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K4QE

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Re: I hope the ARRL is on this, like flies on horse manure.
« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2022, 04:05:47 PM »

I wholeheartedly support AM radio, but this is not a fight in which the ARRL should expend valuable resources.  They should remain focused on issues directly related to ham radio.

There are elected officials already speaking out about the need to keep AM radio viable for all Americans.

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AF5CC

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« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2022, 04:53:44 PM »

If the electric cars are interfering with AM radio that badly, think what it will do to our reception on the low bands as well.  Definitely a fight the ARRL should take up!

73 John AF5CC
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K1VSK

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« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2022, 05:28:38 PM »

Does anyone still listen to AM radio?
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K6SDW

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« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2022, 05:32:56 PM »

Does anyone still listen to AM radio?

Nope and neither do I listen to FM radio unless you like wall to wall commericals with someone screaming at ya... it's satellite radio all the way here and less than $10/month for a popular provider! And its only programming I like and no one pushing crap I don't need.

I use to run HF mobile, but FT8 changed that paradigm.

GL/73
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KF4HR

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« Reply #5 on: December 11, 2022, 05:51:27 PM »

Assuming EV's really are interfering with AM broadcasting, sounds like an issue for the FCC, not the ARRL.
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K1VSK

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« Reply #6 on: December 11, 2022, 06:09:28 PM »

Assuming EV's really are interfering with AM broadcasting, sounds like an issue for the FCC, not the ARRL.
Given the FCC is part of our government, they will surely tackle this problem effectively…

I suspect most people listen only to FM and then only when their Sirius or Apple membership lapses.
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W7XTV

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« Reply #7 on: December 11, 2022, 06:50:59 PM »

Assuming EV's really are interfering with AM broadcasting, sounds like an issue for the FCC, not the ARRL.

I don't own an EV, so I have no first-hand knowledge of problems with their internal Ancient Modulation radios.  However, when driving directly next to or behind an EV, I hear no interference whatsoever.  They must be shielded well enough to prevent it.

The ARRL needs to stay out of this one, as it's no concern for us hams.  The FCC will do as they're told by Congress.  But really, how many folks younger than 65 listen to AM in the first place, other than for sports?  My guess is somewhere barely north of None.
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K9RJ

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« Reply #8 on: December 11, 2022, 07:55:59 PM »

I often listen to AM and Fm when driving. When driving far away from urban areas,  I frequently listen to AM for sports. It would be nice to keep it.
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« Reply #9 on: December 11, 2022, 09:16:32 PM »

I have an EV (Chevy Bolt) with an AM/FM radio. I use AM from time to time with no noticeable issue. As hams know, EMI can cause all kinds of issue with electronic devices, beyond radio interference, so I expect EMI mitigation is designed in from the start.

I think eliminating AM might just be a cost savings, and the antenna might be one of the bigger issues.
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KH6AQ

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« Reply #10 on: December 11, 2022, 09:26:24 PM »

Vehicles already are designed and built to meet several EMC standards.

Automotive Electromagnetic Compatibility (EMC) Test Standards    https://learnemc.com/automotive-emc-test-standards
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« Reply #11 on: December 12, 2022, 03:10:13 AM »

 Hopefully they will not get rid of AM. I listen every day. That is the only way I get my local and recent news. That’s also how I get my weather broadcasts. I don’t watch the news on TV.
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K4JJL

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« Reply #12 on: December 12, 2022, 06:51:25 AM »

The powerlines in my area make more noise than the electric cars.
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K4GTE

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« Reply #13 on: December 12, 2022, 07:01:21 AM »

AM broadcast is not an ARRL issue. It's an FCC issue. It does not affect amateur radio operations.
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W7XTV

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« Reply #14 on: December 12, 2022, 08:05:05 AM »

Hopefully they will not get rid of AM. I listen every day. That is the only way I get my local and recent news. That’s also how I get my weather broadcasts. I don’t watch the news on TV.

AM as an allocation isn't going anywhere, but I'm willing to bet that close to half of all existing AM stations will go off the air in the next 10 years.  The shutdown is already starting, and has been going on in Canada and Mexico for years.  The main reason is that even the big 50 kW blowtorches have become unprofitable without an FM counterpart.  Also, at least in large metro areas, the land the towers sit on is worth more than the station itself.  That is not a good combination.
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