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K1VSK

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Re: Using tree branch overhanging my property
« Reply #15 on: October 11, 2022, 06:55:47 AM »

...  Forgiveness is always easier than permission .....

Mark K5LXP
Albuquerque, NM

That attitude has landed more than one individual in court.  ;)

And some potentially hefty liability for accumulated fines.
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KK4GMU

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Re: Using tree branch overhanging my property
« Reply #16 on: October 13, 2022, 03:39:33 PM »

...  Forgiveness is always easier than permission .....

Mark K5LXP
Albuquerque, NM

That attitude has landed more than one individual in court.  ;)

And some potentially hefty liability for accumulated fines.

My thoughts exactly.  If I'm going to spend time and money on an antenna, I prefer to have full control and not subject to someone else whims, whether a neighbor's or the HOA's - and without being concerned about liability issues that may or may not be legit.
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Re: Using tree branch overhanging my property
« Reply #17 on: October 13, 2022, 07:49:11 PM »

what else could we worry about now that is 'settled"
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Re: Using tree branch overhanging my property
« Reply #18 on: October 14, 2022, 04:36:45 AM »

cut the tree down and put a tower up the same height in it's place

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KK4GMU

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Re: Using tree branch overhanging my property
« Reply #19 on: October 14, 2022, 08:35:18 AM »

cut the tree down and put a tower up the same height in it's place

The "no compromise" antenna in the HOA.  I love it! 8) :) :D
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Re: Using tree branch overhanging my property
« Reply #20 on: October 15, 2022, 07:20:08 AM »

I don't wish to stir up any arguments here nor hijack a thread. Just a general question. How are HOA's in response to a wire antennas? There's a possibility I may move to SC and there seems to be a plethora of HOA's even where the 'land-owner' has over an acre of property. My desire is not erect a tower but use wire antenna's mostly supported by trees, (hence asking on this thread!).
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K1VSK

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Re: Using tree branch overhanging my property
« Reply #21 on: October 15, 2022, 08:59:55 AM »

I don't wish to stir up any arguments here nor hijack a thread. Just a general question. How are HOA's in response to a wire antennas? There's a possibility I may move to SC and there seems to be a plethora of HOA's even where the 'land-owner' has over an acre of property. My desire is not erect a tower but use wire antenna's mostly supported by trees, (hence asking on this thread!).
CC&Rs vary among HOAs so no single answer is possible. Do your due diligence once you narrow the options and read the respective rules as well as local building codes. Some CC&Rs differentiate types of antennas or height or location permitted, others make no distinction while still others are silent on the issue. And obviously there are areas where no HOAs exist despite the myth perpetuated here that everyplace is an HOA.
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KK4GMU

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Re: Using tree branch overhanging my property
« Reply #22 on: October 15, 2022, 09:51:21 AM »

I don't wish to stir up any arguments here nor hijack a thread. Just a general question. How are HOA's in response to a wire antennas? There's a possibility I may move to SC and there seems to be a plethora of HOA's even where the 'land-owner' has over an acre of property. My desire is not erect a tower but use wire antenna's mostly supported by trees, (hence asking on this thread!).

General thoughts on when I will would rather "ask forgiveness rather than ask permission" and vice versa:

I would ask forgiveness rather than ask permission when I install something that requires little cost or effort to install or remove.  Examples may include a small lawn ornament, a flag other than US flag (something cheap), a cheap, temporary experimental antenna and anything that can be easily taken down or removed that can be used in a less conspicuous location.

I would ask permission first when I want to install something that requires significant cost or effort to install or remove. A highly visible tall vertical antenna, a dipole visible to other neighbors or from the street that can't be used anywhere else less visible on your property.

I would not do either (anything that requires asking for forgiveness or permission) whenever I don't want to draw attention to my activity.  This applies especially when I want to keep what I do to be none of anyone else's business. In some communities, once the HOA or nosey neighbors are aware of your activity, some will be scrutinized or blamed for any type of interference they receive, whether caused by you or by something a mile away.
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Re: Using tree branch overhanging my property
« Reply #23 on: October 15, 2022, 02:43:09 PM »

I have a relative who has a fenced yard with an overhanging oak tree.  When I visit, I get near the fence, shoot (slingshot) parallel to the fence so that the line goes over the limb and falls in our yard.  I pull up my handy but fiddly end-fed random wire (AWG #14, black) antenna (9:1 transformer) and operate for a couple of days. Everything is in our yard, and the antenna is low profile.  Given that this relative lives near a bunch of salt water, I've had pretty good luck operating portable this way.

Small diameter wire with a small insulator may not even be noticed, especially for  evening and night operations.
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Re: Using tree branch overhanging my property
« Reply #24 on: October 16, 2022, 12:20:27 PM »

I would say go for it, he probably won’t even notice it. If he says anything I would just take it down and go to plan B.
Spoken like a true-blue ham. Total lack of respect for personal property, safety, etiquette, and basic operating principles. i would have your but in court and turn you code enforcement agency to teach you a lesson. You give hams a really bad well-earned reputation.
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W9WQA

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Re: Using tree branch overhanging my property
« Reply #25 on: October 16, 2022, 08:54:57 PM »

YOU SHOULD not leave your tree grow into my airspace
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WA3SKN

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Re: Using tree branch overhanging my property
« Reply #26 on: October 23, 2022, 09:42:10 AM »

I say just put up one of those metal and plastic cell phone "tree towers" in the back yard.  If the HOA questions it you say "It just grew overnight!" !

-Mike.
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W9WQA

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Re: Using tree branch overhanging my property
« Reply #27 on: October 23, 2022, 10:05:55 AM »

I would say go for it, he probably won’t even notice it. If he says anything I would just take it down and go to plan B.
Spoken like a true-blue ham. Total lack of respect for personal property, safety, etiquette, and basic operating principles. i would have your but in court and turn you code enforcement agency to teach you a lesson. You give hams a really bad well-earned reputation.

wow, you must be a wonderful man...perfect in all ways
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KK4GMU

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Re: Using tree branch overhanging my property
« Reply #28 on: October 23, 2022, 12:51:27 PM »

Part of being stealth in an HOA is not
bringing excess attention or triggering your neighbors by doing things that are too different or questionable.
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Re: Using tree branch overhanging my property
« Reply #29 on: October 23, 2022, 05:43:36 PM »

Part of being stealth in an HOA is not
bringing excess attention or triggering your neighbors by doing things that are too different or questionable.
Again spoken like a true ham. A blatant disregard to rules, and a threat to public safety. Being a professional engineer i pride myself in putting hams in their place. I have shut down many hams in HOA's and I have both this website and QRZ to prove the point. For example, if you live in an area where there are electrical codes and code enforcement, I can shut any ham down with a vertical monopole. There is not a single one of them that can meet codes. Easy to prove the operator has a complete disregard of public safety. You erect an antenna with exposed live dangerous voltages without any barriers or warning signs. Hams go out of their way to conceal who they are. Very easy to prove. There are dozens of companies who make stealth antennas to intentionally violate all known basic safety practices. Go to QRZ and this website to seek advice how to do it. In fact, QRZ has been named in lawsuits, and the owner is so paranoid he no longer allows the public to view the conspiracy he takes part in. 

Just look at all the conspirators in this thread and hundreds more just like it. The owner of this site openly encourages violating all safety and electrical codes with a sticky    It's unhelpful to tell people to avoid HOAs and the like.. When i find a stealth antenna, I make all the neighbors aware of the danger and report them to authorities. So, keep it up guys, you make it easy.
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