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N8FVJ

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Re: Dishonest ebay seller W7RF
« Reply #30 on: June 03, 2022, 02:10:06 PM »

Tnx Glenn W9IQ for the detail on why the 8 pin connector is not only just as good to use as the 10 pin but as your explanation shows, even a better choice to use the 8 pin instead of the 10 pin!
Not that this explanation will get N8FVJ to admit how wrong he was in coming after me for providing a perfectly operating amplifier keying cable described accurately in the ad description.
Anything further from him outside of an unconditional apology is just more stubbornness in holding to his position.

100+ buyers all are busy enjoying their radio to amplifier with my cable.
Tnx to all for your kind words and support!
Also tnx to Mike N2MG for watching out on this thread.

73, Dan W7RF
Dan, you are not a Yaesu representative and Yaesu does not recommend using the 8 pin connector for amplifier keying. In fact, no one is Yaesu here and their recommendation to use your cable as a keying cable is against Yaesu. I will go with Yaesu's advise and expertise.

I clearly documented two hams having an issue using the 8 pin connector as a keying cable and issues went away when changed to a 10 pin DIN true keying cable. You refused a refund and would rather keep the profit. The 100 buyers that are using your cable as a keying cable are likely having the same issues as documented, but do not know why.

Bottom line is you sold an item listed as an amplifier keying cable in the title and it is not plus eBay has already refunded me. eBay also stated you are using deceptive advertising and will either remove your ad or have you modify it. Stop acting like the damage person and good guy here with me being the bad guy when you would not even consider a refund. I would not posted this issue if you issued a refund. That alone tells me a lot about your character. IMO you are dishonest and eBay agrees you are falsely advertising the cable.
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Re: Dishonest ebay seller W7RF
« Reply #31 on: June 03, 2022, 02:19:24 PM »

Pay no attention to this rubbish. I've bought from Dan and so have some of my friends. No problems whatsoever. I'm sure that he would be most helpful if needed. Enough said.
Dan refused a refund. That says it all.
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Re: Dishonest ebay seller W7RF
« Reply #32 on: June 03, 2022, 02:22:25 PM »

I’d like to see more technical detail other than saying it doesn’t work.

Is that the wrong jack in the radio to use? Is it the wrong pin?  How is it that it works for some people and yet not recommended by the manufacturer?

To give some technical context, the "key" line is brought out on both the 8 pin tuner jack and the 10 pin linear jack. The Yaesu term for a "key" line is "TX GND".

The 8 pin tuner TX GND and the 10 pin linear TX GND signals are schematically similar. Both are driven from the internal "TXB" signal and each has its own 2SD2403BY in an identical open collector configuration. They have similar heatsinking on the PCB as well.

What is ironic in relation to this thread is that the 8 pin tuner TX GND signal is better conditioned from an RF perspective than the 10 pin linear TX GND signal! The tuner TX GND signal includes a ferrite bead for RFI suppression and an additional bypass capacitor on the base of the open collector driver. 

So with no additional data, I would sooner key the linear from the 8 pin tuner jack than the 10 pin linear jack as it is likely to be more RFI immune.

I see that there are two threads on this same topic (grrrr....), so I will cross post.

- Glenn W9IQ
Glenn, you are advising others that Yaesu states not to perform. I documented two cases of problems using the tuner cable. It is apparent you like Dan, but this is a technical issue and Yaesu says not to use the tuner cable. I guess RF is getting into the radio using the 8 pin DIN connector causing the microprocessor needing a reset. Issue went away using the 10 pin DIN amplifier keying cable with same two Hams.
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N8FVJ

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Re: Dishonest ebay seller W7RF
« Reply #33 on: June 03, 2022, 02:44:32 PM »

Pay no attention to this rubbish. I've bought from Dan and so have some of my friends. No problems whatsoever. I'm sure that he would be most helpful if needed. Enough said.
Dan refused a refund. I did not call Dan a scammer, but did state he in not completely honest. The refund issue says it ll.
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N8FVJ

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Re: Dishonest ebay seller W7RF
« Reply #34 on: June 03, 2022, 03:14:33 PM »

Dan has one negative and six neutral eBay feedback in last year. Neutrals had issues like the negative feedback. All Dan did is reply with excuses. Apparently, the issue with Dan is once it goes out the door it is yours no matter what.
I left positive feedback with a negative statement for Dan as his misguidance on a refund does not warrant a neutral or negative feedback IMO. In other words, I was fair under the no refund issue.
I have been on eBay with a few thousand sales and never a neutral or negative feedback over 11 years. The reason is unlike Dan I back my products. Dan does not.
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W9IQ

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Re: Dishonest ebay seller W7RF
« Reply #35 on: June 03, 2022, 03:27:20 PM »

I’d like to see more technical detail other than saying it doesn’t work.

