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K3STX

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Re: 3Y0J Bouvet
« Reply #45 on: January 19, 2023, 12:48:07 PM »

Ha Ha Ha. What an idiot I am!!
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Re: 3Y0J Bouvet
« Reply #46 on: January 19, 2023, 09:32:57 PM »

From Steve N2AJ and the Bouvet Facebook Page:

3Y0J Bouvet Island 2023 Update:

Based on the popularity of our previous Question & Answer update I am going to include it again today after some news.

The Marama continues to make steady progress towards Bouvet. The boat’s speed has been anywhere from 7-9 mph. Unfortunately they are no longer receiving Starlink internet service and they don’t know if or when they will be able to receive it again during travel. We still have two other means of communication with the team including the Icom Satellite Radios. Cezar gave me an update on the team’s condition two days ago. He wrote again yesterday and told me it’s about the same. Most of the team is still feeling the effects of seasickness despite having taken various medicines for it. Only Peter and Cezar did not take the medicine and therefore don’t have the dizziness that seems to be associated with taking it. Bill, Axel, and Mike seem to suffer the least. The rest prefer to lay down rather than eat dinner. We are hoping that the situation improves over the next couple of days so the rest of the voyage will be more pleasant for the entire team.

Question & Answers

Q:  On FT8 mode will 3Y0J be F/H or MSHV?
A: FT8 operation will always be F/H with no exceptions.

Q: Why isn't the Marama broadcasting it's position via AIS?  I thought ALL vessels had to do that like airplanes.
A: “The terrestrial-AIS-based MarineTraffic system does not cover 100% of the world's seas, but only specific coastal areas where a land-based AIS receiver is installed. Wider areas are covered with the addition of Satellite-AIS.
More info: https://help.marinetraffic.com/hc/en-us/articles/203990958-Why-cannot-I-see-a-vessel-on-the-Live-Map-
Note: The best way to track the 3Y0J Team is going to be using this garmin GPS link.
share.garmin.com/3Y0J

Q: Why did Marama sail to Bouvet from the Falkland Islands instead of South Africa which is much closer to Bouvet?
A: Marama is a sailboat. It uses the wind for propulsion when it can. This saves diesel fuel. The prevailing winds always blow from West to East. Bouvet is to the East of the Falkland Islands. So it makes sense to sail with the wind at your back as opposed to sailing into the wind.

An Appeal To All To Support 3Y0J:

The last item I would like to discuss with you today is making a donation to 3Y0J if you have not done so already, or making an additional donation if you have donated before, or ordering some 3Y0J Official Merchandise from one our 3Y0J Official Merchandise Suppliers. Why is this important? Because every donation you make, and every piece of merchandise you buy, helps to fund this DXpedition. Maybe you’re thinking that 3Y0J has already achieved their fundraising goal of $815,000. That’s true, but the additional funds that come in now will help to reimburse the 3Y0J Team Members for the $25,000 they each paid just to be part of the 3Y0J Bouvet Island 2023 DXpedition. Look what this team is going through to try to give us an All Time New One, a new mode, or a new band. Let’s all show them that we appreciate what they are going through for us. And besides, 3Y0J Official Gear is what you want to be wearing, or drinking your coffee from, when you work Bouvet for that ATNO. I’ve got the 3Y0J beenie hat, the tee shirt, and the 15oz corporate sponsors coffee mug. Thank you for your consideration.

Individual Donation Page:
https://www.3y0j.no/individualdonors

Bouvet 2023 Official Merchandise:
https://www.bonfire.com/store/bouvet-dxpedition-2023/

Bouvet 2023 Official Merchandise:
SQ1K Bart’s Shop on EBay:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/175501912851
Check out his other 3Y0J items too.

73, Steve N2AJ
Media Officer & NA East Coast Pilot
3Y0J Bouvet Island 2023 DXpedition
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Re: 3Y0J Bouvet
« Reply #47 on: January 19, 2023, 09:56:43 PM »

The difference between 7 & 9 MPH (roughly 6 and 8 knots) is 3 1/2 days at sea. 15 days versus 11.5 days of travel.

