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N5PZJ

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2023 Emergency Preparedness Act
« on: December 25, 2022, 08:50:01 PM »

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K1VSK

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Re: 2023 Emergency Preparedness Act
« Reply #1 on: December 26, 2022, 06:52:24 AM »

Making the same mistake over and over and over…. Is called ____________.
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W3SLK

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Re: 2023 Emergency Preparedness Act
« Reply #2 on: December 26, 2022, 07:20:26 AM »

K1VSK said:
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Making the same mistake over and over and over…. Is called ____________.
I don't know what it is called but the philosopher George Santayana said, "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it!" Albert Einstein is credited with saying, "The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and expecting a different result!"
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AI5BC

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Re: 2023 Emergency Preparedness Act
« Reply #3 on: December 26, 2022, 07:37:19 AM »

Another nail in amateur radio coffin.
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K1VSK

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Re: 2023 Emergency Preparedness Act
« Reply #4 on: December 26, 2022, 08:46:55 AM »

K1VSK said:
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Making the same mistake over and over and over…. Is called ____________.
I don't know what it is called but the philosopher George Santayana said, "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it!" Albert Einstein is credited with saying, "The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and expecting a different result!"
I was paraphrasing.

Apparently, someone thinks putting a different label on the same impotent effort somehow changes anything.
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K5YDD

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Re: 2023 Emergency Preparedness Act
« Reply #5 on: December 26, 2022, 08:56:06 AM »

If by a miracle, it passed, after being introduced in the Congressional session, would any ham be opposed?
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N5PZJ

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Re: 2023 Emergency Preparedness Act
« Reply #6 on: December 26, 2022, 11:13:15 AM »

If by a miracle, it passed, after being introduced in the Congressional session, would any ham be opposed?

You have hams that would oppose the opening of 20 meter band before daylight!   

You bet you’ve got ham opposed to anything the league proposes, it takes all types to make this world go round. 
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K1VSK

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Re: 2023 Emergency Preparedness Act
« Reply #7 on: December 26, 2022, 11:49:42 AM »

If by a miracle, it passed, after being introduced in the Congressional session, would any ham be opposed?

There were a number of hams on the ARRL BOD who opposed the last (equivalent) iteration for a number of good reasons which was the reason the League withdrew support. This is the same language with lipstick painted on the title to confuse the simple-minded who look only at the label.

The better question is why the ARRL doesn’t try fixing the problems which sank this boat.
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N5PZJ

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Re: 2023 Emergency Preparedness Act
« Reply #8 on: December 26, 2022, 04:09:42 PM »

If by a miracle, it passed, after being introduced in the Congressional session, would any ham be opposed?

Simple-minded

The better question is why the ARRL doesn’t try fixing the problems which sank this boat.

Then fix the problem. 
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WA9AFM

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Re: 2023 Emergency Preparedness Act
« Reply #9 on: December 26, 2022, 05:24:14 PM »

Making the same mistake over and over and over…. Is called ____________.

You'll miss 100% of shots your never take.
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KF0QS

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Re: 2023 Emergency Preparedness Act
« Reply #10 on: January 01, 2023, 10:23:14 PM »

I sure would like to hear someone's reasoning why they think the proposal is bad.  It's much broader in antenna protection than the version that got killed a couple of years ago.

So, what's wrong with this proposal?
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Re: 2023 Emergency Preparedness Act
« Reply #11 on: January 02, 2023, 04:26:47 AM »

I sure would like to hear someone's reasoning why they think the proposal is bad.  It's much broader in antenna protection than the version that got killed a couple of years ago.

So, what's wrong with this proposal?

Ditto

Let's hear your gripes
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K1VSK

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Re: 2023 Emergency Preparedness Act
« Reply #12 on: January 02, 2023, 10:27:40 AM »

I sure would like to hear someone's reasoning why they think the proposal is bad.  It's much broader in antenna protection than the version that got killed a couple of years ago.

So, what's wrong with this proposal?

Not “gripes” but your implication by labeling any contrary judgment as such is telling.

I wonder how many actually read the Bill. It isn’t fundamentally different than past iterations but now comes with the fancy but misleading title like a lot of other Bills which have little to do with either the intent or substance.

Essentially, it is a performance standard rather than a definition of what is a “reasonable” antenna. That concept is an improvement on its predecessors. For example, it stipulates “not visible from the street” similar to the standard our HOA has.

What people likely haven’t thought through is the unintended consequence(s) should the next Congress enact something similar. For example, it forces an HOA to write prescriptive rules rather than allow flexibility. And HOAs generally aren’t that interested in accommodating antennas.

One certainty - it is unlikely to remain in its current form through the legislative process and isn’t being pushed by either homeowner’ associations or HOA residents which has historically meant failure to answer the two threshold questions legislators always ask - what is the need and  how many people benefit?
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Re: 2023 Emergency Preparedness Act
« Reply #13 on: January 02, 2023, 06:18:41 PM »

H.R. 9670      https://www.arrl.org/files/file/HR9670/HR9670-Amateur-Radio-Emergency-Preparedness-Act.pdf

Page 7, line 22 would help immensely. "Antennas That Do Not Require Prior Approval..." These antennas include the popular 43' vertical.
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K1VSK

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Re: 2023 Emergency Preparedness Act
« Reply #14 on: January 02, 2023, 07:41:22 PM »

H.R. 9670      https://www.arrl.org/files/file/HR9670/HR9670-Amateur-Radio-Emergency-Preparedness-Act.pdf

Page 7, line 22 would help immensely. "Antennas That Do Not Require Prior Approval..." These antennas include the popular 43' vertical.
In context with the Bill’s language regarding visibility, you’d need a 44 ft high house to obstruct it from the street.

There are a number of similar contradictions including that which i would think any congressperson who worked on this “for a year” should know.
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