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N2DTS

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Re: Why so many FT-DX10's for sale? Hello Previous owners?
« Reply #30 on: September 23, 2022, 05:48:37 AM »

Yes, the roofing filters in the FTdx 10 are to get it to #3 on the Sherwood list.
There is nothing wrong with rejecting really strong signals off your operating frequency.
I do not hear any ringing or distortion from the filters, they do not have to be super sharp like they were the ONLY filter. And you CAN select which one is in use.
If you do not NEED to reject a massive CW signal 2 KHz away, you can just use the 3 KHz filter and dial down the dsp filter to what you want, it gives a nice sound.
The audio on the 10 sounds much better then the 7300.
Another improvement over the 7300 is the phase noise, its really low on the 10.
Only two radios top the 10, the 101 and the Kenwood 890.
Less garbage transmitted and a quieter receiver.

Not that the 10 is the worlds best mid price rig, the Icom's have much nicer displays and are easier to use.
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WD4HXG

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Re: Why so many FT-DX10's for sale? Hello Previous owners?
« Reply #31 on: September 26, 2022, 02:52:26 AM »

I was curious why we are seeing a steady stream of the new FT-DX10 radios for sale.

Standard Futile Disclaimer:  PLEASE, no opinions from those who have never
used one, never seen one,  and just like to bash the other brand :-)

Neal

There are likely a number of reasons, not just one.  My guess is one major reason for the large
numbers being sold is, the large number of older ops like myself that cut our teeth on a panel full
of knobs and controls, disappointment with the small touchscreen displays.

Modern rigs with touch screen displays and nested menus simply do not cut the mustard
for me. That is what drove me to ditch the IC7300 I purchased within weeks. I bought
the 7300 based on online testimonials. Lesson learned. I am 70 and the novelty of
trial and error along with the learning curve of the IC7300 was simply more aggravation
then I was willing to tolerate.

It would be interesting to see what response would be forth coming if a rig was delivered
with a large touch screen as opposed to the current miniature panels, ie something big
enough that the screen could handle touch points for most of the nested menu items
on current offerings for fat fingered ops like myself.

Regards

Chuck WD4HXG
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K7JQ

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Re: Why so many FT-DX10's for sale? Hello Previous owners?
« Reply #32 on: September 26, 2022, 05:58:27 AM »


It would be interesting to see what response would be forth coming if a rig was delivered
with a large touch screen as opposed to the current miniature panels, ie something big
enough that the screen could handle touch points for most of the nested menu items
on current offerings for fat fingered ops like myself.

Regards

Chuck WD4HXG

Well, I believe there are large touchscreen radios out there…Flex 6400M and 6600M. They seem to be good performing radios, but I’m not one for weekly software updates and bug fixes (allegedly…so I’ve read and heard) on my radios.

I guess it’s all about what fits your personal operating style and preferences. I’ve been contesting for the last five plus years with two IC-7300’s, and prefer a less-clustered control panel with just the necessary, most used controls, and the menus mostly set-and-forget in the background. In the heat of a contest, I don’t want to have to navigate and fiddle with a crowded bunch of knobs and buttons. For me, the 7300 fits those requirements. I’m 76, one bad eye, and 6’…no problem seeing and using the touchscreens. YMMV.

But it is strange seeing so many FTDX-10’s (and 101D’s) in the classifieds that state they were purchased only a few months prior. Maybe other factors come into play besides stellar (posted) receiver specs?
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N2DTS

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Re: Why so many FT-DX10's for sale? Hello Previous owners?
« Reply #33 on: September 26, 2022, 06:33:45 AM »

My close in vision is going, and I have  big fingers, but I have no issues with the FTdx10.
Been using it quite a bit since I got it and I have no issues with it other then some missing features like being able to adjust the bandwidth in all modes and scope averaging.

The radio seems to work well and be easy to navigate.
Its got two knobs you can set to do whatever you need, plus enough buttons and knobs on the front panel AND the menu screen.
I would think the major issue with the 10 over others would be the screen which is not as high rez
as other radios like the 7300, 7610 or the M series Flex radios, and maybe the TS890.

Radio's that are hard to use really bug me, but the 10 is not one of them.
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KX2T

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Re: Why so many FT-DX10's for sale? Hello Previous owners?
« Reply #34 on: November 11, 2022, 08:57:03 AM »

I think the main reason why you may see some of the Yaesu's for sale is the GUI, I see most of the ham's that sell there FTDX101D/MP are for the Anan not the flex, they want a mouse operated radio or they want a more simpler radio to use like the TS890S but I really don't se anyone down stepping to an IC7610 from a 101D.
The FTDX10 and 101D/MP take time to get used to, they are not as simple as the Icom's plus the Icom's display can be made very sexy in multiple colors if you like so this is were Icom has made an advance in simple to use radio's which is why the 7300 is soo popular. When I went from either a 7300 or even the 7610 to using the FTDX10 it did take some time to get used to, the display was not as pretty as the Icom yet the RX performance really made me listen closer between the two and the Yaesu Ten was netter than the 7610. Both could copy the same stations but the Ten could handle great big signals right next to the operating frequency better plus the selectivity controls did a better job in concert with each other. The RX had less noise and as N2DTS said the phase noise was much lower, the Icom was good but the Yaesu was better. The only reason I  went for the 101D was the second RX plus the VC tune in which it is mainly used in contest but I had to shell allot more out for those two features and to be honest for the type of contesting I do the ten would have did just fine, hell I could have bought another ten and then pick up a cheap amp. I would like a SS amp but I kind of not liking any amp that cannot do well into a 2:1 load and the Acom 1000 does 3:1 without a sweat so still tuning knobs.
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KX2T

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Re: Why so many FT-DX10's for sale? Hello Previous owners?
« Reply #35 on: November 11, 2022, 09:03:41 AM »

As a later note Icom nailed it when the early 756 came out then the 756 Pro series, that display seduced many in the ham marketplace, I know even some in the Technical field thought it was a real spectrum analyzer which it was not but they thought it was and all it did tell is how easy those radio's would show how whatever was driving the display could be overloaded, to this day many display in both Icom, Kenwood and Yaesu are not driven by the main receiver but a separate section just to derive the display which is split somewhere in the front end of the radio. The Anan display I do believe is different but I could be wrong, the Flex I have no idea but.
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