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KD6VXI

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Do your due diligence......
« on: November 09, 2022, 09:55:21 AM »

I was looking at an ANAN today.

https://forums.qrz.com/index.php?threads/anan-7000dle-mkii.837775/

He makes the statement: 

"Bought it directly from Australia
Not to mention Purse Signal and Diversity functionality, a game changer

Never used on DIG modes, only SSB paired up with Behringer UMC 202HD (not included on the bundle)"

Then I looked up his logbook.  I looked at the last year.

Hasn't had an SSB contact in literally months.  All FT4 or FT8.

When someone asked how new the radio is, his response was : 

"Radio produced lil' over a year ago.
73s"


I was born at night, but it wasn't last night.

--Shane
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Still on the hunt for an Anan.

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AF5CC

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Re: Do your due diligence......
« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2022, 10:07:16 AM »

I have seen quite a few sellers requesting payment by Zelle over the past year.  Remember that Zelle is like Paypal Friends and Family.  You get no buyer protection at all from it.  Any seller can take your money and run and you have no recourse of action in such a situation.  Stick with paypal goods and services.

73 John AF5CC
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KD6VXI

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« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2022, 10:33:19 AM »

I won't use anything other than Goods and Services.  If they say no, I don't need it that bad.

Been burned once for a TS850SAT.  I had to ship the damn thing back to the east coast to get my money back, which was a chunk of the funds I was getting returned.  As far as I'm concerned, once PayPal decides in your favor, shipping and everything else should be clawed back from the original seller.

I felt kind of bad.  I bought the radio from party A and didn't realize I was sending money to party B in another state.  I looked up party B, and he was a cop.  OK, cool.

Then I found out it was actually party A radio.  Looked him up, while the radio was in transit, and he's a known scam artist.  Also found out he had been burned by ANOTHER scam artist and was just trying to offload a pile of junk.

Party B lost his PayPal account over it.  He refused to help me get my money back from his "friend" whom had scammed me.  Oh well, shouldn't have participated in the scam.  I lost a hundred bucks in that deal, due to having to pay shipping back.

The only other time I had someone try to scam me was a kid whom sold me a car stereo back in 2000 via ebay.  After two weeks I still didn't have my stereo.  So I found out who he was, called his mother and she whipped his a$$.  She also sent me the stereo next day air.

If they say friends and family and I really want it, I'll tack the percentage on for goods and services.  I'm protected. 

--Shane
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SWMAN

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« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2022, 11:39:28 AM »

 Just don’t use any of those modern day payment methods and you won’t have any problems, real simple. Not sure why people use that type of crap payments anyway.
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K7LZR

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« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2022, 11:53:05 AM »

I have seen quite a few sellers requesting payment by Zelle over the past year.  Remember that Zelle is like Paypal Friends and Family.  You get no buyer protection at all from it.  Any seller can take your money and run and you have no recourse of action in such a situation.  Stick with paypal goods and services.

73 John AF5CC

The reason for more Zelle requests is the new asinine IRS reporting requirement and associated having to prove profit/loss. Could be wrong but I don't think that Zelle is required to send 1099 forms.....
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KD6VXI

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« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2022, 12:10:57 PM »

Just don’t use any of those modern day payment methods and you won’t have any problems, real simple. Not sure why people use that type of crap payments anyway.

Right.  Because if I had used that old fashioned pay with a check or cash, I would have had recourse.

No, I would have been out hundreds of dollars.

I've been buying and selling stuff off and on since the yellow sheet days.  Back then, when you bought from a ham, you where pretty sure you would get what you where led to believe you where buying.

Today, not so much.

Being that I live on an island thousands of miles away from anything remotely resembling a ham radio or electronics store....  It pretty much means I'm at the mercy of mail order.  There has <<never>> been a hamfest on this chain of islands.  We have 3 full time hams.  We have one CBer.  What would you propose I do, Einstein?

But to not use electronic payment methods is just dumb....

--Shane
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KD6VXI

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Re: Do your due diligence......
« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2022, 12:12:47 PM »

I have seen quite a few sellers requesting payment by Zelle over the past year.  Remember that Zelle is like Paypal Friends and Family.  You get no buyer protection at all from it.  Any seller can take your money and run and you have no recourse of action in such a situation.  Stick with paypal goods and services.

73 John AF5CC

Not really.

