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K5MO

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Re: VK6CQ calls for 3Y0J DXCC to be invalidated due to no landing permit !
« Reply #60 on: March 02, 2023, 03:16:11 PM »

"There's not many amateur DXers who are also Antarctic professionals out there who are more experienced than me...."

Maybe you should have gone to Bouvet with a radio then.

John K5MO
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VK6CQ

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Re: VK6CQ calls for 3Y0J DXCC to be invalidated due to no landing permit !
« Reply #61 on: March 03, 2023, 09:02:55 AM »

"There's not many amateur DXers who are also Antarctic professionals out there who are more experienced than me...."

Maybe you should have gone to Bouvet with a radio then.

John K5MO

John: Why on Earth would I want to pay $25,000 to go to Bouvet with a radio when I get paid much more than that to go to various places in the Antarctic & sub-Antarctic on official government funded expeditions?
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K1VSK

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Re: VK6CQ calls for 3Y0J DXCC to be invalidated due to no landing permit !
« Reply #62 on: March 03, 2023, 09:17:35 AM »

"There's not many amateur DXers who are also Antarctic professionals out there who are more experienced than me...."

Maybe you should have gone to Bouvet with a radio then.

John K5MO

John: Why on Earth would I want to pay $25,000 to go to Bouvet with a radio when I get paid much more than that to go to various places in the Antarctic & sub-Antarctic on official government funded expeditions?
Before anyone is misled into being impressed by that, since you brought this up:

1.Who pays you “much more than that” to go to an island,
2. What specifically  do they pay you to do once they bring you there, and
3. How many times have you been to Bouvet?

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N1UR

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Re: VK6CQ calls for 3Y0J DXCC to be invalidated due to no landing permit !
« Reply #63 on: March 03, 2023, 10:50:55 AM »

The K1VSK victim of the day.

Some people just never had friends in school, did they?

Ed  N1UR
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K1VSK

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Re: VK6CQ calls for 3Y0J DXCC to be invalidated due to no landing permit !
« Reply #64 on: March 03, 2023, 11:46:08 AM »

The K1VSK victim of the day.

Some people just never had friends in school, did they?

Ed  N1UR

What is wrong with you?


Again, you add nothing to the debate. I guess I hit your sensitive nerve by asking you to describe your qualification which you clearly over-stated only to read this nonsense.Grow up!

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KD8MJR

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Re: VK6CQ calls for 3Y0J DXCC to be invalidated due to no landing permit !
« Reply #65 on: March 03, 2023, 01:25:05 PM »

"There's not many amateur DXers who are also Antarctic professionals out there who are more experienced than me...."

Maybe you should have gone to Bouvet with a radio then.

John K5MO

John: Why on Earth would I want to pay $25,000 to go to Bouvet with a radio when I get paid much more than that to go to various places in the Antarctic & sub-Antarctic on official government funded expeditions?
Before anyone is misled into being impressed by that, since you brought this up:

1.Who pays you “much more than that” to go to an island,
2. What specifically  do they pay you to do once they bring you there, and
3. How many times have you been to Bouvet?

Give it a break.  The normal eHam attack implying this is an arm chair quarter back or Keyboard warrior is not going to work with this guy.  It is well known that he has done these kinds of Trips on several occasions.  He probably has more Antarctic experience than any other Ham operator in the world.

I am not engaging him from that angle.  The simple fact is that the ARRL has no requirements about how a Dxpedition handles the safety aspect of a DXpedition.   I am in total disagreement with him about voiding the contacts and I question why he would have made this so public when a simple forum post or better yet a direct letter to Ken pointing out what in his eyes were the issues would have been enough.
 
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VK6CQ

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Re: VK6CQ calls for 3Y0J DXCC to be invalidated due to no landing permit !
« Reply #66 on: March 03, 2023, 09:37:30 PM »

"There's not many amateur DXers who are also Antarctic professionals out there who are more experienced than me...."

Maybe you should have gone to Bouvet with a radio then.

