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KM1H

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RE: Selling "airtime" on ham radio
« Reply #135 on: July 31, 2019, 09:09:35 AM »

I knew a teenaged novice that attained DXCC on 15 meters in 1958-59. His dad had a nice rig and a beam on top of the house.

Currently known as W4ZV, a good friend for decades. He made DXCC as KN4RID

I made it to about 93 DXCC in 1955-6 as a Novice in the NYC-LI area with a Viking Adventurer, HQ-129X and a homebrew 3 el yagi made from a free and damaged 2 el 20M Gotham. Low cost budget station all the way.

Carl
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KM1H

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RE: Selling "airtime" on ham radio
« Reply #136 on: July 31, 2019, 09:12:21 AM »

Hi James (KX2T):

I did not realize this was actually a old thread from last year that someone replied to and revived.  In fact, I've not hear crusty Carl on here since January.  Hmmmm.


Hmmm what? I got better things to do than cruise every forum every day...IOW I got a real life.
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KX2T

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RE: Selling "airtime" on ham radio
« Reply #137 on: August 28, 2019, 09:37:15 AM »

Hi Brian those towers and antennas are in my past, it was kind of like having a 7 second AA fuel dragster for those year and to be honest it was almost all for contesting with a close group of ham buddies, hell I really never used my call. We mostly used one of my buddies calls, I really didn't want the QSLing  and cared less about DXCC cause I gave up the chest beating when I was almost joining the LIDX group but found way too many guys cheated in how they got a rare card and never made the QSO so I gave up on the Honor Roll cause what I found out there were very few who really honored that award, each to his own.
When contesting it was fun getting the group together and having a weekend of fun plus we did good especially from a 1/3rd acre plot and CC&R's but as time went on the township changed there regs on antenna restrictions from 50'(notice both towers were crank ups)to nothing unless you had deep pockets and were layered up. One of my friends spent $15K in the town of Islip and still NO PERMITS so I had seen the writing on the wall and started to down size allot also the adult nursing home was being built behind me which was 3- plus acres of woods were I had my beverages on, heck when they broke ground I had many beverages in my back yard cause I knew what was to come. I talked with a ham who was a lawyer a few weeks back and he told me that I should have had permits on those towers back then but what he didn't realize is when I first installed them they were fine and both lowered just below 50' but the town changed the code after 10 years and even if you had a permit they required a new one, there was no BS about grandfathering it in.
Anyway back to the selling air time and the guy in one land that makes such a big stink plus brags about the JA's he worked, wow he is just like Carl, hell when I was a novice in high school they nicked name me the JA kid only cause my parents had a home on a hill in Port Jefferson and the land slopped off real fast to the north so my HB 3 element 15 meter beam at 30ft on there roof looked like it was 60-70 ft with the terrain slopping off so JA propagation was fantastic back in 1968/69.
As they say its all good and all fun and today someone living in a condo or a HOA can rent the time on a big super station and have some fun for a few moments in there life plus they don't have to worry about the rest that is involved with big antennas and a better DX qth. As a matter of fact there is another company coming to that market place and they already have a group of super stations lined up so it must be worth it cause it look like the newbies on the block are dumping a half mil into this, I wish them luck and to N1CX please get a life  cause life is to short for sitting here on these forum with your bitch fest.
I think because the bands and propagation are soo poor way to many go to these forums to release there angers and frustrations.
To Jim N2EY, I too go by James or Jim and like yourself prefer either of these names but Jimmy is a name you call your son while he is small and once he becomes a man that changes. So I agree maybe you should call Carl dear or sweety, maybe honey, personally I would chose PITA!
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N1CX

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RE: Selling "airtime" on ham radio
« Reply #138 on: October 06, 2019, 07:03:41 AM »

Nice personal attack. Keep it on topic and grow up. I never bragged about anything.
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K7AAT

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RE: Selling "airtime" on ham radio
« Reply #139 on: October 13, 2019, 05:46:23 PM »


This entire discourse has been a gross waste of bandwidth!  It's not illegal to sell amateur radio equipment, and it is not illegal to rent it, either.  That's it in a nut shell.
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KB8VUL

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Re: Selling "airtime" on ham radio
« Reply #140 on: November 30, 2019, 10:05:12 PM »

Why is this such a big deal?
Are you jealous that you are broke and guys with NO RADIO are operating on stations that are contest class installations?
Is it a their tower is bigger than your tower kind of thing??? Guess what, my tower is 240 foot tall and 40 feet wide at the base... so MY tower is bigger than your tower AND their towers as well.  So what?  Are you jealous? 

Here's the short version y'all.  This keeps guys on HF that are otherwise restricted via wife, HOA or lack of funds to operate a real station that they would not otherwise be able to EVER have access to.  And I believe that it's also another part of your jealously.  No one is gonna PAY you to operate your mediocre radio install.  So you whine and complain on here how they shouldn't be able to do it because YOU can't. 

Instead of whining, go mortgage the house and find a site.  Then get to work turning it into something special.  But be prepared.  You will have taxes, electric (for the obstruction lighting) monitoring, Internet (for logging) Some level of sewer and water if it's a business.  And a few other things totalling up to around 300 to 400 a month to keep it running and the FAA off your back with a 4K bucka day fine for the obstruction lighting not being on.  We dropped 48K on the tower and have spent at least that so far getting it together and we ain't done yet.  Which leads me the my next WTF questioning,,,, of tower access.  And the drive of hams to want free tower space.  There is NO FREE space... there never was.  Someone was ALWAYS paying for it.  Pay your own way and quit being cheap.
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N9LCD

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Re: Selling "airtime" on ham radio
« Reply #141 on: December 01, 2019, 10:05:14 AM »

So, who's selling air time on HF ham radio?

I'm interested in buying.  It's the ONLY way I'll get on HF without investing in something that may npt pan out.

N9LCD
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K7JQ

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Re: Selling "airtime" on ham radio
« Reply #142 on: December 08, 2019, 05:29:07 AM »

So, who's selling air time on HF ham radio?

I'm interested in buying.  It's the ONLY way I'll get on HF without investing in something that may npt pan out.

N9LCD

Go to remotehamradio.com. It'll tell you all you need to know, plus pricing.
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KB8VUL

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Re: Selling "airtime" on ham radio
« Reply #143 on: January 17, 2021, 06:08:57 PM »

I read some of this... But not near all of it.
Here's my cent and a half.

If Joe Blow comes to me and asks ME to pass some traffic for him on a traffic net I can't be paid for that effort.  It's clearly against the rules.
It's being done by me under my call sign.  The owner of the equipment is not relevant.  It could be his gear, or my gear.  If I am the one on the microphone I can't get paid for doing it. 

Since the rental radios are being remotely operated by the person PAYING to operate them, and not the owner operating them... I am not sure there is a problem here.  To be honest.   I am spoiled.  I have this. 

But not everyone (actually hardly no one) does.  Mind you I have zero intention of renting remote access. But, there are a ton of guys and gals out there that are operating from a dipole in their attic due to HOA restrictions.  And for someone to provide them with the ability to get on and actually run a first class station with all the bells and whistles, I think it's great. I think it's good for the hobby. I think it may get guys that have NO HF a taste of it and maybe they will invest in a small HF setup.  And you are really communicating across the pond with this.  I can't tell you the number of times I have heard guys talking about making a contact with Europe and I ask them what band... their replies of UHF on their HOTSPOT makes me cringe every time I hear it.  They talked on the radio waves 6 feet.  And they somehow believe they talked to Great Britain.  They did talk to someone in Europe, I  give them that,,, but it was the Internet that got them there.  And if that's OK why not this?
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