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Re: FT8WW
« Reply #120 on: February 28, 2023, 01:05:07 PM »

solid signal SP this evening on 20m ssb. #330 Phone

Think I heard him call Wayne as well

Here's a little present for your #330 Phone

You can hear my auto digital notch filter (DNF) cancelling the strong carrier, but you can hear him call you through it clear as day.

N5MOA Working FT8WW 20M SSB

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Re: FT8WW
« Reply #121 on: February 28, 2023, 07:12:24 PM »

solid signal SP this evening on 20m ssb. #330 Phone

Think I heard him call Wayne as well

Here's a little present for your #330 Phone

You can hear my auto digital notch filter (DNF) cancelling the strong carrier, but you can hear him call you through it clear as day.

N5MOA Working FT8WW 20M SSB

NØUN

Thanks,Wayne.  B-day present came a couple weeks early.   :)

I tried LP, heard him but much weaker.

Huge pile on 14.200, soon as he said "200 to 205" I slid up 3kc and got through

73, Tom
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Re: FT8WW
« Reply #122 on: March 01, 2023, 09:26:16 AM »

Wow, FT8WW just uploaded to LotW without needing a payment. Think I'll make a contribution anyway, but that's a nice touch whilst still on the expedition.
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« Reply #123 on: March 01, 2023, 09:58:54 AM »

Wow, FT8WW just uploaded to LotW without needing a payment. Think I'll make a contribution anyway, but that's a nice touch whilst still on the expedition.
From what I saw on the Clublog discord, the upload was a mistake. Sure enough, I checked and have all but my most recent 17m FT8 QSO confirmed on LOTW.

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Re: FT8WW
« Reply #124 on: March 01, 2023, 02:36:49 PM »

Wow, FT8WW just uploaded to LotW without needing a payment. Think I'll make a contribution anyway, but that's a nice touch whilst still on the expedition.
From what I saw on the Clublog discord, the upload was a mistake. Sure enough, I checked and have all but my most recent 17m FT8 QSO confirmed on LOTW.

73
Mason - KM4SII

Oh man... I kind of thought it might be a mistake. Well, I still hadn't OQRS'd yet (waiting til he's off the air in case I work him on more bands) but I still definitely want a card and want to donate towards the expedition so it won't change a thing for me.
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Re: FT8WW
« Reply #125 on: March 01, 2023, 03:02:11 PM »

Bit of kick in the stones for those of us who donated at OQRS to get a quick LoTW upload
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Re: FT8WW
« Reply #126 on: March 01, 2023, 04:41:37 PM »

Well that's a costly mistake!  Once uploaded to LoTW, there's no recourse to "claw" those confirmations back. There's only uploads & downloads, no deletions from LoTW whatsoever.

And for those of us that already paid $5 (twice) no harm, no foul.  You'd have to be a real low-life to "dispute" a PayPal for a LoTW confirmation (don't laugh, it happens all the time).   

I remember all the crying by the masses a few years ago when a LoTW confirmation upload was a buck or 2.  We just saw $15 with Bouvet and I haven't seen a single complaint.  I remember when Martti Laine was asking for a $20 LoTW "donation" when his group reactivated Kosovo - #1 DXCC Most Wanted (briefly).

One way or another you've got to pay to play for this DXing thing we do.  That is unless of course you just got a freebie LoTW from FT8WW Group's mistake.

Pay your way folks.

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Re: FT8WW
« Reply #127 on: March 01, 2023, 05:26:29 PM »

  I remember when Martti Laine was asking for a $20 LoTW "donation" when his group reactivated Kosovo - #1 DXCC Most Wanted (briefly).

 When Martti put Kosovo on the air I sent him an email saying I would be on the first plane to Kosovo from Minnesota. He agreed to my DXing proposal. I then kindly requested he obtain my own Kosovo callsign since he knew the licensing people. He agreed to this as well..................It's at this point there's a lot more to the story. 

 Maybe someday we will meet at Visalia or (what was formally known as) Dayton for the rest of the story:)  :)     
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« Reply #128 on: March 01, 2023, 05:47:43 PM »

Bit of kick in the stones for those of us who donated at OQRS to get a quick LoTW upload
Does anybody seriously begrudge a modest donation for putting the world's number three needed entity on the air? I sure don't. My personal rule of thumb is I'll always give a little something, even if it's just to cover postage and a small tip for a relatively common entity, as a tangible way to say thanks. If I get a new one on 160, 10m, or 6m, or a new mode then it goes up. If it's an ATNO, it's a LOT more.

These are our fellow hams paying thousands of dollars/euros/pounds/etc out of their own pocket to do us all a favour. The very least I can do is toss the financial equivalent of lunch in my local diner for their trouble! Plus I'd be glad to treat them to an actual lunch at my local diner!

