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RE: Trying to find my dad's old C.B. callsign
« Reply #30 on: March 26, 2018, 08:23:00 PM »

I had KAAR5167 around 1975.  Yes, 8 characters.  Then got a real license, a tech WA2ISE (later became a tech plus, and in 2000 upgraded to extra.  Kept WA2ISE. 
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RE: Trying to find my dad's old C.B. callsign
« Reply #31 on: March 28, 2018, 06:56:58 PM »

Did the FCC ULS system even exist back in those days?? ??? ???  I remember some locals who had CB calls. Very similar to the business and government call signs.  KMAxxxx and similar.

I'd really doubt that the FCC kept any of those old records, since CB licensing is archaic as high button shoes. But, you can always ask them and find out for sure.

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K5WLR

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RE: Trying to find my dad's old C.B. callsign
« Reply #32 on: March 28, 2018, 07:14:04 PM »

My CB license (KDT-9645) was originally issued in 1970 and renewed in 1975. When it expired in 1980, the FCC had stopped issuing and renewing CB licenses.

The original application and the renewal were mailed-in papework; no ULS back then.

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RE: Trying to find my dad's old C.B. callsign
« Reply #33 on: April 01, 2018, 04:22:03 PM »

This is one forum topic that I have not heard anyone really get nasty or have some type of negative know it all crap to say.  And it's about CB radio Call signs I love it.  My Dad and Grampa had legit calls, they made wood engraved plaques of them but I don't have those now. Wish I did.  Our neighbor slim pickins had a Moonraker 4 and of course everyone had the D-104.  Good times. 
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RE: Trying to find my dad's old C.B. callsign
« Reply #34 on: April 01, 2018, 07:44:43 PM »

HI...My name is Brian...and I used CB's in the 1970's.

The groups says...

Hello, Brian.
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Whew...Confession is good for the soul.

My fcc Cb call sign was kajg7817.
I was part of a great little group in Houston on channel 11.
Made me love radio.

k5nok
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RE: Trying to find my dad's old C.B. callsign
« Reply #35 on: April 02, 2018, 02:37:23 AM »

Hello,
I don't know if I will catch grief over asking for this in an amateur radio forum, but I am curious to find out what my dad's old C.B. callsign was when he was licensed back in the 70's.  I don't know if there would even be an online database for this, since the FCC did away with C.B. licensing almost 30 years ago, and there were millions of licesed C.B. users back then.  If anyone out there could point me in a direction where I might be able to found out this information, please send me an e-mail.  It was growing up around my dad's c.b. radio that got me interested in becoming a ham.  Thanks!

73,
Mike KU4UV
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Some CBers used to have QSL cards made with their calls on it, others had QSL cards with just their handle. Take a look through some of his stuff to see if he had a QSL made.

Try to locate some of his neighbors or former neighbors that moved out of state to see if they know.

See if he wrote it down somewhere in in his belongings or personal notes...

Good Luck
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RE: Trying to find my dad's old C.B. callsign
« Reply #36 on: June 10, 2018, 08:15:42 PM »

Put a ad in the paper where your dad lived, there should be someone that may remember. Your problem is 95% of CB'ers never used there call.
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W4KVW

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RE: Trying to find my dad's old C.B. callsign
« Reply #37 on: June 11, 2018, 04:33:36 PM »

All of the old records were destroyed several years ago by a fire at the FCC offices.I'm sure it was an accident but the records went Up in Smoke & gone forever.

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RE: Trying to find my dad's old C.B. callsign
« Reply #38 on: June 11, 2018, 09:33:35 PM »

I believe that some of the old CB and electronics magazines listed newly issued CB licenses.  You may want to check  www.AmericanRadioHistory.com  or even  www.CBradioMagazine.com   
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W7NRM

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RE: Trying to find my dad's old C.B. callsign
« Reply #39 on: March 27, 2019, 11:56:18 AM »

You're not apt to find any government records from before the mid-'80s accessible via the 'Net.  Things don't start to get reliable until the mid-'90s.  (There are exceptions where hard copies have been converted over to databases.)

A few local CB clubs bothered to get state non-profit charters.  If you can find any of those records, Articles of Incorporation, meeting minutes, etc., they may include call signs.  Old REACT chapters might have that kind of stuff if he was involved.

I'd love to get my old CB callsign to use on GMRS but that's not apt to happen any time soon.
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RE: Trying to find my dad's old C.B. callsign
« Reply #40 on: March 27, 2019, 01:41:03 PM »

I can find records of fires at other federal offices, but I can't find any record of a fire at the FCC offices. I'm pretty sure that the fire thing is a myth.

You probably won't find any records before 1998. That is when the FCC implemented the Universal Licensing System (ULS). They didn't find it necessary to include much of the old stale data. What would be the point of keeping a list of CB call signs, years after it was no longer required to get a license? Few CB operators ever used their call sign anyway. Personally, I never bothered to get one, but then, I did very little on 11 meters.

