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W0CKI

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Re: Illegal Russian callsigns for occupied Ukraine
« Reply #15 on: March 14, 2023, 09:01:32 AM »

John, at least you don't have to find space for QSL cards. LOL.
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WB8VLC

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Re: Illegal Russian callsigns for occupied Ukraine
« Reply #16 on: March 14, 2023, 09:04:19 AM »

I'm not working anymore Oregon or California stations since they cancelled salmon Fishing, there!
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ON6KE

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Re: Illegal Russian callsigns for occupied Ukraine
« Reply #17 on: March 14, 2023, 09:59:12 AM »

I'm not working anymore Oregon or California stations since they cancelled salmon Fishing, there!

HA !!   :)
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KC0W

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Re: Illegal Russian callsigns for occupied Ukraine
« Reply #18 on: March 14, 2023, 10:43:04 AM »

I'm not working anything Russian since February last year, and that includes expeditions.

 I assume you don't work German stations either. After all, over 112,000 of your countryman were killed by them in WWII.

                                                                       Tom KH0/KC0W

Countrymen (plural)

 Good job deflecting the question............So do you work German amateurs?

 

 
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KD6KVL

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Re: Illegal Russian callsigns for occupied Ukraine
« Reply #19 on: March 14, 2023, 10:56:47 AM »

Could you imagine if countries wouldn't work the USA because of things our president did?  Depending on who you believe for news, our elections could be determined by slightly over half the country.  The other half had bearing on the decision, or not enough at least.  I doubt every Russian living in these places has much choice to move away.  Who wants to live is a war zone anyways?
My "opinion" is its putting politics into radio where it does not belong.  Who am I to tell someone who to work or not though.
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Frank KG6N

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Re: Illegal Russian callsigns for occupied Ukraine
« Reply #20 on: March 14, 2023, 10:58:34 AM »

As an amateur, I would not want to key up a transmitter in any of these areas.  There is still a "well its NOT one of ours..." in the area.  It could easily attract unwanted attention!
Likewise, remote keying of repeaters is discouraged.  Repeaters usually share tower facilities and become a target.

-Mike.
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KD6VXI

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Re: Illegal Russian callsigns for occupied Ukraine
« Reply #21 on: March 14, 2023, 11:03:51 AM »

According to the list of SRR branches list https://srr.ru/1680-2/ there is no Lugansk or other SRR branch on the annexed Ukrainian territories except Crimea and Sevastopol whose DXCC status was defined in 2014. So those new callsigns are the same junk as D0/D1. My JTDX filters are cutting them efficiently Will follow the news, UARL was informed for official response.

Can you share those?

I'm at the point where I'm about to filter anything Russia.

--Shane
WP2ASS / ex KD6VXI
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Re: Illegal Russian callsigns for occupied Ukraine
« Reply #22 on: March 14, 2023, 12:54:14 PM »

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Could you imagine if countries wouldn't work the USA because of things our president did?

What makes you think that hasn't happened?

It's a big world out there and people make all kinds of decisions.

In any case, whether you work Russians or not right now, time to acknowledge this situation is a little different.

This is:

1.  Naked and unjustified aggression.  Putin's rationale's are patently dishonest ("Nazis"?  Really?)
2.  Putin working to eradicate and erase Ukraine's culture.  That's right up there with the Taliban.  This isn't quite genocide, but it is its first cousin.  If you don't know what I'm talking about, read up on it.  It is, to put it mildly, not nice.  It is very totalitarian.
3.  An attempt to reestablish the Soviet Empire ('cause that's what the Warsaw pact really was).  Nobody wants it but Putin and his fans.  Nobody.  This is 19th century era political thinking in a nuclear age.  Putin does not hide that this is his dream.  Ukraine would be but the first of many if he gets his way here.
4.  Threatening to spill over into a wider war.  Just today, a Russian warplane ran into an American drone.  Wars have been started over less.

Wars in Europe are a little more equal than wars other places.  They have a way of dragging us in whether we want to be dragged in or not.

We tried to stay out of Kosovo.  We didn't.  We even tried to stay out of WW II.  Well, that lasted two years.  We tried to stay out of WW I also.  That lasted maybe three or four.

What's going on here, whatever your politics, is dangerous as all get out.

My own position earlier on was to withhold working them because I thought Putin was very successful in his propaganda and the Russian people were clueless.  I took what I said was a faint hope of piercing that veil. 

Well, a lot of criticism of the war has crept in, so I don't mind working a few Russians here and there.  Now they know, or could easily know, something like the truth.  So, it's a lot like the cold war and I did work Russians during the Cold War, after all.

But, I'm not particularly keen on working them, either. 
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K0UA

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Re: Illegal Russian callsigns for occupied Ukraine
« Reply #23 on: March 14, 2023, 01:07:57 PM »

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Could you imagine if countries wouldn't work the USA because of things our president did?

