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WO7R

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Re: 5B-WAZ achieved!
« Reply #60 on: February 26, 2023, 09:43:57 PM »

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And remember, today you can get the Worked ALL States by working 49 states.

I'm not sure what you are talking about here.

Rule 2 from WAS:

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The WAS (Worked All States) Award is available to all amateurs worldwide who submit proof with written confirmation of contacts with each of the 50 states of the United States of America. Amateurs in the U.S. and possessions must be members of ARRL to apply for a WAS.  Applicants from outside the U.S. are exempt from this requirement.


. . . and it later clarifies:

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The District of Columbia may be counted for Maryland.

Now, if you wanna get really hyper-fussy, you could claim it means "49 states" as DC is not a state.  But even with that lawyerly turn, it is still "50" somethings, which is not what is being discussed here.  The real equivalent to what CQ is doing would be to (say) permit a WAS award with any 35 distinct states.

In fact, all that really is happening here is that the ARRL decided to classify DC as Maryland for award purposes.

This is not as outlandish as it may sound.  When the DC Statehood amendment was put out, some opponents of the idea suggested that instead we count DC residents as residents of Maryland for the purposes of Federal Elections.

So, the idea of treating DC as something other than a special district is already kind of "out there" even if the US, as a society, has never done it.

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AF5CC

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Re: 5B-WAZ achieved!
« Reply #61 on: February 26, 2023, 10:15:25 PM »

Well my point is that you don't have to work Maryland to get WAS.  District of Columbia is not part of Maryland, and it is not a state.  I am guessing that you cannot count 4U1UN for New York or Midway Island for Hawaii.  If DC were to become a state, then you would have to work DC and Maryland, not one or the other, like it is now. 

As it is now is kind of like working Northern Ireland and being able to count it for EI as it used to be part of Ireland.

73 John AF5CC
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WO7R

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Re: 5B-WAZ achieved!
« Reply #62 on: February 27, 2023, 06:25:19 AM »

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Well my point is that you don't have to work Maryland to get WAS.  District of Columbia is not part of Maryland, and it is not a state.

OK, but there's a difference between redefining political boundaries -- which is what the DC thing in WAS is -- versus working fewer total things to get a basic award on the way to collecting a complete set for the full award.

Your own example of Northern Ireland makes the point I am making (and, in the end, you are making).

Hams have never been about the exact political boundaries.  Nobody but us refers to Northern Ireland or Hawaii as a "country" -- which we have done since DeSoto for some of these things.  (The "entity" thing is a late-breaking fudge and a lot of us eschew it).

If we were interested only in exact political boundaries, Bouvet would count as Norway and DXCC would be defined as UN Member states only.

All of it is arbitrary in the end.

I suggest people will be happier and less hung up over wording if we treat WAZ as what it is -- a Brand and not an absolute phrase.

If you want to treat WAS the same way -- as a brand -- I won't object.  But at least there are still "50" somethings you work there or you get nothing.  So, not quite the same.
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AF5CC

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Re: 5B-WAZ achieved!
« Reply #63 on: February 27, 2023, 07:25:24 AM »

My statement about Worked All States has been mostly tongue in cheek anyways.  I bring it up only when people get all hung up about being able to get WAZ with less than 40 or 200 zones.

73 John AF5CC
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N4UFO

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Re: 5B-WAZ achieved!
« Reply #64 on: February 27, 2023, 08:03:31 AM »

My statement about Worked All States has been mostly tongue in cheek anyways.

Don't worry, I caught it, John. But that's the problem with the written word & why emojis were invented. Context.  ;)

In other words...

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BA4TB

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Re: 5B-WAZ achieved!
« Reply #65 on: March 06, 2023, 03:47:02 AM »

Congratulations Pete!
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