I was reading on Dom's Facebook page how he named-and-shamed a DL ham who made a PayPal donation for an OQRS QSL/LoTW upload, got the upload, but then filed a chargeback and won the decision. Seriously, who does this?!
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Re: FT8WW
« Reply #129 on: March 01, 2023, 08:21:15 PM »


My personal rule of thumb is I'll always give a little something, even if it's just to cover postage and a small tip for a relatively common entity, as a tangible way to say thanks. If I get a new one on 160, 10m, or 6m, or a new mode then it goes up. If it's an ATNO, it's a LOT more.

These are our fellow hams paying thousands of dollars/euros/pounds/etc out of their own pocket to do us all a favour. The very least I can do is toss the financial equivalent of lunch in my local diner for their trouble! Plus I'd be glad to treat them to an actual lunch at my local diner!


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Re: FT8WW
« Reply #130 on: March 02, 2023, 07:49:47 AM »

I fully agree with him publishing calls of hams that scam the PayPal system for a free confirmation.  I think ARRL should look into not crediting the contacts for them.  How far outside the ham spirit can you get by frauding for a free confirmation?
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Re: FT8WW
« Reply #131 on: March 02, 2023, 08:17:57 AM »

Sadly, perhaps, the ARRL has never shown any enthusiasm for policing QSLing.

From their perspective, I can understand it.  The number of aggrieved people (fairly and unfairly) would consume every resource the ARRL ever had -- and to actually act would be to piss off stations that the program frankly needs in order for things like #1 HR to have what little credibility remains.

We are, as always, far too worried that the DXpeditioner and the resident DX are going to make "big money" off of QSLing.

We should be far more worried that they will stop subsidizing us.  Because that's the reality.  Any DX, resident or not, that can turn a modest profit is, in the end, a good thing.  They do not have the same experience of DXing you and I do.  When they get on the air, they get a pile up whether they want one today or not.  Yes, even for places like VP5 that are way down the need list.

I assure you, that only a long term resident DX has any chance of turning a profit off of QSLing.  The expeditioner has none.  The resident to some place rare usually has expenses we don't see (islands are pricey places to live and they often tax the hell out of any kind of tech gear).

When they want that pileup, it is a nice thing.  When they want to do something else, anything else, it really gets in the way.

W9KNI writes about this.  He talks about rare DX that are effectively hounded off the air.  About DX that deliberately operates with low power, CW in the SSB bands, and at times unfavorable to US propagation (how they hide from EU stations was not mentioned).

In short, like many things in life, being the DX is a mixed bag.

And, QSLing is, believe me, a marketplace.

Suppose you enjoy working pileups now and then, don't like LOTW (there are such), yet do not want to spend hours a day fielding QSLs?  Well, set a high price for your confirmation.  The higher the price, the fewer cards you get.  It's economics 101.

Not everyone (hardly anyone, actually) will send 10 dollars for a single band country.  They might hesitate (often rationally) for an ATNO at such a price.

Realistically, my QSLing is nearly done.  I'm a stone's throw away from DXCC 2500.  I will not live long enough for DXCC 3000, especially from Arizona.  I am a handful away from the Mixed Honor Roll #1 and even if I  get it, I could pay 50 per card for those (I won't) and it won't affect me much.

I'm not looking to retire from the bands, not yet.  But I am looking to the day where QSLing is optional to the point of disappearing from my life.  And, I rarely paid over four bucks for anything, other than DXpeditions I thought worthy.

If you don't like the price, wait.  For the vast, vast majority of entities, you really can.

When I was young and green and didn't understand the reality of QSLing, I tried JT on 10m via the "buro".  And waited, and waited.  The guy finally went SK on me.  It took me 20 years for the sunspots to give me another shot.  But , get it I did.  And that is the worst case out of 2450 or so confirmations.


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Re: FT8WW
« Reply #132 on: March 12, 2023, 09:39:44 PM »

Worked 20m SSB on just after 0415z,  March 13. Only a couple of callers, no QRM, clean signals! WOW!
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Re: FT8WW
« Reply #133 on: March 13, 2023, 05:12:18 AM »

just got him on 10m a a earlier today he was +06 would have loved an ssb but im happy .

btw  dom got t33kc to operate from t30 a nice a marathon point I dont think there will be a qsl
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Re: FT8WW
« Reply #134 on: March 13, 2023, 06:35:13 AM »

Big signal on 10m SSB as of 1330z (Monday 3/13), but not working stateside yet. Would love to get a 10m QSO if at all possible. Fingers crossed, etc.
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