Some Hams have stated Thierry and his operation (FT8WW) are "heroic".  An "unbelievable" personal sacrifice to activate #3 DXCC Most Wanted. Some are calling for him to be nominated for "DXpedition of The Year".

Think about that for awhile while you're trying to get your head around what this dozen DXpeditioners are going through - in just the last few days.

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Re: 3Y0J Bouvet
« Reply #48 on: January 20, 2023, 04:16:57 AM »

Looking at the wave forecasts, the captain has done a nice job of keeping seas to a minimum for them so far - only 6 - 9ft waves.  But there are A LOT of 12 - 18 ft wave areas out there and they are quickly going to have to make some comfort vs "get there" decisions as to how long it takes them.  This trip could easily extend to 15 days depending on those decisions.

They really are paying the price right now for the sailboat decision.  Not questioning it, just saying they are paying the comfort price. 

I was surprised how little gear they actually had in the pictures.  Contrast that to the failed helicopter ship attempt.  Its quite striking.

Kudos to this team.  They are not faint hearted, I will give them that.

Ed  N1UR
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Re: 3Y0J Bouvet
« Reply #49 on: January 20, 2023, 05:46:17 AM »


Some Hams have stated Thierry and his operation (FT8WW) are "heroic".  An "unbelievable" personal sacrifice to activate #3 DXCC Most Wanted. Some are calling for him to be nominated for "DXpedition of The Year".

Think about that for awhile while you're trying to get your head around what this dozen DXpeditioners are going through - in just the last few days.

N0UN

+1

The parameters of activating Crozet are much different than Bouvet, almost the difference between night and day.

With all hope, the 3Y0J team will be ashore and making contacts in the weeks ahead. With success, 3Y0J will truly be the DX-pedition of the year.... no question!

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Re: 3Y0J Bouvet
« Reply #50 on: January 20, 2023, 09:32:15 AM »

Well, nobody is shooting an enemy while facing withering fire from a machine gun nest.

So, by that standard, no DXpedition is "heroic".

But if we go by the definition of "heroic" that means "excruciatingly large effort" then any of these rare places qualify.  One just has different kinds of "heroic" things to do.

There are several distinct classes of challenge and for the really rare ones, they take years and often large sums of money to overcome:

1.  Political problems.  This is actually #1.  It turns out that we can activate places like Heard that have minimal political problems.  Those are mostly a problem of logistics and money.  If the money wasn't so great, we'd see places like this done about once a year, even given how "heroic" these expeditions are in terms of logistics.  Examples of political problems are basically of two classes:  a) dictators who prohibit amateur radio, b) environmental restrictions.  The latter is getting to be more and more widespread, unfortunately for us.  There are commercial flights to P5; P5 would be about as hard as Aruba if the political process was more, um, conventional.  Yet, does anyone doubt that the few P5 activations were anything but "heroic"?  It seems to take years to wheedle permissions here.

2.  Money problems.  Some of these places (see Heard for instance) are mostly about very large sums of money, though they also invoke #3.

3.  Logistical problems. A lot of places are basically uninhabited or uninhabited enough to require serious logistics to activate.  Everything has to come with the team from radios to food to fuel to underwear.  However, some of these are "relatively" cheap.  As I recall, S9 has a regular boat that comes to the islands every two or four weeks.  Whether I remember that right, there are places like that.  I think Pitcairn is another such.  But the logistics are still formidable even for those.  There is often "staging" where a lot of gear, possibly from multiple locations, have to be shipped to some nearby staging area, and reliably stored until the team gets there to double-check that it is all there before loading the actual ship (or, rarely, puddle hopping charter plane) to make the final miles to the target.

Anything really rare -- especially those that seem to turn up once in 20 years or even longer, has at least one of these categories and it takes lengthy, often expensive work to overcome them.  So, yeah, any of these are "heroic" in the sense of "serious effort invested."

Crozet is really about #1 in the end, maybe a bit of #3.  But, as P5 shows, that doesn't mean the effort to activate it is any less "heroic".  We probably have yet to hear about all the restrictions (some probably last minute) that were imposed on this one.

