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KC0W

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Re: XU7GNY - Cambodia
« Reply #15 on: March 07, 2023, 08:48:32 PM »

That is odd, he stopped broadcasting after the 4th when someone on the Cluster kept posting that his License is Expired.
It could just mean that his License Expired on the 3rd and a local got upset hearing him on the 4th.  If that is the case then contacts before the 4th should count.
I am kind of glad I already have this in the Log from back in 2015.

 I'm not aware of ANY licenses the Cambodian Telecom Regulator has renewed since 2020. I keep in contact with an amateur living in Cambodia & he states the same thing. XU7GNY has operated from Cambodia in the past so he would have needed to renew his license for this time around. I'm not saying DL7BO just grabbed his radio & jetted off to XU land.............But.

 

 Yes, the beaches really are this filthy in XU land. I was able to acquire XU7XXX before the Telecom Regulators changed the rules and started issuing sequential callsigns starting with XU7AAA. 

                                                                     Tom KH0/KC0W
 
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Re: XU7GNY - Cambodia
« Reply #16 on: March 07, 2023, 09:02:41 PM »

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Re: XU7GNY - Cambodia
« Reply #17 on: March 07, 2023, 09:05:08 PM »

So it is not looking good for working Cambodia anytime soon  :(.  That is one I still need.  Probably wont get YK or YA anytime soon either.

73 John AF5CC
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Re: XU7GNY - Cambodia
« Reply #18 on: March 07, 2023, 09:16:36 PM »

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LOTW confirmation isn’t equivalent to nor does it guarantee DXCC accreditation. It isn’t a DXCC credit in itself. Time will tell…

Formally true, perhaps, but I have never had an LOTW credit removed that I can remember.  And I have a lot of them now.

The LOTW signup presentation suggests that nonUS operators must include a copy of the operating license or equivalent thing with the application.  Maybe this is short of the documentation required for final approval, but it appears to (at least) be its first cousin.

Whether what was presented is "the real thing" or something merely plausible to approve I leave to others.  But, something roughly plausible at least had to be presented to get an LOTW cert for Cambodia.
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Re: XU7GNY - Cambodia
« Reply #19 on: March 08, 2023, 07:05:03 AM »

The LOTW signup presentation suggests that nonUS operators must include a copy of the operating license or equivalent thing with the application.

If he was formerly licensed and HE did not know he needed to renew it, maybe he submitted his old license which did not show as expired and the LotW desk approved it. OR perhaps he was uploading with an OLD LotW certificate from a former operation and that LotW certificate simply hadn't expired.
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« Reply #20 on: March 08, 2023, 07:47:03 AM »

I'm not aware of ANY licenses the Cambodian Telecom Regulator has renewed since 2020. I keep in contact with an amateur living in Cambodia & he states the same thing. XU7GNY has operated from Cambodia in the past so he would have needed to renew his license for this time around. I'm not saying DL7BO just grabbed his radio & jetted off to XU land.............But.

I knew that call sounded familiar...
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Re: XU7GNY - Cambodia
« Reply #21 on: March 08, 2023, 08:17:50 AM »

I'm not aware of ANY licenses the Cambodian Telecom Regulator has renewed since 2020. I keep in contact with an amateur living in Cambodia & he states the same thing. XU7GNY has operated from Cambodia in the past so he would have needed to renew his license for this time around. I'm not saying DL7BO just grabbed his radio & jetted off to XU land.............But.

I knew that call sounded familiar...


See, Cows can do a beach landing (from another thread).

73 John AF5CC
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« Reply #22 on: March 08, 2023, 09:06:16 AM »

So it is not looking good for working Cambodia anytime soon  :(.  That is one I still need.  Probably wont get YK or YA anytime soon either.

73 John AF5CC

YA was spotted all last night, I didn't hear it but many did.

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Re: XU7GNY - Cambodia
« Reply #23 on: March 08, 2023, 09:15:12 AM »

A real one???
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« Reply #24 on: March 08, 2023, 10:03:11 AM »

YA ham radio activity was all over the place during the occupation. Was easy to work, with QSL managers in the US and Europe. Got 10-160, and they all uploaded to LoTW. Don't know what the situation is now, or if ham radio is even is allowed by the Taliban. They shut down a bunch of broadcast stations. Everyday life had improved there, but that all ended when... Never mind... But if I ever hear them on 6M, I'll give 'em a call.
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Re: XU7GNY - Cambodia
« Reply #25 on: March 08, 2023, 06:37:14 PM »

A real one???