What makes you think that hasn't happened?

It's a big world out there and people make all kinds of decisions.

In any case, whether you work Russians or not right now, time to acknowledge this situation is a little different.

This is:

1.  Naked and unjustified aggression.  Putin's rationale's are patently dishonest ("Nazis"?  Really?)
2.  Putin working to eradicate and erase Ukraine's culture.  That's right up there with the Taliban.  This isn't quite genocide, but it is its first cousin.  If you don't know what I'm talking about, read up on it.  It is, to put it mildly, not nice.  It is very totalitarian.
3.  An attempt to reestablish the Soviet Empire ('cause that's what the Warsaw pact really was).  Nobody wants it but Putin and his fans.  Nobody.  This is 19th century era political thinking in a nuclear age.  Putin does not hide that this is his dream.  Ukraine would be but the first of many if he gets his way here.
4.  Threatening to spill over into a wider war.  Just today, a Russian warplane ran into an American drone.  Wars have been started over less.

Wars in Europe are a little more equal than wars other places.  They have a way of dragging us in whether we want to be dragged in or not.

We tried to stay out of Kosovo.  We didn't.  We even tried to stay out of WW II.  Well, that lasted two years.  We tried to stay out of WW I also.  That lasted maybe three or four.

What's going on here, whatever your politics, is dangerous as all get out.

My own position earlier on was to withhold working them because I thought Putin was very successful in his propaganda and the Russian people were clueless.  I took what I said was a faint hope of piercing that veil. 

Well, a lot of criticism of the war has crept in, so I don't mind working a few Russians here and there.  Now they know, or could easily know, something like the truth.  So, it's a lot like the cold war and I did work Russians during the Cold War, after all.

But, I'm not particularly keen on working them, either.

Yes, to all of the above. and I am not at all keen on working Russians that are illegally occupying the territory of Ukraine .
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KD6KVL

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Re: Illegal Russian callsigns for occupied Ukraine
« Reply #24 on: March 14, 2023, 01:22:29 PM »

Jesus man, you just pound out pages of bs to everything on here, where do you find the time?  Kinda trollish.....

I don't discuss politics on the radio.  I work whoever calls me.  If they don't call me because of something Trump or Biden does or did, I'd never know.  Petty sh!t for hams to punitize people living somewhere because some crazy dictator did stuff.  Beyond that, we know what the media wants us to, and we think we are "informed" based on that.  I just stay out of all that mess and play radio.  Comrade.
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Frank KG6N

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Re: Illegal Russian callsigns for occupied Ukraine
« Reply #25 on: March 14, 2023, 02:15:49 PM »

Jesus man, you just pound out pages of bs to everything on here, where do you find the time?  Kinda trollish.....


You just figured that out?  He has been arguing over trivial crap for years.  Block him, ignore him, or join his "debates".
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KD6KVL

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Re: Illegal Russian callsigns for occupied Ukraine
« Reply #26 on: March 14, 2023, 02:18:33 PM »

I've been away for a while....Golden advice, I'll block him.  2 pages of rhetoric on every post is qualification for troll of the year award!
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Frank KG6N

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Re: Illegal Russian callsigns for occupied Ukraine
« Reply #27 on: March 14, 2023, 03:35:21 PM »

You might as well join the debate. It's easier to argue with him than the XYL !

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Re: Illegal Russian callsigns for occupied Ukraine
« Reply #28 on: March 14, 2023, 03:51:46 PM »

I'll work whoever I want to work.  But if you are (on either side) in the war zone, I would suggest that transmitting might make you a target. Sometimes combatants have this "Shoot first, worry later" thing...


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Re: Illegal Russian callsigns for occupied Ukraine
« Reply #29 on: March 14, 2023, 04:38:31 PM »

Everyone could just not use HF if there is a problem with all these other countries  ;D ;D

This question came up on a Facebook page and it was my knowledge that if they -
1. Have a valid callsign from their country that they reside in
2. Their country doesn't have a ban on Ham communications from other countries
3. The ITU doesn't ban us from communicating with them

then why not?

If Hams are going to have political opinions about other countries and refuse to communicate with them, then that is on them and they should keep their political opinion to themselves and out of Ham Radio. Hams that bring politics into the hobby when it comes to who you talk to or what sort of radio you purchase should have their licenses cancelled and be banned from Ham Radio. Ya want to talk about turning people off to the hobby? There is one of a hundred different ways, especially when you have someone who knows nothing about radio and is afraid to disobey the rules for fear of being thrown in prison. Personally I will outright refuse to talk to anyone who throws politics into the discussion when it comes to how I operate radio or what sort of radio I operate. Ham Radio crosses borders regardless of race or religion or political opinion. Lets keep it that way.

When in doubt, follow the rules, NOT the politics or opinions.
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