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KE8SOK

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FT-891 Transmit Issue
« on: January 21, 2023, 06:20:01 AM »

I have something strange going on with my 891 when I hit the transmit button. Antenna is My antennas EFHW-8010-2K Plus, mAT-30 tuner. When I hit the transmit button the red light will come on for a second, then the radio and tuner shut off for a second then re-start. This is a brand new set up for me, so I am pretty green with the radio. Using SSB. I can hear people out a few states away no problem. Maybe too much power or some kind of short? Any help and coaching is much appreciated.
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K7LZR

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Re: FT-891 Transmit Issue
« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2023, 07:37:13 AM »

First place to look is power supply and associated connections. Is the power supply adequate and able to supply enough current for full-power transmit? If so, then ensure that all connections between radio & power supply are tight, clean, and of sufficient size for the current demand.

I once had an Alinco DX-70 act the same as your FT-891. Problem was a bad butt connector in the positive power lead....
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W1MOW

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Re: FT-891 Transmit Issue
« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2023, 08:43:31 AM »

It also sounds like a power supply problem to me. Make sure your power supply is capable of providing at least 25 amps continuously at 13.8 vdc. Next check every connection between the power supply and the radio. Make sure all wire used is 12 awg, and all inline fuses are at least 25amp rated. One last thing...using a voltmeter check the voltage at the power suppy and at the connector that plugs into the radio.

Good Luck.

Gary W1MOW
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K5LXP

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Re: FT-891 Transmit Issue
« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2023, 09:17:33 AM »

Something you could try is reducing the power and seeing at what point the problem starts/stops.  It could be common mode/RFI but the power threshold test will help isolate it based on bands tested/observed.

Mark K5LXP
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WA3SKN

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Re: FT-891 Transmit Issue
« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2023, 09:30:55 AM »

First, what does it do when transmitting into a known good dummy load?
Since the ft891 does not have an antenna tuner, does the antenna provide the expected 50 ohm impedance to the rig?

-Mike.
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AI5BC

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Re: FT-891 Transmit Issue
« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2023, 09:35:00 AM »

I am pretty green with the radio.

Check your DC power wiring, bet it is green too. Most likely your terminations suffer from hamitus, poor workmanship, low-quality materials and improper tooling. 
« Last Edit: January 21, 2023, 09:38:45 AM by AI5BC »
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Re: FT-891 Transmit Issue
« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2023, 11:34:49 AM »

What are you using for a power supply?

- Glenn W9IQ
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KE8SOK

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Re: FT-891 Transmit Issue
« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2023, 04:47:06 PM »

Appreciate the help guys. When we were on the air last night KE8ROF mentioned the same thing about the power supply. Might be the reason he couldn't hear me. I will also try reducing the power while I make sure there are no power supply issues. Its also a cheeep power supply off Amazon that I bought for a 2 meter radio, and I'll be replacing that with a Yaesu power supply ASAP.
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K0UA

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Re: FT-891 Transmit Issue
« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2023, 04:57:04 PM »

Appreciate the help guys. When we were on the air last night KE8ROF mentioned the same thing about the power supply. Might be the reason he couldn't hear me. I will also try reducing the power while I make sure there are no power supply issues. Its also a cheeep power supply off Amazon that I bought for a 2 meter radio, and I'll be replacing that with a Yaesu power supply ASAP.

To help others in the future when they stumble on this thread during a search Please, specify the voltage and especially the current rating of this supply. Please do it to help others understand. Thanks.

James, K0UA
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Re: FT-891 Transmit Issue
« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2023, 07:17:34 PM »

This is a common problem.  The radio doesn’t
draw a lot of current on receive, but it does
when you transmit.  If the power supply can’t
provide the required current, or there are high
resistance connections in the cabling (such as
corroded contacts on fuses) then the voltage
drops below that required to run the radio, and
it may shut off or do any number of quirky
things.  (In one case, the radio in my wife’s car
wouldn’t stop transmitting if she shut off the
engine while transmitting, due to the lower
voltage.  That was fun...)

So the first step is to make sure that the power
supply can deliver the required current (which
will be somewhat lower at low power), then
check the voltage at the radio for any voltage
drop in the wiring.

Sometimes there are other issues with the
power supply, such as RF interfering with the
regulator (should be reduced using a dummy
load), or supplies that don’t respond quickly
enough to changes in current draw (which
may be OK for an FM transmitter, but cause
real problems with SSB or CW).

But an inadequate supply, or high resistance
in he connections, is the first thing to check.
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