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K1FBI

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Re: 2m affordable solid state repeater ideas?
« Reply #15 on: January 12, 2022, 05:32:13 AM »

John:

FB on being a Navy diver - and kudos to you for your achievement.  It's a challenging specialty.  My older brother was a UDT frogman back in the '70's and taught me to dive.

Had a chuckle over your QRZ page though:

"What I do in ham radio is of no concern to anyone on this forum."

Okee dokee.  Well ... why have a QRZ page, then?  :)

Brian - K6BRN
My girl taught me to dive; my UDT friend taught me how to make things go BOOM. 😊
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« Reply #16 on: February 02, 2022, 07:00:03 PM »

Frank Maggiore passed away over 20 years ago,  and his son Paul ran the business for several years until closing their doors.
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« Reply #17 on: February 03, 2022, 09:59:46 AM »

Frank Maggiore passed away over 20 years ago,  and his son Paul ran the business for several years until closing their doors.

I spoke to Darina Maggiore the Owner in August 2019 and as of then they were still in business.
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« Reply #18 on: February 17, 2022, 07:35:42 PM »

Frank Maggiore passed away over 20 years ago,  and his son Paul ran the business for several years until closing their doors.

I spoke to Darina Maggiore the Owner in August 2019 and as of then they were still in business.

if they was still in business you would think they would have a website up, yet they do not.
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« Reply #19 on: February 18, 2022, 04:05:15 AM »

Frank Maggiore passed away over 20 years ago,  and his son Paul ran the business for several years until closing their doors.

I spoke to Darina Maggiore the Owner in August 2019 and as of then they were still in business.

In these pandemic times, almost three years is an eternity.
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LA9XNA

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Re: 2m affordable solid state repeater ideas?
« Reply #20 on: February 18, 2022, 04:48:42 AM »

Hello,

Awhile back I recall that there were some solid state 2m repeaters coming out of China with some decent prices on them (I can't speak for the quality of them). Would anyone on the forums happen to have any information on possibly what brands these might be? At the time I didn't take note of what they were and of course now, when I need the information, I can't remember anything.

Thank you in advance

Many of these smaller repeaters require a wider split than what is used in ham radio.
If you look at Icom repeaters like the IC-FR5000 and IC-FR6000 series they have a minimum split of 3Mhz. They would be usable in US because they have higher split than in Region 1 (0,6Mhz on 2m and 2Mhz on 70cm).

If you decide going for something out of China be sure to check the minimum repeater split.
It might be cheeper to build the repeater from two secondhand mobile radios and then you will not have the same issues with the split.
To get better isolation between TX and RX you can have separate filters, coaxes up to the antennas.
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Re: 2m affordable solid state repeater ideas?
« Reply #21 on: February 18, 2022, 11:36:45 AM »

John:

FB on being a Navy diver - and kudos to you for your achievement.  It's a challenging specialty.  My older brother was a UDT frogman back in the '70's and taught me to dive.

Had a chuckle over your QRZ page though:

"What I do in ham radio is of no concern to anyone on this forum."

Okee dokee.  Well ... why have a QRZ page, then?  :)

Brian - K6BRN

That's been changed.  It was a retort for some of the curmudgeons over there who feel the need to look up everyone's call sign and then question their role in ham radio.  As far as having a QRZ page is concerned, it comes with the territory.
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K6BRN

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« Reply #22 on: February 18, 2022, 12:16:37 PM »

That's been changed.  It was a retort for some of the curmudgeons over there who feel the need to look up everyone's call sign and then question their role in ham radio.  As far as having a QRZ page is concerned, it comes with the territory.

Hi John (K6CPO):

Amateur Radio is a hobby and whatever you do with it and how you enjoy it, within its limits, is purely up to you.  It's seems to be human nature that many try and establish a pecking order in any organization or forum - which in the case of our shared hobby is pretty humorous.  As a social function, I DO enjoy looking up people on their QRZ pages, just to see what their interests are.  Lots of fascinating people in this hobby.  I've made friends with quite a few.  And avoid others.

So, in the end, no worries.  It's a hobby.

Brian - K6BRN
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KB8VUL

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Re: 2m affordable solid state repeater ideas?
« Reply #23 on: February 18, 2022, 06:32:22 PM »


There should be a rule:  Three repeaters must be taken off the air before a new one can be installed. :)

No, a repeater should have a minimum amount of logged use by individuals OTHER than the license holder with their callsign attached to the repeater in order to maintain coordination of the pair at minimum and in truth for the repeater to be on the air. 

