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N4MJG

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still working on the code
« on: October 10, 2022, 11:00:48 AM »

Hi all,

I'm still working on my code so close almost ready to get on cw been practive sending alot just few letters and number then i'm done with g4fon app of learning ! i had alot of fun doing this ,I been on and off so many times since they drop the code !

I learned alot trying get my brain to learn the sound  of each letters and numbers most of us having hard time to understand ! i can do 10 wpm if i copy 10 wpm in my head going take me time to do this ! i'll be watching on sked on skcc from time to time.

73
Jackie
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« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2022, 11:46:01 AM »

Good show Jackie.

Having been a ham for 55 years, with 90% of my QSO's on CW, it just takes practice and time.  Look around the upper margins of the CW segments for each band and you'll find others also working to enhance their morse code speed.

For me in my early years, I found that opening a book and sending the text on a code practice oscillator, allowed me to increase my recognition rate faster than listening to morse code and doing the head translation.  Others will suggest that listening, instead of sending characters, was easier.  My point is that you may want to try both methods to increase your CW speed.
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W0CKI

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« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2022, 12:19:46 PM »

Jackie, I'm 81 years old and relearning the code. Now almost all my contacts are CW. I practice every day and I am now comfortable at 20 wpm. Keep working on it. As someone else suggested, look in the upper part of the CW segments. Lots of guys sending at slower speeds.
GL, 73 Gary
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« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2022, 01:09:10 PM »

 8) 8) 8)

Tnx people for your gud work

Practice sending everyday.

It enhances the learning process and makes your fist better.

You all are an inspiration !

Hang in there.

73

Larry ns4q ..
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KE6SLS

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« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2022, 02:49:15 PM »


best way to really learn code is real QSO's at a speed just a bit faster then you think you can handle.  The positive pressure of trying to understand each thing on the other end just helps me so much.  What's the name?  The QTH?  What's MY rst?  Rig, antenna. 

When I was busy trying to learn the code, my daily practice was ALL traffic signs!  I would say each letter out loud.  Then license plates.  Then names. 

Have FUN!  I just worked my neighbor last week (his VERY FIRST live, on air QSO) and I had a blast.  His fist is already amazing!

Again, have fun :)

73
j
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« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2022, 05:04:34 PM »

Had to do CW for my general class, albeit 5 wpm. I was at my best able to send @ 12 wpm could copy 15. Stop using CW, about to 15–18 years ago.
  For whatever reason, I want to relearn code, picked up a set of Bencher paddles, always used a straight key wound up getting frustrated main reason I stopped.
  Here we are, years later, gonna get the g4fon  software start to relearn code. Still remember cq/call sign couple of letters not much else. Here’s to relearning code!
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K8AXW

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« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2022, 09:19:54 AM »

I have never understood working so hard to master a craft and then letting it go....for any reason! 

I was a Morse intercept operator, meaning I was a good CW man.  I have talked to former intercept operators and they, for the most part, no longer even know the code!

Now I read over and over on this forum people busting their butts to RE-LEARN a craft they once mastered. 

For decades I've attributed this to "lack of interest."  Attributed....but not REALLY understanding.
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ZL1BBW

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« Reply #7 on: October 13, 2022, 01:31:10 PM »

I have never understood working so hard to master a craft and then letting it go....for any reason! 

I was a Morse intercept operator, meaning I was a good CW man.  I have talked to former intercept operators and they, for the most part, no longer even know the code!

Now I read over and over on this forum people busting their butts to RE-LEARN a craft they once mastered. 

For decades I've attributed this to "lack of interest."  Attributed....but not REALLY understanding.

Thank you for saying this, I have often sat here and thought WHY.

BUT, good on people for getting that deep long lost skill back to the forefront of their mind.

Was a Maritime Radio Officer and worked in a Post Office shore station, so was reasonably adept at CW, for me when I got back on the air I was surprised at how it did come back, maybe its the only thing I have ever learnt to do properly in my whole life.

Hopefully when we get moved off out 15 acres into something smaller I will have more time for conversational cw qso's.

Keep the skill alive folks.
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« Reply #8 on: October 14, 2022, 09:10:37 AM »

BBW:  It finally occurred to me WHY some "forget" the code and others don't even though both groups have strayed away from it.

Those who never forget the code enjoyed using code and were good at it.  The intercept operators that I referred to never used their hard learned craft to enjoy 'conversational' Morse! 

