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K1FBI

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Re: Get rid of Park to Park
« Reply #15 on: February 28, 2023, 04:19:07 AM »

Make the contact and go on... your not talking 30 seconds here.  It will take a lot longer to change it and nobody will follow it 100% anyway!
"Human nature does't change!"

-Mike.
I've actually had quite a few 1-2 minute conversations with POTA stations. That is what I find so nice about POTA.
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AE0Q

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Re: Get rid of Park to Park
« Reply #16 on: February 28, 2023, 03:14:08 PM »

When I'm activating, 20 - 30 people calling me, and one guy comes in at the end "park to park."

I think the original poster needs to tell us if he means SAYING "park to park" on SSB, or if for some strange reason he meant the counting of "park to park" contacts in the POTA system...  Because folks here have commented on both meanings, and they sure aren't the same !!!
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K2WPM

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Re: Get rid of Park to Park
« Reply #17 on: March 02, 2023, 07:33:44 PM »

I did not mean to suggest the concept of Park to Park is bad.  Just the assumption that calling park-to-park to get into a pile up.  It rather cheapens the concept while also resulting in lengthy PTP episodes during pile ups.  I enjoy the challenge of contacting other activators when I activate, so I don't call "PTP" anymore.  I try to bust through the pile up, like everybody else.  I will continue to give PTP callers priority, absent a groundswell to not do so.

Thanks for lots of great comments, by the way.
Hams are the best.

David, K2WPM
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LNXAUTHOR

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Re: Get rid of Park to Park
« Reply #18 on: March 22, 2023, 03:39:14 AM »

Whatever you do, NEVER call him on CW dead zero beat !!!

Glenn AE0Q

this has been one of the big learning points for me after getting back into CW after a 20-year hiatus... was not always sure what side of the freq to put out my call... what i figured out was to listen to the exchanges, then zero beat the successful callers who get a response from the activator - which has seemed to work for me

amazing how many sad hams apparently can't stand the success of /p park operations nowadays - lots of qrm from LIDs on SSB - not so much on CW
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K1FBI

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Re: Get rid of Park to Park
« Reply #19 on: March 22, 2023, 04:41:37 AM »

Whatever you do, NEVER call him on CW dead zero beat !!!

Glenn AE0Q

this has been one of the big learning points for me after getting back into CW after a 20-year hiatus... was not always sure what side of the freq to put out my call... what i figured out was to listen to the exchanges, then zero beat the successful callers who get a response from the activator - which has seemed to work for me

amazing how many sad hams apparently can't stand the success of /p park operations nowadays - lots of qrm from LIDs on SSB - not so much on CW
Accept for the babies holding down their key to QRM the POTA stations...CW OPs aren't immune from being Lids.
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K2WPM

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Re: Get rid of Park to Park
« Reply #20 on: March 26, 2023, 07:14:30 PM »

was not always sure what side of the freq to put out my call...
IC-7300 is programmed for LSB CW.
I always wondered if I am supposed to change that for 20 meters and above, to USB.
Did you ever get an answer or conclusion on that?
Or maybe I misinterpreted your post.
Maybe anyone else can chime in.  Thanks,
David, K2WPM
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AE0Q

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Re: Get rid of Park to Park
« Reply #21 on: March 27, 2023, 10:05:55 AM »

was not always sure what side of the freq to put out my call...
IC-7300 is programmed for LSB CW.
I always wondered if I am supposed to change that for 20 meters and above, to USB.
Did you ever get an answer or conclusion on that?
Or maybe I misinterpreted your post.  Maybe anyone else can chime in.

In modern radios it doesn't matter.  Assuming the pitch of your sidetone is the same as the CW offset in the transceiver (true in most DSP-based radios), as long as you tune in a station and match your sidetone to the pitch of his signal in your receiver, you will be zerobeat with him, transmitting on the same frequency as the other station you are listening to.

So all you have to do to be offset up or down by a few Hz is NOT match his pitch exactly.  It doesn't matter if your radio uses LSB or USB for CW.  Some radios have a CW-R (reverse) function so you can intentionally be listening on the other side of the received signal, which can help eliminate interfering signals in your receiver passband.

Glenn AE0Q
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Re: Get rid of Park to Park
« Reply #22 on: March 28, 2023, 07:36:20 AM »

The very fact that POTA operations actually generate pileups is one of the great things about the POTA program. For the guys that hate POTA and are "made sad" about hearing it; get a life. Or start enjoying the one you already have.

POTA is not only a lot of fun, but has breathed more life into Amateur Radio than any activity I can think of recently. Not to mention getting a lot of old hams off of their duff and out into the field. Win, Win, if you were to ask me. But even guys that cannot get out into the field can still participate as hunters.
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