"If you’re among the millions of people who use payment apps like PayPal, Venmo, Square, and other third-party electronic payment networks, you could be affected by a tax reporting change that goes into effect in January.

Payment app providers will have to start reporting to the IRS a user’s business transactions if, in aggregate, they total $600 or more for the year. A business transaction is defined as payment for a good or service."

Then again, most American's aren't smart enough to look it up, so I would tend to think you are probably correct.  Run from paypal, they are going to 10-99 you.

And then they act like they got screwed when another processor sends them, and the IRS, a 1099.

--Shane
WP2ASS / ex KD6VXI

The reason for more Zelle requests is the new asinine IRS reporting requirement and associated having to prove profit/loss. Could be wrong but I don't think that Zelle is required to send 1099 forms.....
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KC6RWI

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« Reply #7 on: November 09, 2022, 12:28:23 PM »

Hello,  Shane,
do you ever discover a garage sale or old equipment for parts on the island?
Just asking as its always nice to have some junk to pull parts from.
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K7JQ

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« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2022, 12:45:16 PM »

I limit buying anything used to maximum $150. If it comes in not as advertised, and the seller goes MIA on emails or phone calls for remedy, I'll chalk it up to a bad decision. Not a huge financial loss, and I won't lose sleep over it. So far, all has been good. Otherwise, everything gets bought new from a reputable vendor.
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W9AC

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« Reply #9 on: November 09, 2022, 01:25:07 PM »

"The reason for more Zelle requests is the new asinine IRS reporting requirement and associated having to prove profit/loss. Could be wrong but I don't think that Zelle is required to send 1099 forms..."

Just wait, starting in early 2023 when a flood of IRS 1099s get issued from online sales.  I've already stopped selling on eBay. 

Paul, W9AC
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« Reply #10 on: November 09, 2022, 02:33:12 PM »

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K3UIM

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« Reply #11 on: November 09, 2022, 05:03:17 PM »

We have one CBer.

Who does HE talk to?  :)
With an illegal ham band amplifier, just about anyone! :-X
Charlie
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KD6VXI

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« Reply #12 on: November 10, 2022, 02:56:10 AM »

We have one CBer.

Who does HE talk to?  :)

We live 40 some miles from Puerto Rico.  He's Puerto Rican, from his accent.

Puerto Rico has no shortage of large cb stations.  I know of more than a couple capable of pinning 25kw bird elements.

A friend works for the tower manufacturer in Florida.  He told me about 18 months ago that some of his best customers are those guys in Puerto Rico with no ham license.

Do the math.  Cb is huge on Puerto Rico.  And with nothing but a salty ocean between us......

--Shane
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KD6VXI

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« Reply #13 on: November 10, 2022, 03:01:04 AM »

Hello,  Shane,
do you ever discover a garage sale or old equipment for parts on the island?
Just asking as its always nice to have some junk to pull parts from.

Nope.

There are probably ten or more Facebook groups for sales.  Nothing radio or electronics related.

Craigslist is almost dead here.  Mainland transplants use it, but that's about it.

I often wondered if CB or ham was ever big here....  And if so, where is the old equipment!

But nope.  I found the CB guy in Frederiksted and one guy at work has a cobra 29 in his jeep.  It was in it when he bought it at auction in Texas and shipped it here.  He said he's never turned it on.

There is sometimes some old stereo stuff that comes up, but 'I know what I got and I know what it's worth'......   So I pass.

A friend stateside recently sent me 3 boxes of old electronics parts and a couple broken cb radios.   February I go back stateside and will be loading a 40 foot C Train with all my stuff.  So I'll at least have 30 years worth of parts lol.  What I'll do with them I have no idea.

I gave away a 100kva Pete Dahl power supply when I moved here. Weighed 600 lbs and I was tired of dealing with it.  Not like I'll ever use it here.  I have 7 houses on my 25 kva pole pig. 

--Shane
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KD6VXI

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Re: Do your due diligence......
« Reply #14 on: November 10, 2022, 03:02:28 AM »

We have one CBer.

Who does HE talk to?  :)
With an illegal ham band amplifier, just about anyone! :-X
Charlie

He said he has an FT450 and no amplifier.  He runs 27.555 and the Caribbean frequency 27.530.  To each his own.  He has fun and isn't bothering anyone. 

--Shane
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