I suspect those hams who used Morse for communications at one time and now find it necessary to re-learn it never were really comfortable with it.

I'm now inclined to believe that those who enjoyed using Morse, rather they be professionals or hams, will never forget it.



Perhaps this is one of the never mentioned benefits that comes with "head copy." 
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ZL1BBW

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« Reply #9 on: October 14, 2022, 03:29:14 PM »

AXW...

We only really did head copy when on watch on a ship, you had 500 on the speaker or phones all the time, and if within coast stn range, you had to keep an ear open for  GDVS QTC DE GLD or similar, and when the 2 hrly GKA tfc list was on, copy the first few into the log just to ensure that there were no GABC or similar, then sit there while the list ploughed on at 25 - 30wpm and start copying it into the log again just before your call and then a few after.

I always used to try and do an extra neat layout/copy of a Ships Letter Telegram, what we took on the point was then folded and put straight into an envelope for delivery by mail, so it was always nice to try and get the Address box neat and square, the text nicely laid out, and the sig  Love Bill or whatever neatly at the bottom.

Then there we the little well known codes that were often in a personal QTC, SWALK,    BURMA,   NORWICH  etc.

Cheers  Gavin
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« Reply #10 on: October 14, 2022, 09:05:51 PM »

Gavin:  I have never taken deliverable messages using CW.

While in Germany I did run phone patches for the troops on 20m phone.  This was back when phone calls used the trans Atlantic cable at $13.00/minute and always had a waiting list, sometimes for days.  I don't know if any of our people ever used that service.   

We usually had a shack full of men hoping that we would connect with someone close to their home town. 

There was no privacy and emotions ran from euphoria to dismay.  But, we all understood and what transpired in the shack never left the shack.

It was an experience I'll never forget.  I can only imagine some of the traffic you handled.

I know what SWABK means but not the rest.   ;D



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ZL1BBW

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« Reply #11 on: October 14, 2022, 09:51:44 PM »

Gavin:  I have never taken deliverable messages using CW.

While in Germany I did run phone patches for the troops on 20m phone.  This was back when phone calls used the trans Atlantic cable at $13.00/minute and always had a waiting list, sometimes for days.  I don't know if any of our people ever used that service.   

We usually had a shack full of men hoping that we would connect with someone close to their home town. 

There was no privacy and emotions ran from euphoria to dismay.  But, we all understood and what transpired in the shack never left the shack.

It was an experience I'll never forget.  I can only imagine some of the traffic you handled.

I know what SWABK means but not the rest.   ;D

SWALK = sealed with a loving kiss
BURMA = be undressed ready my angel  :o
NORWICH = nickers off ready when I come home  :o

Yes on the phone patches, when we used to have a warship come up, there maybe 200 plus calls, so we would get 10 numbers and get one call going then start to ring the next 9 and tell them to keep the line clear, all calls were 3 mins, at 2,30 ring the next number and as they took the phones off bill and put them on harry we would flick the call over and off they would go.  This worked fine, until Jim needed to to the loo so swopped places with Alex and they didnt tell you, sometimes it took a good while before they realised they were talking to the wrong wife.

Happy days, hope all is good over there, just starting to get some really nice spring/summer days up here in the sub tropical North.

Cheers  Gavin

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« Reply #12 on: October 15, 2022, 09:51:49 AM »

Gavin:  Our patches ran from 5 minutes to half hour depending on many factors.

Our leaves are turning, days are much shorter and getting cooler, especially at night.

When this happens I alwaysthink of ZL & VK blokes.  I HATE WINTER!!
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« Reply #13 on: November 11, 2022, 05:42:56 AM »

I knew code when i was 10 and was fairly decent at it.
But nature takes its course and interest changes things.
A full time job and raising a family took up a lot of time.
So its been almost 52 years since ive used code.
So pretty much relearning it.
I can recognize some characters at 20 to 25 wpm. But i still have a ways to go.
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« Reply #14 on: November 11, 2022, 09:35:42 AM »

TEC: It's good that you're relearning it OM.  Too many wait too long!  Learning/re-learning code (or any mental exercise for that matter) is good for the brain and even one's overall well being. 

Hang in there.  While you're re-learning, listen to on-the-air CW.  It may just stimulate long forgotten characters you 'forgot.'
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