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W2IRT

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Re: Is this what amateur radio has become?
« Reply #15 on: February 06, 2023, 10:44:07 PM »

I really forgot how many idiots where out there until now!
Anyway I will wait it out and see how this plays out over the next couple of days.
It got nice and peaceful on 30 around 0500-0630z, by which time the MUF was likely well below 10 MHz in Europe, and it was past the Stateside old timers' bedtimes. After that it was just a good ol' rip-snortin' CW pileup, the kind that are frustrating but still fun to be in and make DXing worthwhile when you get through. I maintain the hardest part of any pileup is hearing weak DX signals over the malicious QRM. Finding the QSX is easy by comparison; once I found it, I was in the log about 4 or 5 calls later.
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VK3HJ

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Re: Is this what amateur radio has become?
« Reply #16 on: February 06, 2023, 11:10:15 PM »

This happens every time a high profile DXpedition starts up. I find that the intensity of the LIDness is proportional to how high on the Most Wanted List it is. Even some of the usually most wonderfully disciplined and orderly Japanese hams lose their minds when a new Top Ten entity comes up on air.
Have you forgotten the sh1tstorm around the FT8WW activation already? Thankfully the mess settled down by the second week, and I expect (hope) it does the same with 3Y0J.
I'm just hoping 3Y0J is on long enough for me to get a QSO. The first day is over. Here's hoping for the team to be able to get on with setting up and operating.
Good Luck.
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K1FBI

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Re: Is this what amateur radio has become?
« Reply #17 on: February 07, 2023, 12:59:59 AM »


In late 1990, the FCC released their Report and Order on Docket 90-55. Beginning on February 14, 1991, demonstration of proficiency in Morse code telegraphy was removed from the Technician license requirements. All Morse Code requirements were dropped in February 2007.

That was a long time ago. So maybe it's not that people who didn't pass a Morse Code requirement are terrible Amateurs. Maybe it's the same as it's always been, some people are nice and other people are not that nice.

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KD6VXI

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Re: Is this what amateur radio has become?
« Reply #18 on: February 07, 2023, 01:49:56 AM »

I've been a ham for decades.

This isn't new.

2 meters was a friggin zoo in the 70s and 80s in a lot of areas.  Los Angeles was a free for all.  It still is.

We always tend to romanticize our memories s.

But we had assholes in our midst 40 years ago, too.

--Shane
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SWMAN

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Re: Is this what amateur radio has become?
« Reply #19 on: February 07, 2023, 02:32:41 AM »

 Just too many jerks everywhere you go nowadays. How about when driving down the street, going to the store or walking in the mall. How about the way our government is nowadays. Jerks and idiots everywhere. I don’t think that it is just ham radio, the idiot jerks are everywhere nowadays.
 I’ve been around a long time and I can definitely see a big difference how things are now. That’s just my observations.
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KF4ZGZ

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Re: Is this what amateur radio has become?
« Reply #20 on: February 07, 2023, 03:38:18 AM »


I was listening for a (very) short while yesterday ...... the Italians were terrible.
2 guys on freq hammering away their call sign and 200 hammering out "up up" anywhere from 5 words per minute to 50!
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Re: Is this what amateur radio has become?
« Reply #21 on: February 07, 2023, 03:52:43 AM »

I think that there is a lesson here to provide the third bot station on FT8 just to use it as a moth light.  Without the FT8 outlet, the small subset of the no-code crowd that also has twisted brains have nothing to do but jam (or wait in silence, but they are just not capable).

Its either that or have a bunch of stations going to thin out the crowd and give SSB and FT8 as outlets for everyone.

Between, "I can't hear them they are too weak", or "I shouldn't have to be a big gun to work them", or "I don;t know the code", there is just too much for the crazies to aspire to.

And yes, its a HUGELY EU issue from my observation.  I also see that EU is a larger percentage of FT8 users than NA....just sayin....

Could hear them at S0 - S1 on my 30M inv vee much of the night but didn;t bother calling with such small signal and simple antenna on 30M.  I will get them on 15 or 20M with the "big guns". 

Ed  N1UR
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Re: Is this what amateur radio has become?
« Reply #22 on: February 07, 2023, 05:19:14 AM »

Sitting at work today, watching the spots come up for the 3Y0J operation. Get home from work, tune up 10.115 and all I hear are the freaking idiots throwing carriers directly on their calling frequency. I can go down to 25 Hz filter bandwidth and there they are right there on 10.115.00000000000000. Oh and let's not forget the KE2 calling CQ right on 10.115

Give me an f'in break. This is disgusting. I know some have more time than brains, but after 32 years,  it really makes me rethink my hobby choices.