Is that the wrong jack in the radio to use? Is it the wrong pin?  How is it that it works for some people and yet not recommended by the manufacturer?

To give some technical context, the "key" line is brought out on both the 8 pin tuner jack and the 10 pin linear jack. The Yaesu term for a "key" line is "TX GND".

The 8 pin tuner TX GND and the 10 pin linear TX GND signals are schematically similar. Both are driven from the internal "TXB" signal and each has its own 2SD2403BY in an identical open collector configuration. They have similar heatsinking on the PCB as well.

What is ironic in relation to this thread is that the 8 pin tuner TX GND signal is better conditioned from an RF perspective than the 10 pin linear TX GND signal! The tuner TX GND signal includes a ferrite bead for RFI suppression and an additional bypass capacitor on the base of the open collector driver. 

So with no additional data, I would sooner key the linear from the 8 pin tuner jack than the 10 pin linear jack as it is likely to be more RFI immune.

I see that there are two threads on this same topic (grrrr....), so I will cross post.

- Glenn W9IQ
Glenn, you are advising others that Yaesu states not to perform. I documented two cases of problems using the tuner cable. It is apparent you like Dan, but this is a technical issue and Yaesu says not to use the tuner cable. I guess RF is getting into the radio using the 8 pin DIN connector causing the microprocessor needing a reset. Issue went away using the 10 pin DIN amplifier keying cable with same two Hams.

You are really off the rails - I don't know Dan and I have never bought anything from him. I offered my opinion as a seasoned, professional EE. Perhaps you know better.

- Glenn W9IQ
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Re: Dishonest ebay seller W7RF
« Reply #36 on: June 03, 2022, 03:36:30 PM »

I’d like to see more technical detail other than saying it doesn’t work.

Is that the wrong jack in the radio to use? Is it the wrong pin?  How is it that it works for some people and yet not recommended by the manufacturer?

To give some technical context, the "key" line is brought out on both the 8 pin tuner jack and the 10 pin linear jack. The Yaesu term for a "key" line is "TX GND".

The 8 pin tuner TX GND and the 10 pin linear TX GND signals are schematically similar. Both are driven from the internal "TXB" signal and each has its own 2SD2403BY in an identical open collector configuration. They have similar heatsinking on the PCB as well.

What is ironic in relation to this thread is that the 8 pin tuner TX GND signal is better conditioned from an RF perspective than the 10 pin linear TX GND signal! The tuner TX GND signal includes a ferrite bead for RFI suppression and an additional bypass capacitor on the base of the open collector driver. 

So with no additional data, I would sooner key the linear from the 8 pin tuner jack than the 10 pin linear jack as it is likely to be more RFI immune.

I see that there are two threads on this same topic (grrrr....), so I will cross post.

- Glenn W9IQ
Glenn, you are advising others that Yaesu states not to perform. I documented two cases of problems using the tuner cable. It is apparent you like Dan, but this is a technical issue and Yaesu says not to use the tuner cable. I guess RF is getting into the radio using the 8 pin DIN connector causing the microprocessor needing a reset. Issue went away using the 10 pin DIN amplifier keying cable with same two Hams.

You are really off the rails - I don't know Dan and I have never bought anything from him. I offered my opinion as a seasoned, professional EE. Perhaps you know better.

- Glenn W9IQ
No, I do not know better Glenn, Yaesu does. What do you not understand? You are more expert than Yaesu who manufactures the radio? Geez.
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Re: Dishonest ebay seller W7RF
« Reply #37 on: June 03, 2022, 04:00:56 PM »

I’d like to see more technical detail other than saying it doesn’t work.

Is that the wrong jack in the radio to use? Is it the wrong pin?  How is it that it works for some people and yet not recommended by the manufacturer?

To give some technical context, the "key" line is brought out on both the 8 pin tuner jack and the 10 pin linear jack. The Yaesu term for a "key" line is "TX GND".

