ARRL to Pay Initial License Fee for Under 18 Year Olds
« Reply #16 on: September 08, 2021, 02:24:57 PM »

For those who may not be familiar with the classic "Four Yorkshiremen" sketch:

https://youtu.be/ue7wM0QC5LE

Although often credited to Monty Python, it was actually written for "At Last The 1948 Show".

Enjoy

73 de Jim, N2EY

Apropos, Jim!

- Glenn W9IQ
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N2EY

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Re: ARRL to Pay Initial License Fee for Under 18 Year Olds
« Reply #17 on: September 08, 2021, 08:14:47 PM »

For those who may not be familiar with the classic "Four Yorkshiremen" sketch:

https://youtu.be/ue7wM0QC5LE

Although often credited to Monty Python, it was actually written for "At Last The 1948 Show".

Enjoy

73 de Jim, N2EY

Apropos, Jim!

- Glenn W9IQ

Thanks Glenn

British humour usually has a serious foundation - which is probably why some folks don't like it.

Another classic is "Argument Clinic", which is Monty Python.

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KM1H

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Re: ARRL to Pay Initial License Fee for Under 18 Year Olds
« Reply #18 on: September 09, 2021, 07:57:52 AM »

Many either never heard MP or simply dont care for it. I often found it very entertaining having spent a bit of time in the UK before and after its debut.

For this discussion it fell very flat IMO as it doesnt even remotely apply to me if meant as another insult.
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Re: ARRL to Pay Initial License Fee for Under 18 Year Olds
« Reply #19 on: September 09, 2021, 11:10:12 AM »

From the ARRL (edited for brevity):

The ARRL Board of Directors has formally endorsed a proposed program calling on ARRL to cover the $35 application fee for license candidates younger than 18 years old. The FCC is not expected to implement the $35 application fee schedule until sometime in 2022.

Under the program, ARRL would cover a one-time $35 application fee for each qualified candidate who passes one or more amateur radio exams taken on the same day at a single examination session. Tests would have to be administered by a Volunteer Examiner (VE) team working under the auspices of the ARRL Volunteer Examiner Coordinator (VEC). Qualified candidates would also pay a reduced exam session fee of $5 to the ARRL VEC.

The Board said ARRL Headquarters staff would determine the method of qualifying applicants and instruct VE teams, giving the teams flexibility to determine that a candidate is eligible for reimbursement in the absence of documented proof. The Board envisioned that the VEC would pay the FCC directly. The new program would initially serve up to 1,000 new license applicants younger than 18 years old.

- Glenn W9IQ

NO!  This is just another example of handing young people everything on a silver platter.  If someone under the age of 18 wants an amateur radio license bad enough, they'll come up with a way to get the $35.
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Re: ARRL to Pay Initial License Fee for Under 18 Year Olds
« Reply #20 on: September 09, 2021, 12:37:41 PM »

Its time to defeat all those in the ARRL that support this farce in the upcoming elections.
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Re: ARRL to Pay Initial License Fee for Under 18 Year Olds
« Reply #21 on: September 09, 2021, 04:28:15 PM »

Awwww give the kids a break. I don't think the HR community is going to go broke on this small incentive program.

Oh my. It may actually hold up a new radio sale to the previously licensed people for what, a couple minutes? Or less? We are not talking a free degree from MSOE or MIT here.
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KM1H

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Re: ARRL to Pay Initial License Fee for Under 18 Year Olds
« Reply #22 on: September 09, 2021, 06:11:29 PM »

Well numbers dont lie but interpreting them can be a problem.

From 1/1/21 to 6/23/21 there were 4401 unexpired Tech classes added according to the ARRL as shown below.

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on June 23, 2021 was:....

So just the Techs at $35 a pop is $154,035 for ~ 6 months.

I'll let someone else put that all into perspective for all hams and properly massaged to show what those numbers really mean... I dont want someone throwing a hissy fit and Im off to bed.