Disgusting ignorant pricks.

32 years, eh?....hmmmm lets see....that would put you being a licensend dxer at around 1991 or.....which tells me that you missed the bouvet operation of 1989 into 1990......got news for ya.....the same nonsense went down then as well.....which made me just throw up my hands scream EFFF THIS!!!!! IM DONE!!!!!.....and completely avoided the entire operation.....it's just not worth it!...... is this what amateur radio has become?....Nope..... this is nothing new......:( :o ::)

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Re: Is this what amateur radio has become?
« Reply #23 on: February 07, 2023, 05:46:47 AM »

"Boxtop licensing"

That's just part of it. ZERO enforcement
by the FCC, on anything, for more than 20 years now.
And "digital" is not much better. It's been taken over
with Winlink and FT8.

I find I spend less and less time on the air as it gets worse.
 
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K4GTE

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Re: Is this what amateur radio has become?
« Reply #24 on: February 07, 2023, 06:13:06 AM »

It's a reflection of current society. It's nothing new, it has nothing to do with current exams, and it's not unique to amateur radio. It's a basic result of generations not being taught right from wrong, manners, and respect for others.
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Re: Is this what amateur radio has become?
« Reply #25 on: February 07, 2023, 06:56:59 AM »

yes, which in turn is due in large part to "Social Media", where everyone's voice is as loud as the rest.  So the rude idiots can have the same influence as the dignified and sane.

73, Ed
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K7JQ

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Re: Is this what amateur radio has become?
« Reply #26 on: February 07, 2023, 07:12:32 AM »

Couldn’t hear them on any band yesterday here in southern AZ. Just the DQRMers, tuner-uppers, freq police, testers, don’t-know-how-to work-split’ers…the whole gamut of idiots.

Being 64 years in ham radio, this has always been going on..nothing new. First I gotta hear them to work them, but getting too old to put up with this crap.

Good luck to those that have the patience and tolerance to wait it out. Above all, hoping they stay safe on that hell hole.
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K1VSK

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Re: Is this what amateur radio has become?
« Reply #27 on: February 07, 2023, 07:22:58 AM »


It got nice and peaceful on 30 around 0500-0630z, by which time the MUF was likely well below 10 MHz in Europe, and it was past the Stateside old timers' bedtimes. After that it was just a good ol' rip-snortin' CW pileup, the kind that are frustrating but still fun to be in and make DXing worthwhile when you get through. I maintain the hardest part of any pileup is hearing weak DX signals over the malicious QRM. Finding the QSX is easy by comparison; once I found it, I was in the log about 4 or 5 calls later.

Just a reminder to everyone - they are asking people who have worked Bouvet previously to standby and allow those needing it for an ATNO to get through.
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K1FBI

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Re: Is this what amateur radio has become?
« Reply #28 on: February 07, 2023, 07:26:51 AM »


It got nice and peaceful on 30 around 0500-0630z, by which time the MUF was likely well below 10 MHz in Europe, and it was past the Stateside old timers' bedtimes. After that it was just a good ol' rip-snortin' CW pileup, the kind that are frustrating but still fun to be in and make DXing worthwhile when you get through. I maintain the hardest part of any pileup is hearing weak DX signals over the malicious QRM. Finding the QSX is easy by comparison; once I found it, I was in the log about 4 or 5 calls later.

Just a reminder to everyone - they are asking people who have worked Bouvet previously to standby and allow those needing it for an ATNO to get through.
That's another one; the guy who says worked you yesterday, blah, blah, blah.
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K1VSK

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Re: Is this what amateur radio has become?
« Reply #29 on: February 07, 2023, 08:31:49 AM »


It got nice and peaceful on 30 around 0500-0630z, by which time the MUF was likely well below 10 MHz in Europe, and it was past the Stateside old timers' bedtimes. After that it was just a good ol' rip-snortin' CW pileup, the kind that are frustrating but still fun to be in and make DXing worthwhile when you get through. I maintain the hardest part of any pileup is hearing weak DX signals over the malicious QRM. Finding the QSX is easy by comparison; once I found it, I was in the log about 4 or 5 calls later.

Just a reminder to everyone - they are asking people who have worked Bouvet previously to standby and allow those needing it for an ATNO to get through.
That's another one; the guy who says worked you yesterday, blah, blah, blah.

 self-esteem issues vs. common courtesy to those who need it. Sad.
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