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KA3TKZ

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Re: FT1000d or TS690sg...reasons?
« Reply #15 on: March 07, 2023, 02:36:48 AM »

Mr. Golsner,

Try a 1000MP with internal power supply, fantastic radio and not too expensive.  Send me an email and we can talk.


Whitney
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W7CXC

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Re: FT1000d or TS690sg...reasons?
« Reply #16 on: March 07, 2023, 05:18:07 PM »

Thanks to all for the comments. Have decided on the ft1000d. They both are "real radios" but my thinking is that like a classic car if I do not like it can turn around and resell it for the same price and just loose the shipping
# waterfall. Am blessed with a 0.5 or so noise level here in SW Montana and can hear and work stations that do not even show up on the waterfall display of the main rig. It is a nice feature but if that was all that was counted on to find contacts there would be some missed. So that is a non issue.

# There is something to be said for the look and feel of a classic radio. No, the looks and feel do not make contacts but it says volumes about the overall pleasure of operating. Some of the modern rigs come across as plastic wonders in small cheap enclosures. Yes they work well and have oodles of features but just not for me. Digital is not even on my radar.

# "Neither. When so many cheap new transceivers with so much more capability are readily available. " Yes I asked for opinions and this one is valid. This ham does not want to operate with a "Yugo" even if it has a touch screen. HiHi

# The audio quality is a consideration but both are acceptable from what I have read with the Kenwood having the edge. They are, after all, "communications" radios not Fisher and Macintosh tube type hi Fi's. My ts450s ( that i wish had been kept) had good audio. Lets face it 2.4 or 2.7 Kc is kind of limiting.

#The 200 watts is nice and will reduce the need to power up the linear on many occasions.

@ Tommy, K6YE. Do you have plans for your FT1000d?

Thanks again to all those who chimed in. 73's and good DX. David
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VK3TEX

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Re: FT1000d or TS690sg...reasons?
« Reply #17 on: March 08, 2023, 03:38:27 PM »

Hi David,
I have been following this thread and I too bought an FT 1000 last year and what a grand old radio... This was the model with a steel front panel'
it's built like a tank and i have no regrets buying it. Spent lots of money to spec it up to 1000D but the end result was definitely worth it.
Such smooth communications audio on SSB and a cracker on CW with its brilliant crystal filters... 200 watts makes a big difference don't let anyone tell
you otherwise....

Just a real pleasure to use, I have more modern gear but find myself using the 1000D more often as its got no menus and so easy to use...

Make sure you have a good audio setup to drive the rig to get the best modulation out of it. I use their mic from back in the day the MD 1B8 I think,
with it going into the W2IHY audio gear to get the best results and can tailor the audio with the graphic equaliser on it.

Good luck David, we have to use these old battleship radios from the past as they will not be around forever, they were made in a time when things were made to last... Not like todays plastic junk...

Check my QRZ page for an interesting story on my FT1000D

Cheers, Les VK3TEX.
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W7CXC

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Re: FT1000d or TS690sg...reasons?
« Reply #18 on: March 08, 2023, 05:57:02 PM »

Les:

Will check out the story about your 1000. My plan is to use an EV664 mic that has been languishing in its box for years. Back in the day that was the go to mic for SSB after the D104 I guess. I like nice sounding audio but, as indicated, it is a communications radio after all.

Hope to find a "D" that is all optioned out, will see. From what I gather the 590SG is a fine radio as well and would likely be the wiser choice but what the heck. I can help preserve a classic and enjoy  a high quality built to last rig. I only dabble in contests on SSB and am in the process of relearning to copy CW.
To think I was up to about 20 wpm at one time after obtaining the General in the mid 50's. Not now for sure. Am thinking somewhere around a thousand give or take for a really good 1000d. Is that about correct?

I figured out where the TS690 in my question came from. The manual for my TS450sat, sob sob i sold it, also covered the 690 as the only difference was that it had 6m. That 450 was a good radio and served me well.

Tke care and 73's. David
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G4AON

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Re: FT1000d or TS690sg...reasons?
« Reply #19 on: March 09, 2023, 03:07:42 AM »

Those planning to use an FT1000 on CW may like to modify it to stop the annoying key clicks they produce.

See https://w8ji.com/keyclicks_1000D.htm

The modification looks pretty easy...

73 Dave
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ZS5WC

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« Reply #20 on: March 09, 2023, 04:57:37 AM »

 ::)Judging by some of the responses it seems we as a group have become an use and throw away society.
New is better..More Bling!--like automobiles , they are making the engines smaller and alternators bigger to drive all the bling--that is what sells.
Never mind the real world performance.
To me Ham Radio is about keeping them oldies going, more knobs the better.
How much better is a newer rig compared to the old legacy rigs, On paper a lot apparently.
How good is a new rig vs. old side by side..? To me older sounds better..IF derived AGC, analogue noise blanker , pleasant audio, no audio pop, very little hiss, S meters that work like they should below S9.
None of that S meter on zero with loud station in the speaker. (S meters now have 20dB+ offset below S9)
Old rigs weigh a lot, for one reason, they are crammed with state of the art tech available at the time they were produced.
Analogue filters in RF and IF stages, lots of real world radio parts.
Repairs are possible still, just revamped an ft-2000.
There is a very real reason SDRs are punted to be so great-and for the most, I guess they are--simply it is cost.
Open it up, and you will wonder where all the parts have gone. You don't need many parts-all gets done in the A/D converter and DSP. If that blows your hair back that is fine, but big old rigs to me just sound Better!..
If you have to put anti slip pads on the feet of a rig , not to move around on the desk when you push a button, you can keep it!..
To me the smooth AM type sound you get from an older rig is just perfect.

As a last comment, The FT-1000d is great workhorse rig , same as most other rigs Yeasu have produced. I had one and loved it.
Still have the FT-2000, and 1000MP.

73 de William
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VK3TEX

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Re: FT1000d or TS690sg...reasons?
« Reply #21 on: March 09, 2023, 03:33:35 PM »

Hi David and William
I paid probably more than I should have for the FT 1000 but they don't come up for sale that often, so they are not that easy to get hold of here in
VK.... You should pay what you are comfortable with David, your prices in the US should be more competitive than ours here in VK...

William, I agree with everything you have said 100%... Could not have said it any better... The other good thing about the old rigs is they are mostly
repairable if something goes bad.

Yes the 1000D is very heavy so make sure you have someone with a good back to move it in for you :)

Cheers, Les VK3TEX   
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KX2T

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Re: FT1000d or TS690sg...reasons?
« Reply #22 on: March 11, 2023, 01:29:53 PM »

eat your Wheaties before lifting the FT1000D cause its an easy 50 pounds!
 
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W7CXC

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Re: FT1000d or TS690sg...reasons?
« Reply #23 on: March 12, 2023, 11:23:53 AM »

Like lifting the HQ140x :)
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ZS5WC

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Re: FT1000d or TS690sg...reasons?
« Reply #24 on: March 12, 2023, 11:29:18 PM »

 ;D Inside the FT-1000d lurks a massive mains transformer, hence the weight..
Yes, the hams from early days must have been strong and able, try carrying around an Hallicrafters SX28!.
I have one and always dread lifting that up onto a shelf.

I tried to sneak my SX28 down the passage , into the shack , only to meet the wife half way , she could not pass, and I was so flustered , could not think of any valid excuse!..
I think the heavy breathing alerted the missus about my sneaky actions.
73 de William
ZS4L / ZS5WC
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