And there needs to be pairs set aside that are coordinated for 6 months or a year to verify there will be continued use of A repeater pair before full coordination is granted to a semi-permanent pair that then would need to log the above minimum requirement to remain coordinated and active. 

There are TOO many repeaters on the air currently as it is.  Many have poor overall coverage and are poorly maintained but the trustees have decided it's THEIR frequency pair and they ain't coming off it. Problem is that coordination has to be maintained equally for all pairs in use.  Meaning the guy with the VHF repeater that is 800 foot in the air running 300 watts and has 12 receive sites gets the same treatment that the guy with a 20 foot pole in his side yard and a couple old radios duct taped together and an R-Pi repeater controller.  One of these things is NOT like the other.


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Re: 2m affordable solid state repeater ideas?
« Reply #24 on: February 18, 2022, 06:34:22 PM »

Oh yeah,,,, and a SOLID STATE repeater ??? ??? ???
Sorry dude, but I really don't think that term would apply any more. 
Thought that stuff was done in the 70's when everything went to transistors
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« Reply #25 on: February 19, 2022, 09:08:41 AM »

To the original poster...
"Affordable"?... what's your budget?

-Mike.
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« Reply #26 on: February 25, 2022, 04:54:58 AM »

Oh yeah,,,, and a SOLID STATE repeater ??? ??? ???
Sorry dude, but I really don't think that term would apply any more. 
Thought that stuff was done in the 70's when everything went to transistors

I've been running a GE Mastr II high band w/ a 4CX250 for years.  Built like a brick shithouse.  Still running with the original tube.
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KB8VUL

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Re: 2m affordable solid state repeater ideas?
« Reply #27 on: February 26, 2022, 06:30:19 AM »

Oh yeah,,,, and a SOLID STATE repeater ??? ??? ???
Sorry dude, but I really don't think that term would apply any more. 
Thought that stuff was done in the 70's when everything went to transistors

I've been running a GE Mastr II high band w/ a 4CX250 for years.  Built like a brick shithouse.  Still running with the original tube.
Oh, please understand that I am NOT picking on tubes.  The high profile system we have in this area is a tube final Micor running 375 out the back and has been that for years as well. 
What I am saying is your not going to find an ALL tube radio, get crystals for it and tune it up for what you can buy a used Kenwood repeater for.  That stuff is either on the air in ham use or it's gone. 
Not sure of your age, but there was a time that anything that had transistors in it at ALL, like a MASTRII was labeled as being SOLID STATE because transistors were the futher and it was 'cutting edge' technology.  If you lived through the late 80's you will remember that anything to do with home audio got labeled 'DIGITAL READY' because of CD's coming into general consumer use.  It wasn't that it had some special sauce applied or anything like that... it was just what manufactures did to sell their stuff. 
Asking for a SOLID STATE piece of gear in this day and age just seems silly. 
I would be asking for a programmable repeater that doesn't need crystals as those have become really expensive to get make for equipment needing them. 
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Re: 2m affordable solid state repeater ideas?
« Reply #28 on: March 07, 2022, 06:05:47 PM »


There should be a rule:  Three repeaters must be taken off the air before a new one can be installed. :)

No, a repeater should have a minimum amount of logged use by individuals OTHER than the license holder with their callsign attached to the repeater in order to maintain coordination of the pair at minimum and in truth for the repeater to be on the air. 

And there needs to be pairs set aside that are coordinated for 6 months or a year to verify there will be continued use of A repeater pair before full coordination is granted to a semi-permanent pair that then would need to log the above minimum requirement to remain coordinated and active. 

There are TOO many repeaters on the air currently as it is.  Many have poor overall coverage and are poorly maintained but the trustees have decided it's THEIR frequency pair and they ain't coming off it. Problem is that coordination has to be maintained equally for all pairs in use.  Meaning the guy with the VHF repeater that is 800 foot in the air running 300 watts and has 12 receive sites gets the same treatment that the guy with a 20 foot pole in his side yard and a couple old radios duct taped together and an R-Pi repeater controller.  One of these things is NOT like the other.

And yet Mr. 800ft repeater could have 0 users cause he is a stickler and won't let anyone have any actual fun outside of the boring "hi hi om I am driving in my motorcar eating a chicken sandwich ok I am destinated 73" type conversation, while the guy with the 20ft repeater could have activity for 12+ hours a day cause he lets people have fun on his repeater talking about everything from space aliens to building a computer to im sick and tired of going by the fuel station and seeing the price went up another 40 cents.
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Re: 2m affordable solid state repeater ideas?
« Reply #29 on: March 10, 2022, 11:13:46 AM »

It's ham radio, and you just have to get used to the idea that no one person, and no one use is more important than the other. 

Mark K5LXP
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