I didn't lose much money about 15 $ on an item that was never shipped/delivered. Contacted this seller did nothing to refund my money after I requested, kept having me jump thru hoops, and I have really nothing to offer, more his action. Filed with Ebay got told to go to Pay Pal, went to Pay Pal and was told to go thru hoops with Ebay. This Seller did nothing. So, out less than 20$ but was a loser. Never again. Live and learn, and thankfully, not an HF radio buy. Just be wary of this seller.