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N2EY

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Re: ARRL to Pay Initial License Fee for Under 18 Year Olds
« Reply #23 on: September 10, 2021, 04:23:40 AM »

Awwww give the kids a break. I don't think the HR community is going to go broke on this small incentive program.

Oh my. It may actually hold up a new radio sale to the previously licensed people for what, a couple minutes? Or less? We are not talking a free degree from MSOE or MIT here.

All true...but there's more!

The program does NOT give ALL new hams a free ride. Nor does it apply to ALL newcomers under 18 years old.

The program allows up to 1000 new hams under 18 to get the $35 license fee paid for them at the discretion of the ARRL VEs running test sessions if they apply and are qualified. That's all. Total cost $35,000 maximum.

There are other requirements too. It will be interesting to see how long it takes for the 1000 to be awarded.

Meanwhile, the same folks who are all upset about "handouts" seem to be those glad to grab every senior citizen discount and freebie they can.

As you said: Give 'em a break!



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Re: ARRL to Pay Initial License Fee for Under 18 Year Olds
« Reply #24 on: September 10, 2021, 09:37:35 AM »

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The program allows up to 1000 new hams under 18 to get the $35 license fee paid for them at the discretion of the ARRL VEs running test sessions if they apply and are qualified. That's all. Total cost $35,000 maximum.

There are other requirements too. It will be interesting to see how long it takes for the 1000 to be awarded.

Meanwhile, the same folks who are all upset about "handouts" seem to be those glad to grab every senior citizen discount and freebie they can.

I consider 1000 acceptable and arent you in the senile citizen age group?  Thankfully I dont have to milk that category.
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Re: ARRL to Pay Initial License Fee for Under 18 Year Olds
« Reply #25 on: September 10, 2021, 10:14:58 AM »

Meanwhile, the same folks who are all upset about "handouts" seem to be those glad to grab every senior citizen discount and freebie they can.

And we're done.
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Re: ARRL to Pay Initial License Fee for Under 18 Year Olds
« Reply #26 on: September 10, 2021, 01:45:29 PM »

Meanwhile, the same folks who are all upset about "handouts" seem to be those glad to grab every senior citizen discount and freebie they can.

And we're done.
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N2EY

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Re: ARRL to Pay Initial License Fee for Under 18 Year Olds
« Reply #27 on: September 13, 2021, 09:54:36 AM »

Meanwhile, the same folks who are all upset about "handouts" seem to be those glad to grab every senior citizen discount and freebie they can.

And we're done.
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Fixed income sucks! ::) :D
Charlie

What is a "fixed income", anyway?

Anyone who works for a salary - which IMHO is most working people today - is on a "fixed income".

Anyone who gets Social Security or RRTA gets an AUTOMATIC cost-of-living adjustment (COLA) every year, by law, based on the CPI-W consumer price index.

Some may say the CPI-W is not 100% accurate, and I agree. But it's an increase almost every year, which isn't guaranteed for most working people.

Of course hourly employees can sometimes boost their income by working more hours - at the pleasure of their employer.

Senior citizens get all sorts of discounts and freebies, too. Just the other day I rode rode SEPTA regional rail for FREE.

So...just what is a "fixed income"?


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Re: ARRL to Pay Initial License Fee for Under 18 Year Olds
« Reply #28 on: September 13, 2021, 10:48:16 AM »

It's....interesting....when folks who are SO critical and judgmental can't even do simple math - or understand how online inflation calculators work.

How does one call another "judgmental" without being judgmental?

It is "critical" for all those who wish to do so express an opinion on the topic of this thread.
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Re: ARRL to Pay Initial License Fee for Under 18 Year Olds
« Reply #29 on: September 13, 2021, 03:33:54 PM »

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How does one call another "judgmental" without being judgmental?

By believing perfection in his own mind and accepts no criticism without attacking over and over, even a decade later, the same subject and person involved.

He just got another post removed on QRZ and is actively being watched.
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