John K5MO

John: Why on Earth would I want to pay $25,000 to go to Bouvet with a radio when I get paid much more than that to go to various places in the Antarctic & sub-Antarctic on official government funded expeditions?
Before anyone is misled into being impressed by that, since you brought this up:

1.Who pays you “much more than that” to go to an island,
2. What specifically  do they pay you to do once they bring you there, and
3. How many times have you been to Bouvet?

There, There, Don,  I think you need go take one of your Valiums and have a nice lie down! ::) ::)
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VK5SA

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Re: VK6CQ calls for 3Y0J DXCC to be invalidated due to no landing permit !
« Reply #67 on: March 03, 2023, 11:10:27 PM »

"There's not many amateur DXers who are also Antarctic professionals out there who are more experienced than me...."

Maybe you should have gone to Bouvet with a radio then.

John K5MO

John: Why on Earth would I want to pay $25,000 to go to Bouvet with a radio when I get paid much more than that to go to various places in the Antarctic & sub-Antarctic on official government funded expeditions?
Before anyone is misled into being impressed by that, since you brought this up:

1.Who pays you “much more than that” to go to an island,
2. What specifically  do they pay you to do once they bring you there, and
3. How many times have you been to Bouvet?

There, There, Don,  I think you need go take one of your Valiums and have a nice lie down! ::) ::)

I don't think a personal attack adds anything to the discussion, unless you want the discussion to escalate to a Flame War.

Chris    VK5SA
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VK6CQ

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Re: VK6CQ calls for 3Y0J DXCC to be invalidated due to no landing permit !
« Reply #68 on: March 04, 2023, 01:41:28 AM »

The K1VSK victim of the day.

Some people just never had friends in school, did they?

Ed  N1UR

What is wrong with you?


Again, you add nothing to the debate. I guess I hit your sensitive nerve by asking you to describe your qualification which you clearly over-stated only to read this nonsense.Grow up!

Hey Don, seems you don't even know if you're talking to the right guy or not. I've not over-stated my Antarctic qualifications or experience - my CV is a matter of public record if you'd bother taking the time to find it.
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K1VSK

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Re: VK6CQ calls for 3Y0J DXCC to be invalidated due to no landing permit !
« Reply #69 on: March 04, 2023, 07:32:59 AM »

"There's not many amateur DXers who are also Antarctic professionals out there who are more experienced than me...."

Maybe you should have gone to Bouvet with a radio then.

John K5MO

John: Why on Earth would I want to pay $25,000 to go to Bouvet with a radio when I get paid much more than that to go to various places in the Antarctic & sub-Antarctic on official government funded expeditions?
Before anyone is misled into being impressed by that, since you brought this up:

1.Who pays you “much more than that” to go to an island,
2. What specifically  do they pay you to do once they bring you there, and
3. How many times have you been to Bouvet?

There, There, Don,  I think you need go take one of your Valiums and have a nice lie down! ::) ::)

Guess that’s all you can come up with to avoid answering. Good show!
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VK6CQ

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Re: VK6CQ calls for 3Y0J DXCC to be invalidated due to no landing permit !
« Reply #70 on: March 04, 2023, 06:19:02 PM »

"There's not many amateur DXers who are also Antarctic professionals out there who are more experienced than me...."

Maybe you should have gone to Bouvet with a radio then.

John K5MO

John: Why on Earth would I want to pay $25,000 to go to Bouvet with a radio when I get paid much more than that to go to various places in the Antarctic & sub-Antarctic on official government funded expeditions?
Before anyone is misled into being impressed by that, since you brought this up:

1.Who pays you “much more than that” to go to an island,
2. What specifically  do they pay you to do once they bring you there, and
3. How many times have you been to Bouvet?

There, There, Don,  I think you need go take one of your Valiums and have a nice lie down! ::) ::)

Guess that’s all you can come up with to avoid answering. Good show!

1) British Antarctic Survey, Australian National Antarctic Research Expeditions, Antarctic Logistics & Expeditions PLC etc.

2) Install, maintain and operate radios and other telecommunications infrastructure (just in case you're a nit-picker, that involves lots of zipping around in Zodiacs etc.)