The 8 pin tuner TX GND and the 10 pin linear TX GND signals are schematically similar. Both are driven from the internal "TXB" signal and each has its own 2SD2403BY in an identical open collector configuration. They have similar heatsinking on the PCB as well.

What is ironic in relation to this thread is that the 8 pin tuner TX GND signal is better conditioned from an RF perspective than the 10 pin linear TX GND signal! The tuner TX GND signal includes a ferrite bead for RFI suppression and an additional bypass capacitor on the base of the open collector driver. 

So with no additional data, I would sooner key the linear from the 8 pin tuner jack than the 10 pin linear jack as it is likely to be more RFI immune.

I see that there are two threads on this same topic (grrrr....), so I will cross post.

- Glenn W9IQ
Glenn, you are advising others that Yaesu states not to perform. I documented two cases of problems using the tuner cable. It is apparent you like Dan, but this is a technical issue and Yaesu says not to use the tuner cable. I guess RF is getting into the radio using the 8 pin DIN connector causing the microprocessor needing a reset. Issue went away using the 10 pin DIN amplifier keying cable with same two Hams.

You are really off the rails - I don't know Dan and I have never bought anything from him. I offered my opinion as a seasoned, professional EE. Perhaps you know better.

- Glenn W9IQ
No, I do not know better Glenn, Yaesu does. What do you not understand? You are more expert than Yaesu who manufactures the radio? Geez.

How about I send you the $20, you throw the useless to you cable in the garbage and then you sit down and be quiet? Nobody is agreeing with you - take a hint.

And please post a link to your eBay site - I would like to avoid it.

- Glenn W9IQ
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Re: Dishonest ebay seller W7RF
« Reply #38 on: June 03, 2022, 04:47:58 PM »

Glenn, eBay paid me due to lack of seller co-operation. I posted the issues with seller's cable and Yaesu advice not to use the tuner cable as a keying cable. If the posters on the seller side W7RF think my posts have no worthy content as you, DROP IT.
I proved everything with statements from others. I am done here. In fact, I may never post anything on eHam from this point forward.
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Re: Dishonest ebay seller W7RF
« Reply #39 on: June 03, 2022, 04:50:46 PM »

Glenn, eBay paid me due to lack of seller co-operation. I posted the issues with seller's cable and Yaesu advice not to use the tuner cable as a keying cable. If the posters on the seller side W7RF think my posts have no worthy content as you, DROP IT.
I proved everything with statements from others. I am done here. In fact, I may never post anything on eHam from this point forward.

You neglected to post your eBay site link.

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Re: Dishonest ebay seller W7RF
« Reply #40 on: June 03, 2022, 06:04:34 PM »

I ask moderator to remove entire posts. Hams state Yaesu does not know their product including you and apparently other Hams that had issues are lying. This is as ignorant as I ever seen.
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« Reply #41 on: June 03, 2022, 08:21:07 PM »

 Again, all I can say is WOW !
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« Reply #42 on: June 04, 2022, 03:36:33 AM »

I ask moderator to remove entire posts. Hams state Yaesu does not know their product including you and apparently other Hams that had issues are lying. This is as ignorant as I ever seen.

You do realize most consumer questions are answered by people with little to no technical background. They look at the same picture of the rig as you have in your manual. 1 jack says amp, the other jack says tuner. So the uneducated people would assume that only the amp jack will work with an amp. Glen did a fine job of proving the technical side that customer service probably has absolutely no clue how to interpret. Or maybe due to legal issues, they can only recommend the 1 option.

Either way, the preponderance of the evidence is in Dan's favor. I will trust that more than 3 disgruntled hams and an uneducated customer service rep.

Next time pay attention to the details BEFORE you purchase.

Keep up the good work Dan!
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Re: Dishonest ebay seller W7RF
« Reply #43 on: June 04, 2022, 04:26:33 AM »

Cross posting from the other thread on this subject.

The horse is dead. Can we just bury it?

Not a horse - more like a donkey. The OP, after getting an eBay refund, is now reselling the cable on his eBay site.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/155013751964?hash=item24178a249c:g:iJUAAOSwLexikjAD

So much for honesty and integrity.

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Re: Dishonest ebay seller W7RF
« Reply #44 on: June 04, 2022, 05:19:45 AM »

And using Radiodan's picture
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