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W9FIB

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Re: check your state's legislative history
« Reply #30 on: January 19, 2022, 06:06:20 AM »

Depending on any crazy people on an HOA board, your mileage may vary ;).

And that is the crux of the problem. Where 1 person has no problems, others do. So really neither side can be used as an overall example that would sum up all HOAs. So no direct comparison can be made other than your own situation. And to debate 2 situations as if they cover all is a worthless use of forum space.

And yet people who don’t and often have never lived in even one HOA make broad generalizations about them all. We see that here all the time, perhaps yourself included, but that doesn’t seem to be included in your admonition. Singing to the choir is easy…

Which proves you just like to argue. HAVE FUN.

And your assumptions of where people live now or in the past should at least have some proof. Otherwise your just baiting people to argue. Which you seem to be good at.
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K7JQ

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Re: check your state's legislative history
« Reply #31 on: January 19, 2022, 06:35:26 AM »

Depending on any crazy people on an HOA board, your mileage may vary ;).

And that is the crux of the problem. Where 1 person has no problems, others do. So really neither side can be used as an overall example that would sum up all HOAs. So no direct comparison can be made other than your own situation. And to debate 2 situations as if they cover all is a worthless use of forum space.

I never said/implied that my three HOA “situations” cover all (see “your mileage might vary”). But I am qualified to comment on living in three of them in the last thirty years, and relating my antenna and other experiences. After all, this is an “Antenna Restrictions” forum topic.

What is a “worthless use of forum space” are those who post comments denigrating HOA’s having never lived in one.

So my question to you, Stan, do you now or ever have lived in an HOA/CC&R community? If so, I’d like to hear your bad experience(s).

Bob K7JQ
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K1VSK

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« Reply #32 on: January 19, 2022, 10:54:25 AM »

Depending on any crazy people on an HOA board, your mileage may vary ;).

And that is the crux of the problem. Where 1 person has no problems, others do. So really neither side can be used as an overall example that would sum up all HOAs. So no direct comparison can be made other than your own situation. And to debate 2 situations as if they cover all is a worthless use of forum space.

And yet people who don’t and often have never lived in even one HOA make broad generalizations about them all. We see that here all the time, perhaps yourself included, but that doesn’t seem to be included in your admonition. Singing to the choir is easy…

Which proves you just like to argue. HAVE FUN.

And your assumptions of where people live now or in the past should at least have some proof. Otherwise your just baiting people to argue. Which you seem to be good at.

It’s pretty easy to tell where people live currently and many also describe their previous residences. Im not arguing; I’m expressing my perspective based on what I can see and/or read. As for the arguing, I refer you to your own comments quoted above.
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K7JQ

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Re: check your state's legislative history
« Reply #33 on: January 21, 2022, 05:12:49 AM »

Depending on any crazy people on an HOA board, your mileage may vary ;).

And that is the crux of the problem. Where 1 person has no problems, others do. So really neither side can be used as an overall example that would sum up all HOAs. So no direct comparison can be made other than your own situation. And to debate 2 situations as if they cover all is a worthless use of forum space.

I never said/implied that my three HOA “situations” cover all (see “your mileage might vary”). But I am qualified to comment on living in three of them in the last thirty years, and relating my antenna and other experiences. After all, this is an “Antenna Restrictions” forum topic.

What is a “worthless use of forum space” are those who post comments denigrating HOA’s having never lived in one.

So my question to you, Stan, do you now or ever have lived in an HOA/CC&R community? If so, I’d like to hear your bad experience(s).

Bob K7JQ

With no response so far to my question, I can assume he does not now nor ever has lived in an HOA community. Yet he comments on it with no experience.
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K1VSK

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Re: check your state's legislative history
« Reply #34 on: January 21, 2022, 09:47:53 AM »



With no response so far to my question, I can assume he does not now nor ever has lived in an HOA community. Yet he comments on it with no experience.

To paraphrase, if it walks like a troll, sounds like a troll,…..
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Re: check your state's legislative history
« Reply #35 on: January 21, 2022, 01:51:56 PM »

If you want to discuss this intelligently, I’m all in but when you use absurd arguments, you already lost the debate.

I was clearly referring to the numerous variances just in one month granted by my HOA for a myriad things including antennas as an example of the flexibility (which you deny exists) when compared with any governmental entity.

When your argument consists solely of towers and what stories are reported by news media, you set a new and high bar for both “crappola” and nonsense.

Simply following your "lead."  If you can't make an intelligent argument, that is not my problem.