3) Sailed past Bouvet Island several times on various government icebreakers & supply vessels en route to/from Antarctic mainland. Never had any professional reason to land there because the Island is Norwegian and there is no British or Australian telecoms infrastructure there to maintain.

Trust that answers your questions in sufficient detail to put you back in your box and throw away the key on this particular thread, Don.

I believe my concerns regarding Antarctic & sub-Antarctic DXpedition safety are now sufficiently out there in the public domain for the 'powers that be' to take notice and take action, so I will not be posting any further comments regarding the matter on eHam.net DX forum. Anyone wanting to ask any further sensible questions is free to contact me at: vk0ld@yahoo.com

73 to all, Alan VK6CQ / VKØLD 

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K1VSK

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Re: VK6CQ calls for 3Y0J DXCC to be invalidated due to no landing permit !
« Reply #71 on: March 05, 2023, 01:13:22 PM »

"There's not many amateur DXers who are also Antarctic professionals out there who are more experienced than me...."

Maybe you should have gone to Bouvet with a radio then.

John K5MO

John: Why on Earth would I want to pay $25,000 to go to Bouvet with a radio when I get paid much more than that to go to various places in the Antarctic & sub-Antarctic on official government funded expeditions?
Before anyone is misled into being impressed by that, since you brought this up:

1.Who pays you “much more than that” to go to an island,
2. What specifically  do they pay you to do once they bring you there, and
3. How many times have you been to Bouvet?

There, There, Don,  I think you need go take one of your Valiums and have a nice lie down! ::) ::)

Guess that’s all you can come up with to avoid answering. Good show!

1) British Antarctic Survey, Australian National Antarctic Research Expeditions, Antarctic Logistics & Expeditions PLC etc.

2) Install, maintain and operate radios and other telecommunications infrastructure (just in case you're a nit-picker, that involves lots of zipping around in Zodiacs etc.)

3) Sailed past Bouvet Island several times on various government icebreakers & supply vessels en route to/from Antarctic mainland. Never had any professional reason to land there because the Island is Norwegian and there is no British or Australian telecoms infrastructure there to maintain.

Trust that answers your questions in sufficient detail to put you back in your box and throw away the key on this particular thread, Don.

I believe my concerns regarding Antarctic & sub-Antarctic DXpedition safety are now sufficiently out there in the public domain for the 'powers that be' to take notice and take action, so I will not be posting any further comments regarding the matter on eHam.net DX forum. Anyone wanting to ask any further sensible questions is free to contact me at: vk0ld@yahoo.com

73 to all, Alan VK6CQ / VKØLD

Got it. I guess I could claim the same experience except  for being paid but then I don’t have any motivation to disturb the pedestal you installed yourself on from which you feign moral superiority to look down on others who do equivalent activity. I wasn’t brought up that way.

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K5MO

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Re: VK6CQ calls for 3Y0J DXCC to be invalidated due to no landing permit !
« Reply #72 on: March 05, 2023, 02:56:44 PM »

I will not be posting any further comments regarding the matter on eHam.net DX forum.
 VKØLD


Thank you for this.
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VK6CQ

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Re: VK6CQ calls for 3Y0J DXCC to be invalidated due to no landing permit !
« Reply #73 on: March 05, 2023, 05:06:05 PM »



Got it. I guess I could claim the same experience except  for being paid but then I don’t have any motivation to disturb the pedestal you installed yourself on from which you feign moral superiority to look down on others who do equivalent activity. I wasn’t brought up that way.

For the record: I don't feel any kind of moral superiority, nor have I set myself up on a pedestal - that's all just a figment of your imagination.  All I did was bring this matter to public attention.  Seems you're the kind of guy who always has to have the last word, so be my guest. 

As for me, I really am outta here - got better things to do.
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KC0W

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Re: VK6CQ calls for 3Y0J DXCC to be invalidated due to no landing permit !
« Reply #74 on: March 05, 2023, 05:34:40 PM »

I will not be posting any further comments regarding the matter on eHam.net DX forum.
73 to all, Alan VK6CQ / VKØLD

 I knew you couldn't do it!!!  :)
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