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VE3TMT

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Is this what amateur radio has become?
« on: February 06, 2023, 02:44:41 PM »

Sitting at work today, watching the spots come up for the 3Y0J operation. Get home from work, tune up 10.115 and all I hear are the freaking idiots throwing carriers directly on their calling frequency. I can go down to 25 Hz filter bandwidth and there they are right there on 10.115.00000000000000. Oh and let's not forget the KE2 calling CQ right on 10.115

Give me an f'in break. This is disgusting. I know some have more time than brains, but after 32 years,  it really makes me rethink my hobby choices.


Disgusting ignorant pricks.
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W5IR

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Re: Is this what amateur radio has become?
« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2023, 02:55:15 PM »

You forgot to mention the pirates spotting 3Y0J before they were active! Nothing but LIDS in the hobby now since they have dumbed down the exams.
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Re: Is this what amateur radio has become?
« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2023, 03:31:46 PM »

Not to mention the "parallel" operation on 10.115
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Re: Is this what amateur radio has become?
« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2023, 03:35:36 PM »

Not to mention the "parallel" operation on 10.115

Yep, I hear that guy as well. Hasn't identified once.. Not terribly strong but a bit too strong (it would be nice if they were that loud..). Welp, gonna take a break from this mess.. got other things to do.
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N1CX

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Re: Is this what amateur radio has become?
« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2023, 03:36:23 PM »

I'm disgusted. As a 45+ year ham I'm pretty much ashamed to be associated with this stuff at this point. I've seen toddlers act better.
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Re: Is this what amateur radio has become?
« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2023, 03:41:16 PM »

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Nothing but LIDS in the hobby now since they have dumbed down the exams.

You remember the past as better than it was.

This crap has been going on since at least 1989 when I started DXing and no doubt long before.

There are only two ways I know to stop the game:

1.  The DXpedition runs at a high rate despite the a**holes.
2.  The DXpedition runs FT8 which seems to deprive the a**holes of their auditory thrills.

Apparently, Bouvet isn't able to run FT8 yet or decided not to.  Shame.  It has worked well in recent years to cut down the crazy factor.
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KB8GAE

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Re: Is this what amateur radio has become?
« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2023, 03:53:15 PM »

Yep, nothing new about it. You can read the March 1990 "It Seems to Us" column in QST titled Rotten Operating by K1ZZ on the 3Y5X dxpedition.

As Dave said, "Time to dust off the Wouff Hong.

73 Rich KB8GAE
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Re: Is this what amateur radio has become?
« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2023, 04:09:27 PM »

Yep, nothing new about it. You can read the March 1990 "It Seems to Us" column in QST titled Rotten Operating by K1ZZ on the 3Y5X dxpedition.

As Dave said, "Time to dust off the Wouff Hong.

73 Rich KB8GAE

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W0CKI

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Re: Is this what amateur radio has become?
« Reply #8 on: February 06, 2023, 04:45:14 PM »

I'm 82 years old, been a ham since 1954, still an avid CW op and DX chaser. This new dxpedition is a world class lid fest. Wait until their on SSB. Every knob turned all to the right. Boneheads galore. But it's not that new. When they dumbed down the tests, it all went straight to the toilet and gets worse each year. Boxtop licensing has destroyed the hobby. Too many clowns with too much money.
Gary W0CKI
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K7LZR

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Re: Is this what amateur radio has become?
« Reply #9 on: February 06, 2023, 04:48:16 PM »

Yes. This is what Amateur Radio has become.
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W2IRT

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Re: Is this what amateur radio has become?
« Reply #10 on: February 06, 2023, 05:55:26 PM »

A decent pileup can be fun, especially if folks in your region are getting through—makes you feel like you have a shot sooner or later. I was in one earlier today for Iran on 10m CW. Tough, and with a couple of lids for a while, but it settled down and most who wanted a QSO got through after 15-20 minutes. Those are fun (for varying definitions of the word, perhaps).

But what's happening now with Bouvet is just disgusting, and a big reminder of why FT8 is so popular in DXing. Honestly, anyone who actually enjoys sitting through the never-ending deliberate QRM, and suffering the antics of impotent, lonely, and/or mentally ill ops should probably recalibrate their fun-o-meter.

I hope they're able to maintain a couple of stations for at least a week, and not go crazy with operating every band and mode, at least until the initial surge wears down. Get more uniques in the log and perhaps the crazy factor will dampen down a wee bit.
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Re: Is this what amateur radio has become?
« Reply #11 on: February 06, 2023, 06:31:12 PM »

Looking back at 50+ years of DX’ing, I can’t recall a time we didn’t see and hear these antics. Whether or not it is getting worse or the reasons why it might be are entirely subjective.

Rather than lament the behavior which we can do nothing about, learn to deal with it as it’s not going to disappear from ham radio and dig a little deeper to work the DX while everyone else isn’t trying because it’s too hard. That’s why we buy the best radios with the best filters.
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KD8MJR

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Re: Is this what amateur radio has become?
« Reply #12 on: February 06, 2023, 06:35:19 PM »

I really forgot how many idiots where out there until now!
Anyway I will wait it out and see how this plays out over the next couple of days. 
One consistent pattern is that if the Dx is weak the idiots will come out of every corner to make life miserable for those struggling to hear the Dx.
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Re: Is this what amateur radio has become?
« Reply #13 on: February 06, 2023, 07:20:01 PM »

Looking back at 50+ years of DX’ing, I can’t recall a time we didn’t see and hear these antics. Whether or not it is getting worse or the reasons why it might be are entirely subjective.

Rather than lament the behavior which we can do nothing about, learn to deal with it as it’s not going to disappear from ham radio and dig a little deeper to work the DX while everyone else isn’t trying because it’s too hard. That’s why we buy the best radios with the best filters.

Same thoughts here...
This is nothing new, it has been going on forever. No LID can make me rethink continuing with the greatest hobby ever. No LID can distract/discourage me from trying to work the rare DX. Just be patient and wait for the right opportunity for a QSO.

73 Dragan K0AP
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Re: Is this what amateur radio has become?
« Reply #14 on: February 06, 2023, 08:49:50 PM »

I'm a long, long time ham. CW almost strictly. And yet- after 49 years, despite the fact that nobody runs CW there- I find the 'freeband' area of 27.425 to 27.555 (LSB) to be more entertaining, fun, generally more polite, and populated by true radio hobbyists. You know- true hams in spirit. Pick any ten of them and pick any ten hams at random, and I'll guarantee you the CBers and freebanders are far more knowledgeable in RF and HF operating. They're more dedicated as a group as well. The value of an amateur radio ticket is approaching zero. Time to end the government's regulation of the people's HF spectrum.
Chuck, N8NK, first WN8SSP in 1974
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