I was wrong, spots were for Pakistan not YA.
My YA contacts were also US servicemen.
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Re: XU7GNY - Cambodia
« Reply #26 on: March 08, 2023, 07:45:03 PM »

I'm not aware of ANY licenses the Cambodian Telecom Regulator has renewed since 2020. I keep in contact with an amateur living in Cambodia & he states the same thing. XU7GNY has operated from Cambodia in the past so he would have needed to renew his license for this time around. I'm not saying DL7BO just grabbed his radio & jetted off to XU land.............But.

I knew that call sounded familiar...


 Thanks for the QSO!!!

 Wow, from all the way back in 2009. A real blast from the past. Sorry for my sloppy QSL card handwriting. I had just returned to the USA & had thousands of cards waiting for me after DXing from Cambodia for over one year. I would fill the cards out in 8 hour marathon sessions before taking a break. I don't think my wrist has been the same since.     

 I operated from Cambodia again in 2017. This is when the photo of the worlds cleanest beach was taken.   :)

 
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« Reply #27 on: March 15, 2023, 07:21:24 PM »

I was in Cambodia(Phnom Phen) in Dec 2022 for tourism. I went to the TRC to apply for a license, to capitalize on my visit there.
In the license paperwork, one needs to specify the radio, the model, serial number, power output, the antenna used, the gain of the antenna etc.
The person at the TRC said that, they can issue a license, but the equipment will not be approved for use. They also said that the equipment will need to be type certified by the authority. It will take $1000 and 2 weeks for the type certification.

Now, there is a separate requirement to be met for an agent, who submits the application for type certification. They will need to be a local business entity. Now, given Amateur radio is not a big business in a third world country like XU, which local business can be enticed to work with us to get this approval through?
Moreover, a lot of equipment related documentation will need to be submitted in the process.
So net net, we need a willing equipment vendor, who is willing to co-operate and we may need to start a go-fund me effort to further the cause to open the doors in XU.

More over, if you learn the history of XU, there is a so so relationship between Thailand and Cambodia. So i am still in doubt, if the recent XU7 operation is valid, esp having roots from Thailand.

But i love Cambodia and will go there again and to tour the southern part the next time. If anyone has the time/will power to crack the code with TRC, please drop me a note :)

Good DX Folks!!
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Krish
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Re: XU7GNY - Cambodia
« Reply #28 on: March 15, 2023, 08:13:19 PM »

There's a disconnect here that I can't account for.

As it happens, I decided to turn in my LOTW credits (approved over night) and my current set of cards.

Between the two applications, I happened to have three XU QSOs on them, all approved.

As noted earlier, these were LOTW approved and sailed right through their process (overnight approval is fast even by LOTW only application standards):

27-Feb-2023 02:12:02   24912.4  FT8   XU7GNY  XU   
27-Feb-2023 02:40:33   28081.2  FT8   XU7GNY  XU   

and also this one on my paper application (the card checker, well-known to me, didn't bat an eye or warn me or do anything but treat it as another card):

21-Mar-2021 00:00:26   18084.0  CW    XU7AKU  XU   

I suppose the card-checked QSO could still be canned when the application reaches Newington, but that hasn't happened in over 30 years of hamming.  I would be very  surprised, at this point, that I will lose any of these credits.  Never had a "claw back" on any credit that got this far.  And, I'm over 2450 on the DXCC Challenge.

These two LOTW ones are now part of my "approved" record.

OTOH, I do respect Tom's knowledge of these things.  So, for now, I have to regard the whole thing as a bit of a mystery.  WFWL, and turn in your stuff is my recommendation.

Here's a DX News article on the recent, just finished operation:

https://dxnews.com/xu7gny/

Here's the DX News piece for XA7AKU:

https://www.dx-world.net/xu7aku-cambodia/

I can't find any indication that these things are regarded as invalid, either by LOTW (where applicable) or by Clublog.

I even dredged up a third operation I worked for a Marathon point.  Here's the DX News entry for that:

https://www.dx-world.net/xu7amg-cambodia/

. . .still shows as "Cambodia" in Clublog.  It was active in April 2020, just after Tom's stated deadline, but maybe in under that wire??

It's definitely a mystery.




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Re: XU7GNY - Cambodia
« Reply #29 on: March 16, 2023, 03:48:23 AM »

YA ham radio activity was all over the place during the occupation. Was easy to work, with QSL managers in the US and Europe. Got 10-160, and they all uploaded to LoTW.... But if I ever hear them on 6M, I'll give 'em a call.

I was really, really lucky: we got a multi-hop Es opening to YA just before Robert T6AA closed down and left the country, so managed to get it on 6m https://www.qsl.net/g0hvq/t6aa-qsl.png
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