Where did I say that your HOA isn't flexible?  Where did I "deny that exists?"  My specific sentence said 'your HOA,' not the 350,000+ across the country that are likely not as flexible. 

You said "news," not me.   

My local municipality has yet to deny any variance, for a myriad of items - that you say does not exist: ....when compared with any governmental entity.   Your words, not mine.


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K1VSK

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Re: check your state's legislative history
« Reply #36 on: January 21, 2022, 02:39:59 PM »





Where did I say that your HOA isn't flexible?  Where did I "deny that exists?"  My specific sentence said 'your HOA,' not the 350,000+ across the country that are likely not as flexible. 



You forgot I never suggested you wrote any of that. If you want to argue, come prepared with something more than hyperbole.

Do you live in an HOA?
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W9FIB

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Re: check your state's legislative history
« Reply #37 on: January 22, 2022, 07:11:49 AM »



With no response so far to my question, I can assume he does not now nor ever has lived in an HOA community. Yet he comments on it with no experience.

To paraphrase, if it walks like a troll, sounds like a troll,…..

I chose not to continue. Yet you needed to push the issue. My past may or may not influence my opinion and does not require me to prove where my opinion originates.

In the case of a technical topic, then some background/experience becomes relevant. Cause I am not afraid to be wrong if people tell me I am wrong and show me my error. I welcome new information and try to learn from it.

Arguing about HOAs fall into the first category. If you don't like what I say, so be it. But commenting on my past without any knowledge would put you in the troll category. Which also does not require me to answer. When everyone else here tells about their past, then I will to. Until then, my commentary is simply my opinion similar to what most post here on non-technical issues.

It is as simple as saying my radio is better than yours. An opinion that does not need an argument as it is simply my opinion. Nor requires any proof.
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K1VSK

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Re: check your state's legislative history
« Reply #38 on: January 22, 2022, 09:18:59 AM »


I chose not to continue. Yet you needed to push the issue. My past may or may not influence my opinion…

Actually, you choose to not answer. The rest is a transparent obfuscation. We know the answer.
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Re: check your state's legislative history
« Reply #39 on: January 22, 2022, 09:39:00 AM »

Thanks for answering my question, Stan...in a roundabout way. What's so hard about just saying "No"? My assumption has now gone to confirmation that you've never lived in an HOA community. Yet you comment about it, like others on this forum topic who've never had the experience (good or bad). When you live in an HOA and have some evidence to back up your opinion, come back here and let us know.

Opinions should be somewhat based on knowledge/experience. Otherwise they're irrelevant. It's like a ham saying..."I've never used a FTDX-10, but I don't like it" ;).
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« Reply #40 on: January 22, 2022, 01:35:07 PM »

Human nature tells you that the answer is no. However the real answer has not been revealed. So I just consider it your opinion, useless as it is. And all the bullying you try makes me less likely to answer.

Carry on.
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« Reply #41 on: January 22, 2022, 01:40:06 PM »

However the real answer has not been revealed.

Yea, it has by act of omission. I can’t think of any reason why you are playing games - honesty shouldn’t embarrass you. Unless,….
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W9FIB

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« Reply #42 on: January 22, 2022, 02:03:26 PM »

However the real answer has not been revealed.

Yea, it has by act of omission. I can’t think of any reason why you are playing games - honesty shouldn’t embarrass you. Unless,….

Cause it's fun watching you make a fool of yourself. Any embarrassment should be on your end. And your continued responses and bullying is hilarious. I will have to check back often so I can further laugh at you!
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« Reply #43 on: January 22, 2022, 04:20:33 PM »

However the real answer has not been revealed.

Yea, it has by act of omission. I can’t think of any reason why you are playing games - honesty shouldn’t embarrass you. Unless,….

Cause it's fun watching you make a fool of yourself. Any embarrassment should be on your end. And your continued responses and bullying is hilarious. I will have to check back often so I can further laugh at you!

When did asking a simple question become “bullying”?

We see a lot of feigned moral superiority in general society these days but not here until now. Good demo!
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« Reply #44 on: January 22, 2022, 05:20:14 PM »

Human nature tells you that the answer is no. However the real answer has not been revealed. So I just consider it your opinion, useless as it is. And all the bullying you try makes me less likely to answer.

Carry on.

Bullying?? I just asked you a simple question to see if your HOA remarks had any relevance. Had you said “yes”, then fair ‘nuff…your opinion would have been valid to me. A “no”, and I would have left it at that. You’re the one that continued this discussion by your refusal to respond with a one word answer. To talk the talk, ‘ya gotta walk the walk ;). No more comments from me on this thread.
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