I wouldn't be surprised that when we get the whole story (translated from the original French) that we'll find that having any QSOs was much closer to not happening at all than we now know.  I would be very surprised if we found out it was as easy as going to Aruba.  Because on the record we have, it isn't.  Not this trip, not any trip.
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Re: 3Y0J Bouvet
« Reply #51 on: January 20, 2023, 10:00:38 AM »

Well, nobody is shooting an enemy while facing withering fire from a machine gun nest.

So, by that standard, no DXpedition is "heroic".

But if we go by the definition of "heroic" that means "excruciatingly large effort" then any of these rare places qualify.  One just has different kinds of "heroic" things to do.
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Re: 3Y0J Bouvet
« Reply #52 on: January 20, 2023, 10:53:57 AM »

Well, nobody is shooting an enemy while facing withering fire from a machine gun nest.

So, by that standard, no DXpedition is "heroic".

But if we go by the definition of "heroic" that means "excruciatingly large effort" then any of these rare places qualify.  One just has different kinds of "heroic" things to do.

There are several distinct classes of challenge and for the really rare ones, they take years and often large sums of money to overcome:
The term "heroic" is not a proper one. The exceptions are, of course, K7LMU and ZL2AMJ lost at sea and shoot away Spratly team. These folks died for Ham Radio, they are heroes.
There's a fundamental difference between large multinational DXPeditions and one man efforts. Having this in mind one can talk in terms of "The Best One Man DXPedition of The Year" and there are only two candidates: F6CUK/FT8WW and prof. David Pommerenke 7O/DL7ZM whose 6m Yemen activation has delighted the 50 MHz community.
There were many big DXPeditions by Russians, Czech, Germans, Rebels etc to choose the "The Best DXPedition of The Year" title from. 
 
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Re: 3Y0J Bouvet
« Reply #53 on: January 20, 2023, 07:15:28 PM »

Apparently they are already there - ha!

The DQRM is gonna be fierce.

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Re: 3Y0J Bouvet
« Reply #54 on: January 20, 2023, 07:15:47 PM »

The Marama is currently cruising along at 12 MPH.

Click on the blue traingle, click "more"

https://share.garmin.com/3Y0J

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Re: 3Y0J Bouvet
« Reply #55 on: January 20, 2023, 08:09:40 PM »

The Marama is currently cruising along at 12 MPH.

Click on the blue traingle, click "more"

https://share.garmin.com/3Y0J

N0UN

Wow, now 16 MPH!

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Re: 3Y0J Bouvet
« Reply #56 on: January 22, 2023, 03:24:13 PM »

It's kind of strange that they have no MM activity going.
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Re: 3Y0J Bouvet
« Reply #57 on: January 22, 2023, 03:31:38 PM »

It's kind of strange that they have no MM activity going.

 They already addressed that issue. Because of safety reasons the boats captain nixed it because he doesn't want people on the deck due to the potential of bad weather. (installing antennas, etc)
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Re: 3Y0J Bouvet
« Reply #58 on: January 22, 2023, 04:01:35 PM »

Looks they're past South Georgia and the Sandwich Islands!  Appears they have about 1,000 miles down, another 1,500 miles to go.

Seems to be around +/- 200 miles a day (so far).

I cannot get my head around that yet (2,500 miles on a sailboat).

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Re: 3Y0J Bouvet
« Reply #59 on: January 22, 2023, 05:19:14 PM »

"3Y0J Co-Leader Rune LA7THA. 3Y0J Chief Pilot Morten LA3MHA was in the talk group as well. The Marama is passing just to the south of South Georgia Island. They will not be stopping at South Georgia.....asked if he had an estimated date if arrival at Bouvet. He said that he thought it is still a bit early to know but he suspected that it would be close to the end of the month..."

"3Y0J Team Co-Leader Ken LA7GIA earlier: Not much news here. We saw an iceberg and are changing the route to a more northern one. This will add one half day but is more safe. The route is assessed by a professional navigator working onshore. He advises the Captain what route to choose. He provides us with the waypoints we should go to. The guys are chilling, sleeping, eating and discussing. It’s about 1,500 nautical miles to 3Y.” Ken also thinks they will arrive at Bouvet around January 30th."

Above in dx-world.net
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