I upgraded to Extra in 1999. But my FCC records only shows that, at one time, had an Advanced class license. There is no indication that I only had that license for 2 weeks. No records at all for my Novice, Technician, and General class licenses. I have been licensed since 1965 and everything prior to my upgrade to Extra is gone. But that's OK. That is the only one that really matters.

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RE: Trying to find my dad's old C.B. callsign
« Reply #41 on: March 27, 2019, 07:52:03 PM »

I can find records of fires at other federal offices, but I can't find any record of a fire at the FCC offices. I'm pretty sure that the fire thing is a myth.

Fire may be a myth, but it's a fact that certain archived FCC records were destroyed by water in the 1970s. My speculation is that it was Hurricane Agnes in 1972, and the records that were destroyed would have been archives (not current records) that were in the basement at the time. (At one time, FCC said that records of licensed issued prior to the mid-60s are no longer available. That date is consistent with Agnes.) If you look at the rainfall totals for that storm you'll find it peaked around 15" in an area that looks very close to Gettysburg.

You probably won't find any records before 1998. That is when the FCC implemented the Universal Licensing System (ULS). They didn't find it necessary to include much of the old stale data. What would be the point of keeping a list of CB call signs, years after it was no longer required to get a license? Few CB operators ever used their call sign anyway. Personally, I never bothered to get one, but then, I did very little on 11 meters.

Yes, ULS came into being in 1998, and the only records entered in at that time were the then-current licenses. By then, CB was an unlicensed service, so I'm sure that nothing would have been entered. But it's possible that records from the 1970s might still exist in microfiche--not searchable online, but accessible by the FCC records contractor. Someone could submit a FOIA request to check that out.

And the fact that FCC was able (prior to 1976) to issue unique callsigns indicates that there MUST have been license records at that time.
 
I upgraded to Extra in 1999. But my FCC records only shows that, at one time, had an Advanced class license. There is no indication that I only had that license for 2 weeks. No records at all for my Novice, Technician, and General class licenses. I have been licensed since 1965 and everything prior to my upgrade to Extra is gone. But that's OK. That is the only one that really matters.

As I said above, records prior to 1967 or 1968 are not available, but that's not true for records from the 1970s. Although they aren't in the ULS, they are still on microfiche. I was able to get a copy of the database entry showing my original Novice license date from 1976 by submitting a FOIA request.
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RE: Trying to find my dad's old C.B. callsign
« Reply #42 on: March 28, 2019, 07:01:23 AM »

I can find records of fires at other federal offices, but I can't find any record of a fire at the FCC offices. I'm pretty sure that the fire thing is a myth.

Fire may be a myth, but it's a fact that certain archived FCC records were destroyed by water in the 1970s. My speculation is that it was Hurricane Agnes in 1972, and the records that were destroyed would have been archives (not current records) that were in the basement at the time. (At one time, FCC said that records of licensed issued prior to the mid-60s are no longer available. That date is consistent with Agnes.) If you look at the rainfall totals for that storm you'll find it peaked around 15" in an area that looks very close to Gettysburg.

I did not say that records were not destroyed. I only said that the fire idea is a myth and can't be substantiated. And, while the hurricane idea somewhat matches up, it is also speculation. You can probably come up with a dozen different scenarios, that closely fit the dates and times.

Usually, when there is a disaster that destroyed records, or causes wire services to be interrupted, the FCC requests more money. You can find several "Orders" on-line that were generated to help with recovery. And many of them are due to hurricanes.

I am sure records were destroyed, either by accident or on purpose. Which way, really doesn't matter.

And the fact that FCC was able (prior to 1976) to issue unique callsigns indicates that there MUST have been license records at that time.

I never said that the FCC didn't have records. Of course there were records. But when they created the ULS, how far back did they need to go?

I am sure that some of those old records still exist, in one form or another. You can access some of the old callbooks at Amateur Radio Call Books. But the archive is incomplete. Most of the Call books available only have listings for calls with a "zero". But they may be updated in the future.
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RE: Trying to find my dad's old C.B. callsign
« Reply #43 on: March 28, 2019, 04:58:01 PM »

First time I keyed a mic, it was under my dad's CB call.  I still remember calling "Break, this is KAST9914, anyone got their ears on?"
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RE: Trying to find my dad's old C.B. callsign
« Reply #44 on: March 29, 2019, 04:04:48 AM »

Wow, hard to believe I posted this question almost 11 years ago and it's still getting responses.  I never was able to find my dad's old C.B. callsign.  I know he knew what it was at one time, because I remember him telling me what it was.  He sold the C.B. he had in the car when I was a kid in the late 70's a long time ago.  I have dabbled in C.B. when I was younger, but then I got interested in scanners, shortwave and amateur radio.  I finally got my technician license in 1992 when I started my senior year of high school.  I didn't upgrade until 1998, a few months after college graduation, new job, and new apartment living.  I may still try to find my dad's callsign through a FOIA request at some time if curiosity gets the better of me.  It shouldn't be that difficult to find, I just don't wan't to spend a lot of money on an FOIA request.  Thanks guys!

73,
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